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As long as there's a good chunk of new album stuff and at least SOME of the cool stuff they introduced on the European tour (BIO/Sabotage, With You, and APFMH mainly), I'll be content. I'm not going to be seeing this tour anyway, so I'm not too concerned.
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I think the click actually speeds up a couple bars before the break, if you listen really close to the last couple bars of the bridge (..."face this now") the tempo actually starts increasing there.
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First 3 clips are Lost in the Echo, Skin to Bone, and Castle of Glass. Not sure what the 4th one is.
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Nobody's Listening on the U.S. leg of the Meteora Word Tour in 2004. Didn't happen at every show, but when it did they'd usually start the song with their regular instruments and switch during the second verse.
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Sounds more like they just used a different piece of music at the beginning of the video and cross-faded into Divided. Once the part that's actually identifiable as Divided kicks in, it sounds pretty much the same as the original song to me.
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There's guitar at the end of Robot Boy, starting after the synth solo. There's guitar starting at the 1:00 mark of Jornada Del Muerto. There's guitar throughout almost all of Waiting For the End, it first enters when Chester's first singing part comes in and continues throughout the rest of the song. The glitch breakdown on Blackout is likely (at least partially) made up of chopped-up guitar samples. The majority of the instrumental portion of Wretches and Kings is made up of chopped-up guitar samples, originally played by Brad and subsequently played by Mike with an MPC. There's guitar between the first chorus and second verse of Iridescent, in addition to the stuff at the end. There's guitar in about 2/3rds of The Catalyst (starting in the second verse and running through the second chorus, the synth break, and the third chorus, then again once the heavy part of the end section comes in). Moral of the story: Listen harder, kthx.
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There are basically 3 ways an LP song starts. If it starts off with some kind of sampled part that plays for a while before anything else comes in, Dylan gets a cue from one of the band members when they're ready and starts playback on the Pro Tools rig (this is most common with the long intros the band uses for concert intros - the AMBO intro to What I've Done, the long intro to No More Sorrow, etc.). If it starts off with Rob counting in, Rob will give Dylan a cue to start the click track, then once Rob hears the click, he'll count the rest of the band in (this happens with tracks like Crawling, Bleed it Out, Numb, and a few others). If it starts off with another band member, they'll usually give Dylan the cue and hear the click track instead (most common on tracks where Mike starts them off with piano - What I've Done, the new LOATR/SOTD/Iridescent medley, etc.). There are very few situations in an LP live show where someone isn't playing to a click track. The few exceptions are piano versions of songs where it's just Mike and Chester, and any time Brad starts a song by himself, since he doesn't wear in-ear monitors (ever notice that the A Place For My Head intro always seems slower than the rest of the song? That's because the click track doesn't come in until Mike starts the first verse - this is also the reason for the pause between the intro and the rest of the song). The only "full" song I can think of that's performed entirely without a click track is The Messenger.
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...How does that even sound like it could possibly be anything else?
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This. 99.9999999999% sure this isn't happening guys.
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Jesus fucking christ, sorry I didn't bother obsessively watching live videos to find out when Chester's doing backups and when he isn't. It sounds like 2 voices the entire time on the DSPs, you can't really hear Chester's backups much at all, so I figured he was just doubling Mike the whole time. I was wrong, get the fuck over it. I'm sorry, but saying my musical knoweldge has been "voided" when I've been dedicating my entire fucking LIFE to music for the last 11 years is something I'm going to take pretty fucking personally.
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The backing tracks are run off a Pro Tools rig that Dylan has offstage in "monitor world," as Pooch calls it. I'd assume it's the same rig he uses to run all the click tracks and stuff like that, each song is probably loaded as a Pro Tools session with all of the backing tracks getting sent to the FOH console so Pooch can mix everything and the click tracks getting sent to Dylan's console so he can send them to whoever needs to hear them in their monitors (usually Rob, and probably Mike and Joe as well in certain situations).
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10.06.2012 - Moscow, Russia - Maxidrom
Astat replied to hahninator's topic in Previous Show Discussion
Live 8 will probably go down as the biggest crowd LP ever plays for - estimates for the Philly show are between 1 and 1.5 million people attending the show at some point throughout the day, with over half a million being present on average at any given time. -
...I just hear Chester doubling Mike on the rap vocals, no backing track/"robot voice" or anything like that. Sounds like Chester to me, anyway.
