Coizu Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 (edited) 16 minutes ago, hahninator said: How do they not? They are a part of Linkin Park’s career. Waiting for the End and Fine are in there. It’s comprehensive about Chester, it isn’t just Meteora. I missed those. So I thought New Divide was the only non-Meteora reference which made it stand out. Edited February 11, 2023 by Coizu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrider Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 There is also "Burn It Down". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeroboi Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 1 hour ago, leftshoe18 said: I think it's one of Chester's best vocal performances from the era but the song overall isn't better than the ballads that are already on the album. If you replace Hit The Floor or Nobody's Listening then I think the album becomes too ballad-heavy for Linkin Park in 2003. Better than easier to run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftshoe18 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 44 minutes ago, xeroboi said: Better than easier to run Easier To Run is like my second favorite LP ballad so I'm gonna have to disagree with you there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPLStaff Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 1 hour ago, xeroboi said: Better than easier to run Easier to Run has a really strong bridge and ending, going right from verse 2 to the bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somebodyangry Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 12 hours ago, LPLStaff said: Over what? It isn't better than anything that made the album, right? Nobody's Listening maybe? I’d have picked Lost over Nobody’s Listening any day, no brainer to me. But I get the choice, they would have had 3 really similar songs on the album (Numb, ETR and Lost), so it’s understandable, Nobody’s listening being more hip hop leaning and experimental Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftshoe18 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 I like Lost more than Nobody's Listening but I think NL is important to the flow of the album and Linkin Park in general being able to branch out into more styles on subsequent albums. The seeds for experimentation were set on Meteora with songs like Breaking the Habit and Nobody's Listening so they could push more of their boundaries with MTM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somebodyangry Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 26 minutes ago, leftshoe18 said: I like Lost more than Nobody's Listening but I think NL is important to the flow of the album and Linkin Park in general being able to branch out into more styles on subsequent albums. The seeds for experimentation were set on Meteora with songs like Breaking the Habit and Nobody's Listening so they could push more of their boundaries with MTM. I agree on this, LOST instead of Nobody’s would have been like cutting UIB and adding another song similar to BID. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZLP-NaughtyNottingham Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 3 hours ago, LPLStaff said: Easier to Run has a really strong bridge and ending, going right from verse 2 to the bridge. the way Mike and Chester end the song doing this rap/sing combination it's really beautiful I don't remember any other instance where they sounded so good together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xeroboi Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 Mike dislike easier to run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftshoe18 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 And? We're allowed to like songs the band members aren't particularly fond of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasputin 93 Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 6 hours ago, hahninator said: How do they not? They are a part of Linkin Park’s career. Waiting for the End and Fine are in there. It’s comprehensive about Chester, it isn’t just Meteora. probably just me, but fine is not from LP, so this is the part I question why it made it in there to begin with. However, it doesn't change the actual result for me and triggered my curiosity about the decision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZLP-NaughtyNottingham Posted February 11, 2023 Share Posted February 11, 2023 3 hours ago, xeroboi said: Mike dislike easier to run It's really interesting that Hit The Floor and ETR only were played for 2 months and then they got deleted from existence. They deserved better especially ETR that had a really good spot in the set it was the song that they used to open the encore. Very interesting and weird situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPLStaff Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Hit the Floor sounded off live. Especially when you had something like Figure.09 in there that could come off better on stage. Easier to Run is a good song to open the encore. They should have kept it. Don't play it on Summer Sanitarium, but when that setlist went international to Europe, Australia, Asia, keep it in that setlist to open the encore before APFMH/OSC. They started bringing My December back in that slot, which is fine, but ETR could have been played at 20 more shows after Summer Sanitarium. Bringing My December back in Asia is good. In summer 2004 they wanted an explosive encore with Crawling, Wish, and One Step Closer. They tried dropping A Place for My Head twice to start both summer tours in 2004 but brought it back both times lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leftshoe18 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 I think it's odd that Hit The Floor didn't translate well live. On the record it feels like it would be a great song for a live show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZLP-NaughtyNottingham Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 2 hours ago, leftshoe18 said: I think it's odd that Hit The Floor didn't translate well live. On the record it feels like it would be a great song for a live show. There are some other examples of live songs that sound off in their early performances but later they master them and sound good. i think that they really disliked those songs and thats why they were out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPLStaff Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 In comparison, Lies Greed Misery sounded bad live and they kept it around for the entire touring cycle lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfox Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 That vocal take is just stunning better than in Numb, can’t stop listening to it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZLP-NaughtyNottingham Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 The more i watch the video the more i like it They did a really good decision, it feels modern If they went with the old clips with low quality it would look terrible. Great job guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bambitt Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 52 minutes ago, JZ-GreyDaze said: There are some other examples of live songs that sound off in their early performances but later they master them and sound good. i think that they really disliked those songs and thats why they were out. It happens that you write a song thinking “this is gonna be great live” and then you play it for a few times and it is “meh”. Happened in my band a couple of times 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somebodyangry Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 It’s like “THP is made to be played live” and then half of it never gets played and the first single gets cut out of the set lists after a few weeks lol. It’s LP 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GroundXero Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Are we sure lost has the same authenticity as we saw in the making of Meteora dvd? The lyrics are different so is the instrumentation except that computer beep boop, The only thing I can contrast is the breakdown near 2:30 on the track because Chester really shines but the rest of the song is poppier and pretty much underwhelming, hearing Chester is worth it but the track itself is weak so are we sure this was a demo that was finished around that time or did Mike finish it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPLStaff Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Mike confirms he didn't touch anything now on it. The Making of Meteora shows songs so early in the process - look how rough/bad the demos are of Figure.09, From the Inside, Somewhere I Belong, Lost are in the DVD. That stuff was filmed in early 2002 to summer 2002~. Way way before the songs took big shape. There's no reason to think Mike finished the song now or something, he said it was fully completed in 2002 and the first song to be cut from the album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWillWalkAway Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 (edited) On 2/10/2023 at 10:57 PM, JZ-GreyDaze said: The instrumental of Lost is not that good I disagree a bit. The new one isn’t incredible but I think the original Andy Wallace mix will be a lot better. The new mix doesn’t fit with the sound of the rest of the album, and the 2002 mix most definitely will. Edited February 13, 2023 by IWillWalkAway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodbath Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 38 minutes ago, IWillWalkAway said: I disagree a bit. The new one isn’t incredible but I think the original Andy Wallace mix will be a lot better. The new mix doesn’t fit with the sound of the rest of the album, and the 2002 mix most definitely will. Maybe that's why they decided to add the original mix to the CD bundle, to recreate a "What If" with 14 tracks. PS: besides the obvious cashgrab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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