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I'm sure that management is aware of the site, they're familiar with quite a few fansites, given the number that have been shut down or sent cease & desist orders over the years. It might be that they're unable to due to international laws... dunno. But I've got to agree, something's got to be done. At the very least, Russian fans should be given alternative information pointing them to alternate sources - maybe a mass email campaign?

I'll take that even one step further - There's an old trading term known as B&P (blanks and postage) whereas someone who wants a show contacts a person who has it and arranges to send blank discs and enough to cover the return postage on those discs. Many traders I began trading with used it to obtain most of their early collections. If bazinga! admin and staff had the correct intentions and truly wanted to serve the fans, they'd do something similar as I know that domestic postage can't be as expensive as what they're selling copies for.

Pretty sure someone taped. Not sure if/when the tape might get out but I've heard the taper is quite awesome.

From the taper's info file:

The taper has uploaded quite a few of them at dime.

Did you even bother to read the first post? 30 to 45 days after the tour is over.

Quick! Someone call for the waaaaaambulance before we lose him. Ever downloaded flac and converted it for yourself? There are dozens of programs that can do so. Staff and members upload enough here without having to fill a bullshit request like this. Ever thought of asking in a polite manner?

There's the original. The audio of Mike and Chester speaking from your link are from the Collision Course DVD.

LP used to say it nightly. Unwritten/unsaid rule or not, they've effectively dropped it. In the last couple of years, both Mike and Chester have been pretty vocal in interviews stating that they are not the angsty, angry band they once were and people expecting them to be that will be disappointed because they've moved on. I've purchased the DSPs for both LP shows I've attended since they first went on sale during PR 07. While I only taped one of those two shows, I intended to tape the other but ran into some problems. Mark purchased DSPs for the the shows he taped last year. Most of the tapers I know purchase DSPs because we're fans of the band. You're not going to get some random taper at a show - Those of us that tape are fans first and tapers because we're fans. As for your argument of an exponentially increasing supply chain for audience recordings? Please. Outside of the few hundred people who may download a torrent from dime, people at these shows are basically clueless to the trading and distribution of audience recordings. Add to that the limited number of those of us willing to and able to tape and you're bound to see only one or two recordings per show at best. That certainly can't compete with the signs at the merch booths saying 'Buy tonight's show here' or the announcements online of DSPs being sold.

Correct - everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But this is a discussion of LP shows, not Alter Bridge or the Prodigy. When was the last time we've heard the 'when someone falls down, pick them up' at an LP show? It's fairly noticeable to me that LP have dropped several pit-worthy songs in the last couple of years (Runaway, Forgotten, With You and APFMH) and inserted some for which a pit would just be strange (SOTD, In Pieces, TLTGYA). This is NOT the same band from 2001 playing those high energy, 30 to 40 minute sets. The fans are getting older too and many of us have already or are learning to appreciate their musical talents far exceeding what they showed early on with tracks like OSC and ITE. If the band were selling these online like Metallica does - anyone can purchase every show - then I'd agree with you. But early on after the announcement of DSPs for PR 07, it was made fairly clear that these would be sold solely at the venue in question in limited quantities and not online after the fact. Further, Mike alluded to wanting fans to be able to trade and share the the DSPs much the way we do the audience sources. Do I have proof of this other than a vague post that may or may not have been on his blog? Sure - this site still exists. LPLive routinely shares both information on how/where to get the DSPs when released and audience recordings when they surface and we're still here and have not been issued cease and desist orders by the band or its representatives. We know we're in the sights of band management - but we keep our noses clean, don't allow official materials to be shared on our forums and we've gained the trust of a few, I'm guessing, proved by our having been allowed to release 'She Couldn't' when we got it.

What you see as a waste, I see as an advantage as I've got a very personal documentation of a show I attended. It's a waste to me these days to see anyone thrashing around in a mosh pit rather than enjoying the performance, a waste to sit and talk during a band's set, a waste to get piss drunk and not remember a show, a waste - in short - to do anything less than sit back and enjoy the performance. And yes, tapers in general are very critical of their own and other tapes, but we're weird like that. It's all the others who download this stuff and then complain when all the know and want are the DSPs.

I make a big deal over audience recordings because I pay damn good money for the ticket as well as my gear to do it, as do a lot of other tapers. Who the fuck are you to tell me that I'm screwing LP out of money when I've probably invested more in LP tickets, merch, etc over the years than I've put into maintaining my car? In case you've forgotten, this site was built to catalog those audience recordings and the band themselves have essentially given us the thumbs up for the work we do here.

Why would anyone read what was posted before? Gotta love the various reactions to sources popping up sometimes. We get the usual 'I'll wait for the DSP' or 'QUALITY SUXZ!', etc. If only those people knew what it takes to produce ANY source for these shows they'd change their tune quite quickly IMO.

Updated first post with the 4shared directory. Thanks Mike!

I prefer this one so far. Both are quite good though.

You've now made the same request twice within 20 minutes. Patience is a virtue.

Thanks to LPL member michalangelo for sharing his recording from the Gräfenhainichen (aka Ferropolis) show on 08/02/2009. For those familiar with torrents and with an account at dime: LINK And a 4shared directory for those who would prefer that: LINK

I took care of that one. You should have full use of it.

Due to a particular repeated offender on the site, we've had to *at least temporarily* institute a 25 post minimum for users to be able to use the Shoutbox. LPLive staff apologizes for any inconvenience this may cause to those who have less than 25 posts, but it is necessary at this time.

*won't point out what i want to point out. you already know*

The old days... Imagine if LPLive uploaded only a track per day for the stuff we've offered in the past? There would be riots!

While not shocking due to the lack of updates, I'm sad to report that forfeitthegame.com has closed it's virtual doors. "Thank you to everyone who has been so supportive over the years as Forfeit the Game grew to be one of the biggest Linkin Park fansites on the internet. Unfortunately time has come to lay the site to rest permanently. For up-to-date news and images, audio and media please take a look at a few of our favourite sites..." FTG was right up there with the biggest of LP fan sites and the closing of the site marks the passing of another of the old school sites on which many of us looked to for the latest in LP news and media. FTG was a forerunner of LPLive as a media hub in it's heyday and was also influential in the creation of this very site - much of the information contained within their pages regarding shows was ultimately used here. Props to crewdy (a.k.a. Pete) for all of his work and dedication in the past.

And props to them if they do. That is, until they try to profit off of selling recordings or something like that.

At least once more. They played Runaway at Bamboozle 07 but that was prior to DSPs being sold.

Want to question our sources? Be my guest. Mark owns the site and was told himself by crew that it wouldn't change. I'd say that's pretty damn reliable, wouldn't you?