Meteora (20th Anniversary Edition) | Out Now!

[martinez]

2 hours ago, linkindan said:

I was happier without the 100gecs OSC remix

 

And 8 hours ago I was happier without the whoever-the-fuck remix of Lost

 

Just ingonre the song and you will be happy again. There's no any reason to ackt like that.

[Coizu]

3 hours ago, linkindan said:

I was happier without the 100gecs OSC remix

 

And 8 hours ago I was happier without the whoever-the-fuck remix of Lost

Who hurt you? Is anyone forcing you to listen to those tracks?

[Soeffingnaive92]

https://www.billboard.com/music/chart-beat/linkin-park-meteora-returns-billboard-album-chart-1235312270/

[LPLStaff]

On 4/20/2023 at 6:22 AM, martinez said:

 

iTunes.

 

I actually haven't compare it yet if Don't Stay (Live In Texas) is the original CD/DVD one or LPU version. Someone says different things at some point there.

 

Really love that Meteora20 blue logo. I whish I could be there.

 

It's neither. It's a third edit of it.

[bloodbath]

On 4/28/2023 at 2:52 AM, LPLStaff said:

 

It's neither. It's a third edit of it.

Any thoughts about creating another version? Why could that be?

[martinez]

On 4/12/2023 at 6:59 PM, LPLStaff said:

Would be nice to have a vinyl rip of Nottingham 2003 somehow, since the track splits are a little off in the release:
- Rob cymbal taps to start the song are cut from the Hit the Floor track

- Krwlng intro to Crawling is cut from the Crawling track

- In the End intro sample is cut from the In the End track
- Rob cymbal taps to start the song are cut from the One Step Closer track
 

A little bothersome, not too much, but would be nice to have a vinyl rip to track it properly.

 

Edit: Check the start of From the Inside, looks like maybe one cymbal tap from that is cut out and is on the track prior?

 

What about LIT M20 version? it seems some of the tracks needs to be fixed too:

 

Don't Stay - the ending contains a small portion of the SIB intro

Numb - the ending contains extended intro to Crawling

Crawling - the ending contains small portion of the ITE intro

 

I can fix those 3 if you want.

[JZLP-Benningstrong]

Just heard again the Lost demo man I still think that the 'Thoughts that take away my pride' it's fucking GREAT and better than the final bridge.

 

That vocal it's insanely beautiful and epic.

 

Can't believe that we didn't got Healing Foot with the actual live drums, Rob took the song to another level with his drumming.

 

Now it seems very impossible to get those tracks since the band it's trying so hard to move away from the past and being recognized as an active band not as the CB nostalgia tour, their strategy it's working they are so freaking successful.

[bloodbath]

2 hours ago, JZLP-Benningstrong said:

Just heard again the Lost demo man I still think that the 'Thoughts that take away my pride' it's fucking GREAT and better than the final bridge.

 

That vocal it's insanely beautiful and epic.

 

Can't believe that we didn't got Healing Foot with the actual live drums, Rob took the song to another level with his drumming.

 

Now it seems very impossible to get those tracks since the band it's trying so hard to move away from the past and being recognized as an active band not as the CB nostalgia tour, their strategy it's working they are so freaking successful.

Even if they would keep the hiatus, the boxsets for me serves as a sort of "last train", what they leave behind in this box set, will be left behind forever. Don't expect a HT30, Meteora 30... If they cut something, they must have their reasons.

 

I would love to have the lastest Part of Me demo on HT20, but if they didn't included back then...

[wslwins]

3 hours ago, JZLP-Benningstrong said:

Just heard again the Lost demo man I still think that the 'Thoughts that take away my pride' it's fucking GREAT and better than the final bridge.

 

That vocal it's insanely beautiful and epic.

 

Can't believe that we didn't got Healing Foot with the actual live drums, Rob took the song to another level with his drumming.

