RogueSoul Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 What do you think LP could have done in studio or mixing to make any song sound better? And I don't mean add or change songs for other demos, like adding No Roads Left instead of IB to MTM. I mean what elements of songs could be changed to make it better. Here are some examples: - Make the IMR synth more prominent like in live performances - Make the strings in NRL louder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZLP-NaughtyNottingham Posted April 17, 2014 Share Posted April 17, 2014 Don't get me wrong I love Blackout but the first time I listened to it the soft las part dissapointed me they should have kept the song heavy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONDREUS240 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 ATS could've been mixed better in general. A lot of the songs just sounded too muddy IMO. That could've just been from the overabundance of sounds though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geki Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 ATS could have been mixed better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hahninator Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 1. Make Bleed It Out longer. 2. ??? 3. PROFIT!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedamian58c Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 In GATS they should make kick drum louder, solo guitar should be more audible,or generally it should better mix, hope it will be different mix on the album. Generally, LP should make vocals more raw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[AndOne] Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 - Turn up the guitars in the Burn It Down studio version. I'll never understand this decision, it's just fine in the live version. - Make the ebow in No More Sorrow sound more "natural". I heard the live version first and I think it always sounded way better than the studio version,. I agree about the kick drum in GATS, I highly doubt this will get a different mix for the album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rasputin 93 Posted April 18, 2014 Share Posted April 18, 2014 (edited) - shorten the static noise of 'Part of Me' so you don't have to skip until the ambient part comes in... - 'C'MOOON!' intro on With You as they do live - separate pretty much all songs on Reanimation a bit better (imo) so you don't hear what songs comes next or was before, but keep the transitions the best it can - add Foreword to Don't Stay - add fade-out scream to outro of BTH - add the outro transition of LOATR to BIO - scream the last pre-bridge lines of New Divide - combine The Requiem and The Radiance to one song - add Empty Spaces to WTCFM - change the scratches of Blackout with those who are shown in the Making of video...or combine both - add the live scream to The Catalyst - make UIB a bit longer so it's not like 3 songs in one, maybe longer transitions between each part - add Tinfoil to Powerless Edited April 18, 2014 by Rasputin 93 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyleronlplive Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Make the strings actually audible on I'll Be Gone. Every time i hear about Owen Pallet's contribution to one of their LT songs, I think of Castle of Glass because it is so much more noticeable, but that was all Mike. On second thought, just replace IBG with a finished version of Primo: add the strings, improved lyrics, and more real drums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1996_LP Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Obviously for me it'll have to be.... * Re record "In the End" with mikes "the Untitled" demo lyrics in the verses. * add Mikes harmonies and background vocals to "A Place for Amy head" from th Esaul demos. * add Chester's scream from the Part of Me demo to the HTEP version of Part of Me * re record High voltage reprise with the guitar part heard in the live version. * add the "ticking clock" intro (heard in the third encore session) to The intro to No more sorrow * combine all the interludes from Reanimation/A thousand Suns to the beings or endings of the full songs. * re record a studio version QWERTY more akin to the live version. * remix\remaster Living Things and Out of ashes entirely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedamian58c Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Another things they can do better is: Make APFMH outdo screams better and longer and add screams in verses Add screams in Papercut verses and bridge/outro, make "The suuuuun" sound more natural in last chorus/outro Add 2003 intro into By Myself Make "I'm about tooooo!" in OSC, longer and more heavy and raspy Delete the claps from Given Up Add "I'm " growl into Faint Make And One live structure in studio version Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZLP-NaughtyNottingham Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 - shorten the static noise of 'Part of Me' so you don't have to skip until the ambient part comes in... - 'C'MOOON!' intro on With You as they do live 1: You can do that by yourself 2: It was already done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_lp Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Fire Brad, Rob and Dave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Fire Brad, Rob and Dave. I literally don't think you like Linkin Park. lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlassCastles Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I literally don't think you like Linkin Park. lol He doesn't, he likes Hybrid Theory and Meteora. Maybe Reanimation and Collision Course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 