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If you could choose one album to be played in it's entirety..
Astat replied to shadowofthehabit92's topic in Live Talk
Yeah, I'll go with Reanimation just because of how little of it wound up being performed live. Seeing stuff like BY_MYSLF and the full version of 1STP KLOSR would be SICK. -
Yeah, that looks like some kind of electronic cymbal that Rob has mounted on top of his rack of trigger pads (it stops moving pretty quickly after he hits it, so I doubt it's a real cymbal). He uses it on Burn it Down, but I can't make out any specific sound that's triggered by it. Also, I lied about Mike's keyboard, he's still using the Neko XXL. On another note, I'm kind of surprised to see Brad using a PRS on Burn it Down. The guitar on the studio version sounds like a Strat to me.
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http://lplive.net/shows/20110222.php - "After 'The Radiance', Mike told Dylan to hold off on starting the 'Breaking The Habit' intro sample because his keyboard broke." Breaking the Habit wasn't even performed at this show, nor was it typically a part of that show's setlist...
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You sure that's a cymbal and not one of his triggers? He had a bunch of new trigger drums added on the left side of his kit for the ATS tour.
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The HTEP definitely comes first out of those releases. The 9-track demo CD is dated February 11, 2000 (meaning the demos contained on it were likely recorded in late 1999/the very beginning of 2000), the 8-track doesn't have a date on it, and the 7-track (which we know came after the 8-track) is labeled "Demos from 02-2000," which seems to suggest that February of 2000 was when those tracks were recorded. Based on that, plus the differences between the 9 and 8-track versions of certain songs (the most telltale sign being the subtle arrangement changes to Crawling), I would say the 9-track is the oldest of the 3 demo CDs, and the 8 and 7-track versions came a little bit later in the "narrowing down" process for what songs would be on Hybrid Theory. I'm really not sure where the 2-track APFMH/By Myself demo comes into play, obviously it was before the name change to Linkin Park, but other than that it's hard to say (although it IS the only demo CD to use the final "By Myself" and "A Place for My Head" titles, so I'm inclined to say it came out sometime in early-mid 2000, after all the other demos). If you want to go a bit further than that even, the unmastered copy of Hybrid Theory was dated May of 2000, the Wicked World of Warner sampler with Now I See on it was a promo that was given away during the Ozzfest tour, so it would've come out in July of 2000. I'm really not sure when the Raw Power promo with the By Myself demo came out.
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http://lplive.net/shows/20120518.php - I know this is probably going to be edited numerous times over the next few days, but I figure I might as well offer what input I can now: -While we obviously can't confirm this 100% at this time, I think it's reasonable to assume that the version of Tinfoil used for the intro isn't the full song. Just something to keep in mind that may need correcting once the album drops. -Faint had the regular extended outro. -From what I can tell, With You did NOT have an extended intro (despite it being labeled as such on the setlist), however it DID have a slightly extended scratching outro. -Given Up had the short extended outro with the "extra note," but the "extra note" was the same as the last note of the song this time, instead of modulating to whatever note the next song started on like it did in 2010-2011. -Joe messed up the intro to Blackout. -Somewhere I Belong's extended intro was brand new - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1z3TzH4jxE -I'm pretty sure the Waiting For the End intro should be spelled "Apaches" (I noticed Jonas questioning this in the show thread because it was spelled differently on the HOB and KROQ setlists). As far as I know, there's no significance to "apatches," so the other spelling makes more sense. -One Step Closer had the same extended outro as usual. -Bleed it Out had an extended intro and outro. Also, I know "Hip Hop Medley" is an unofficial title for the Step Up/Nobody's Listening/It's Goin' Down medley from '04, but it's such a universally accepted title that everybody refers to it by that name, and LPL even uses it on the '04 setlist pages. For consistency's sake, I vote that the new LOATR/SOTD/Iridescent medley should have a name of its own as well. "Ballad Medley," perhaps?
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Yeah, it's virtually identical as far as the execution goes (totally different on the album version though - they used an Electro-Harmonix HOG for the original recording). Brad probably went that route instead of using the Digitech Whammy because his current rig doesn't have any individual pedals on stage, he uses a MIDI switching system for all his effects and keeps the stompboxes stored in a drawer as part of his rack-mounted gear. With the Whammy pedal, it would have to be on stage where he could actually use it, so they'd have to run instrument cables from his rack, out to the front of the stage and back again, just for one pedal that he uses on one song, haha.