 

Now it seems very impossible to get those tracks since the band it's trying so hard to move away from the past and being recognized as an active band not as the CB nostalgia tour, their strategy it's working they are so freaking successful.

same, Thoughts that take away my pride is so much better, hopefully is on a old session or hardrive

never noticed that the drums from Healing Foot aren't live drums

 

[wslwins]

39 minutes ago, bloodbath said:

Even if they would keep the hiatus, the boxsets for me serves as a sort of "last train", what they leave behind in this box set, will be left behind forever. Don't expect a HT30, Meteora 30... If they cut something, they must have their reasons.

 

I would love to have the lastest Part of Me demo on HT20, but if they didn't included back then...

that's the bad part of the comeback, no more old demos will be released, sad.

Edited November 29, 2024 by wslwins

[bloodbath]

18 minutes ago, wslwins said:

that's the bad part of the comeback, no more old demos will be released, sad.

2027 and 2030 perhaps, MTM is their last popular record, ATS is the band's darling, but beyond that, there's albums loved by the hardcore fan base and little else.

[thigolpbr]

Yes, there will be the MTM20 and ATS20 box sets after these albums. I believe the band will not do any more.

I also don't know if anything will happen for HT30.

The record company knows how successful these boxes are.

Future box sets will be a way to always pay homage to Chester in some way.

[martinez]

Did a quick check and comparison of the songs from disc 4 and 5 with their original versions. Because the other day I have noticed that the Easier To Run was a bit different from the version released on the single/digital bonus edition. If like any anniversary celebration is not enough reason to go into the stems and export the song to prevent it from having transitions then what other situation have to happen to convince you do that? I mean they use as a source all songs from LPU4, the same songs that contains transitions and they just edited them for M20 release (maybe minus SMSTYM, the transition from that one was removed in 2008). Maybe they don't have stems for every song like Mike said some time ago? Anyway, here's the info about some of the edits:

 

Sold My Soul To Yo Mama

- a version from "Songs From The Underground" was used, it has the exact same cut of the transition at the end as version from M20.

 

Standing In The Middle^, differences comparing the version from LPU4:

- portion of the ending with transition to Step Up was cut and small fade out at the end was applied. Of course removing the transition this way cause that they removed a portion of the "Standing In The Middle" ending too, so the ending is incomplete --> https://i.ibb.co/8L7NQJry/sitm.jpg
- the song still has transition at the beginning (the crowd noise) from the LPU4 second track "Breaking The Habit (Live)".

 

If you play this M20 version of the song after the BTH live from LPU4, the transition still works beautifully.

Breaking The Habit (Original Mike 2002 Demo)^

- some kind of compression was added on the whole track. It sounds more "watery" especially during the verses. Additionally 2 second of silence at the end was cut.

 

While the other LPU tracks on M20 have some nice mastering upgrade, with bass boost etc., this one seems to have downgrade in my opinion, but seriously if you will compare it for yourself, you will probably agree with me

 

Rhinocerous (2002 Demo)
Attached (2003 Demo)

- the sound volume of both was decreased --> https://i.ibb.co/84D8ktBt/076654.jpg
- around 1 second (803 milliseconds) of silence at the end was removed from Rhinocerous
- can't be sure for 100% but it is a possible that the Attached contains a tiny bit of compression in relation to the LPU15 version

Easier To Run (Live LPU Tour 2003)^

- the silence at the beginning with very small portion of the fade in intro was removed
- new fade out near the end was done, making the version on M20 a bit shortened. After the fade out the rest of the song, including the part where Chester says "Thank You" was cut --> https://i.ibb.co/gL16BCDS/etr.jpg

 

So the full track without above changes is exclusive to the CD single and the digital bonus edition of the album.

 

Crawling (Live Reading Festival 2003)^

- around 2,5 seconds of the beginning was cut, new fade in was made and the song now starts almost immediately from Chester's talking.
- new fade out near the end, and after it the rest of the track (a little over 3 seconds) was cut --> https://i.ibb.co/G4GswrwY/crawlg-reading.jpg

 

After those changes the song is shortened for little over 5 seconds.