He doesn't, he likes Hybrid Theory and Meteora. Maybe Reanimation and Collision Course. So he hasn't been a fan of the body of work they've produced in the last 7 years since MTM came out. Must have really loved those 2 albums to still be here lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZLP-NaughtyNottingham Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 So he hasn't been a fan of the body of work they've produced in the last 7 years since MTM came out. Must have really loved those 2 albums to still be here lol He's like the diva queen of bitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearOfTheDuck Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I've said "more interesting basslines" in several threads, but it's also applicable here. More audible guitars on LITE and BID. Leave the demo verses of ITE on the final version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwerty95k Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Make QWERTY (Studio Version) like the 2006 live version that's way better and more awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[AndOne] Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 More audible guitar in Lies Greed Misery, I like how it sound at Rock in Rio 2012. Seems to be a general problem with the guitars in many of the Living Things songs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geki Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Had the final versions of BITS & Iridescent have Chester singing the verses and choruses instead of Mike. That always bugged me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twiilite Posted April 25, 2014 Share Posted April 25, 2014 It feels like rather than actually making the songs better, most people are just taking what makes the songs so special in a live setting and putting them back into the studio versions. My ideas: Powerless - have Chester scream the last "Powerless" during the outro. The emotional climax would have been much more satisfying. Castle of Glass - extend it into a 6/7 minute song ala TLTGYA. In Pieces - same as for Powerless, have Chester scream "don't lie" before the guitar solo and at the end as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astat Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 -Turn up the string sample during the Papercut outro (check out the Smokeout 2003 performance, you can hear it really well there). -Keep the harmonies from the demo version in the APFMH chorus (they always sang them live anyway). -Make the higher harmony vocal during the last chorus of Pushing Me Away louder (you can only really hear it on the acapella). -Remove the party background noise from Bleed it Out, speed up the tempo slightly, beef up the guitars a bit, and maybe extend the outro (I think the "full" extended version should still be reserved for the live version - I've never liked drum solos on studio recordings). -Give Guilty All the Same more low end punch in general (kick/bass/low end of the synth parts), and polish the vocals a little more. -Put the guitar parts from the live version of High Voltage in the studio version (the "reprise"). -Re-release Hybrid Theory with High Voltage after Cure For the Itch like it was probably intended to be. And finally... -Give me the multitracks for Living Things so I can do the job that Manny Marroquin obviously didn't care to do. The mixing on that album is garbage. This includes the synth in In My Remains, the strings in I'll Be Gone, guitars being drowned out all over the album...basically turn down the vocals and all the droning synths/sampled drums, and I guarantee that album would sound eons better. I think the only songs on that album that are mixed "well" are Victimized, Skin to Bone, Until it Breaks, and Tinfoil/Powerless. Everything else has something that bugs me. Make the ebow in No More Sorrow sound more "natural". I heard the live version first and I think it always sounded way better than the studio version The EBow thing is executed with different gear on the live version than the studio version, which is why it sounds different (the live version doesn't actually use an EBow at all). It feels like rather than actually making the songs better, most people are just taking what makes the songs so special in a live setting and putting them back into the studio versions. This. If the original studio versions had everything found in the live versions, we'd be bitching that they don't do anything different to the songs when they play them live. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geki Posted April 26, 2014 Share Posted April 26, 2014 -Give me the multitracks for Living Things so I can do the job that Manny Marroquin obviously didn't care to do. The mixing on that album is garbage. This includes the synth in In My Remains, the strings in I'll Be Gone, guitars being drowned out all over the album...basically turn down the vocals and all the droning synths/sampled drums, and I guarantee that album would sound eons better. I think the only songs on that album that are mixed "well" are Victimized, Skin to Bone, Until it Breaks, and Tinfoil/Powerless. Everything else has something that bugs me. That'd be awesome for an Astat mixed version of LT. Tell LP to give him the multitracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedamian58c Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 -Give me the multitracks for Living Things That'd be awesome for an Astat mixed version of LT. Tell LP to give him the multitracks. As far as I know multitracks of LT are easily available on internet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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