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Chester definitely sounded the best in Lisbon, but the band sounded tighter at Pinkpop.
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Isn't that what he has mounted on that little "riser" thing at the front center of his rig? I'm talking about the thing that's in the bottom left corner that he uses for the triggered samples on things like the Burn it Down intro.
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...With You is titled as "Without You" on the Pinkpop DSP. *facepalm*
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More info for you guys! -Rob indeed has two electronic cymbals on his kit now. One is above his rack of trigger pads on his left, the other is under his left-side crash cymbal, right beside his splash. I also noticed that his rack of triggers has shrunk by two, the big rack of 5 triggers built into regular drum shells has shrunk down to 3 (the top row of them was removed, and one of the electronic cymbals was mounted up there). So he still has the same number of electronic components on his kit as he did on the last cycle, just in a different arrangement. -Mike is using Fernandes Sustainer-equipped guitars on Waiting for the End now. The two he's currently using in Europe are both old guitars that Brad used on No More Sorrow (both are CE 24s, one red and one blue), but the one he used at the House of Blues show was a new one, from what I can tell it might be an SE model, since it appears to have a flat top on it. -Brad has two PRS NF3s for With You/Runaway, one is white with a maple fretboard, the other is black with a rosewood fretboard. -Chester's two guitars for Iridescent are a powder blue PRS Mira that he's had for a while, and a black PRS SE One that actually belongs to Mike. -Mike is using a sunburst PRS CE 24 on Somewhere I Belong at some shows, it's a guitar that he's had for a while but rarely used before now (it was usually just a backup guitar in the past). -The white PRS Mike used on Somewhere I Belong at the House of Blues show isn't a Dave Navarro signature model like I thought, it's actually the same white PRS Brad's been using pretty frequently the last few years. Mike must have just borrowed it for that one show, because Brad's using it in Europe. -Chester's "Green Guitar Project" Telecaster-style guitar appears to just have one pickup, and it looks like a Hot Rails or something like that (a single coil-sized humbucker). -I'm not very good with Joe's gear, but I noticed that he's using either an iPad or something that looks a lot like one for all of his "trigger" parts (stuff he would've used an MPC, or something with MPC-style pads for in the past). I wonder what app he's using for that?
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03.06.2012 - Nürnberg, Germany - Rock im Park
Astat replied to hahninator's topic in Previous Show Discussion
I doubt a new set comes into play for Berlin, they wouldn't really have time to rehearse anything drastically different, and their pre-tour rehearsals would've probably focused primarily on the set they've been playing. Since this is the show being filmed for the Living Things movie theater event, I think they'll revert back to opening with Tinfoil (that way they have 3 new songs in the set, plus the Until it Breaks verse), and they'll either move APFMH somewhere else in the set or just use the same set from the House of Blues show. -
You can definitely still hear Mike rapping in the outro (you can also see him on the screen behind the stage at one point), it's just really faint. Nothing more than a case of poor mixing on the live broadcast. I did notice that Brad didn't play the last guitar part in the song though (3:35 to 3:41 on that video), I haven't downloaded the DSP yet, but I'd be willing to bet that was fixed, along with the false start on the Somewhere I Belong intro too.
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01.06.2012 - Adenau, Germany - Rock am Ring
Astat replied to hahninator's topic in Previous Show Discussion
Wait...what? People are actually judging the performance based solely on crowd reaction? That's fucking stupid. The band sounded just as good as they have at any other show on this tour, from the footage I've looked at. Were all those club shows from 2000 when the band was opening for Kottonmouth Kings shitty too then? Because hardly anybody gave a shit about LP at those performances either. -
Damn, the theater up here isn't showing it. Oh well.
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I think the What I've Done/Faint/No More Sorrow combo they used to open a lot of shows in 2008 was perfect. They basically did those 3 songs without ANY kind of pause in between them, with the AMBO intro on WID it kept the energy going for a solid 12 minutes or so to kick off the show.
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Adam went to McNally Smith? Funny, that's exactly where I'm looking into taking some classes next year.
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It's a Vox SDC-55.
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2012.06.22 2012.06.23 Tokyo, Japan - Music Station MTV VMAs
Astat replied to LPxDC's topic in Previous Show Discussion
There are VERY few Japanese fans who frequent English-speaking websites. I have no idea why, but it's always been that way.