Breaking The Habit (Live Rock Am Ring 2004)^

- the transition at the beginning was cut and fade in was applied, small fade out was applied at the end too.

Step Up_Nobody's Listening_It's Goin' Down (Live)

- fade in was added at the start

That's all. Besides that I want to mention that all tracks from the disc 4 and 5 has slightly different mastering and they sound significantly better. Maybe with some exceptions like "Breaking The Habit (Original Mike 2002 Demo)".

 

The information about all with the ^ symbol was added to the song versions on Linkinpedia.

[LPLStaff]

Well done on this. This is a bit messy if they are removing "thank you" and such from songs... they have to be careful or they will eliminate the longest versions of the tracks as the primary versions that exist.

The goal should be to always export the full song (no transitions) and add a tiny fade at the end if needed. They seem to instead be chopping things. 

 

What was removed from Standing in the Middle? The transition into the live sound of the next song?

[bloodbath]

One question:

 

Does this happened on the HT20 boxset?

 

 

[Rasputin 93]

Some different errors, but these are already covered on the wiki, I think.

https://linkinpedia.com/wiki/Hybrid_Theory_(20th_Anniversary_Edition)#Pressing_Errors

Unless Martinez wants to do a full deep dive again, of course.

[martinez]

On 11/17/2025 at 5:31 PM, martinez said:

Crawling (Live Reading Festival 2003)^

- around 2,5 seconds of the beginning was cut, new fade in was made and the song now starts almost immediately from Chester's talking.
- new fade out near the end, and after it the rest of the track (a little over 3 seconds) was cut --> https://i.ibb.co/G4GswrwY/crawlg-reading.jpg

 

Update on this one, the changes of the song wasn't done especially for M20, the exact same differences has the version from the Compilation CD, the same source was used on M20 as the one from the Compilation.

 

On 11/17/2025 at 6:02 PM, LPLStaff said:

What was removed from Standing in the Middle? The transition into the live sound of the next song?

 

There was a small crowd noise at the end.

 

I can later do the same check for HT20.

[bloodbath]

So basically the only "real" loss was Easier to Run, right? I mean, the removal of certain transitions is part of the game to make everything run as smooth as possible, and the loss of a couple of seconds of crowd noise in Crawling... I can live with that. But if you cut dialogue for me is a failure. Just my personal take

[martinez]

8 hours ago, bloodbath said:

 the removal of certain transitions is part of the game to make everything run as smooth as possible

 

Yeah, too bad that to remove transition they also remove portion of intro/outro of some songs. That sucks. But it is what it is. Shame.

 

Also, not sure about it but if they use the CD source, I mean if they use the 16-bit lossless that they have and then export it to 24-bit/96.0kHz then it is out of sense too in that case.

[bloodbath]

5 minutes ago, martinez said:

 

Yeah, too bad that to remove transition they also remove portion of intro/outro of some songs. That sucks. But it is what it is. Shame.

 

Also, not sure about it but if they use the CD source, I mean if they use the 16-bit lossless that they have and then export it to 24-bit/96.0kHz then it is out of sense too in that case.

It's weird, for sure. If they had the master tracks they could just have remove the transition without cutting anything. For example, leaving the last scratch on SMSTYM, instead of finish up with the Chester talking sample. 

 

These are minor complains, the HT20 case was way worst, but I mean, after spending months preparing this box set, I feel that they could have avoided these issues

[martinez]

1 hour ago, bloodbath said:

It's weird, for sure. If they had the master tracks they could just have remove the transition without cutting anything.

 

It would be even easier if they would export the song from stems and just master it. Stems likely never contains transitions. Transitions usually are made after the song is already mixed/mastered. So you editing the already mastered files to make the transitions from them and at the same time you can keep the already mastered non-transitions version of all songs for later if you want to release the single version of any of them.

 

It's hard to say why they did how they did. Maybe they couldn't find the stems? Or maybe they have the stems but they were not mixed, so like making the same mix will be a bit difficult. Or maybe a decision from the beginning was made that they will edit them, without even searching for the stems?