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Yeah, that's a bit of a letdown, but thankfully the static didn't affect She Couldn't too bad on the 8-track CD anyway, it was mostly the tracks after it. As far as a timeframe goes, this was likely just a re-pressing of the 8-track CD that was done slightly later, after it was determined that She Couldn't wasn't going to be one of the songs the band would be refining any further (likely because of the well-documented sample clearance issues with that track).
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-Brad's using a white PRS with a maple neck (It's either an NF3 or a DC3, I'd assume the NF3 though because the DC3 has single-coil pickups) for With You/Runaway. It's not even a baritone (the Ibanez he used on With You/Runaway from 2003-2006 wasn't either), probably just throws some super-heavy strings on it and tunes it B to B. -Chester's been using Telecasters on Iridescent quite a bit since early 2011, that one does seem to be new though. He mentions in his speech that Sean Paden (longtime LP guitar tech) built it as part of a new "Green Guitar Project," so I guess that's something to watch out for in the future. -On the subject of Mike playing samples on Runaway, I can't tell for sure, but his main keyboard seems to have changed. I don't think he's using the Open Laps Neko XXL anymore. He also has his Access Virus synthesizer next to his main keyboard, which Brad plays during the rapping section of Burn it Down. -Mike has at least 3 blue PRS's (2 Custom 24s - one with skulls painted on it and one without, along with a CE 24), so it's possible the guitar he uses on WFTE isn't new, but from what I can see of it, it looks like it has a flat top on it, almost like it's an SE model of some type. Hard to say for sure. I know SE's are cheap and may seem unlikely to be something Mike would use, but he actually used a couple SE One models on Somewhere I Belong during the 2009 tours, so it's possible. -Mike's playing a white Dave Navarro signature model PRS on Somewhere I Belong, which is new (it's not Brad's, Brad has a white PRS that looks very similar, but his doesn't have gold hardware like the Dave Navarro model does). -The white Strat with the black pickguard that Mike uses on What I've Done isn't new, but a very rarely-seen guitar! You can see it in one of the pictures from the Okinaway 2009 DSP, but up until now, that was the only time I'd ever seen it. Brad actually doesn't use a Digitech Whammy, he uses a rack-mounted effects processor (probably the T.C. Electronics G-Major unit that he's had for years) for the pitch-shifting effect, and controls it with a Boss expression pedal, which has actually been part of his live rig since at least 2003, but up until WFTE was added to the set, I don't think he ever used it!
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18.05.2012 - West Hollywood, CA - LPU Show
Astat replied to hahninator's topic in Previous Show Discussion
Chester never said they'd never play Runaway again. He said he doesn't like the song. That's it. -
18.05.2012 - West Hollywood, CA - LPU Show
Astat replied to hahninator's topic in Previous Show Discussion
Also, note that it says "Tinfoil Intro" in the opening slot. I'm pretty sure that they won't use the full song for the show opener, much like they've done with CFTI and Session in the past. -
18.05.2012 - West Hollywood, CA - LPU Show
Astat replied to hahninator's topic in Previous Show Discussion
Yeah, WTCFM is a surprising omission in my opinion, but if you compare it with Blackout, both sound really good live but Blackout tended to get a better audience response, so maybe Blackout got the nod over it. I figured NMS would be dropped at this point though, it was the only MTM non-single that stuck around through the ATS touring cycle, and it kind of grew stale after a while. -
18.05.2012 - West Hollywood, CA - LPU Show
Astat replied to hahninator's topic in Previous Show Discussion
Maybe that's the set for the Europe tour then, and this show will be different? Hmm... -
18.05.2012 - West Hollywood, CA - LPU Show
Astat replied to hahninator's topic in Previous Show Discussion
I highly doubt LOATR/SOTD/Iridescent is a medley. 3 different keys, 3 different tempos. Odd that they're all on one line though. -
18.05.2012 - West Hollywood, CA - LPU Show
Astat replied to hahninator's topic in Previous Show Discussion
Uh-oh, apparently Blackout's in the set tonight. Cue "BEST SETLIST EVER" jizzfest. -
New track sounds pretty reminiscent of Waiting For the End to me, with that high-register reverb-drenched "guitar that doesn't sound like guitar" thing going on.
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Saw this coming a mile away. There was only one 3-day gap left in the Honda Civic Tour schedule, and it was between the Boston and Camden shows. Nice to see another show added, but still bummed I can't make it to any shows on this tour.
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The whole way LPL did the ATS tour setlists is kind of odd in my opinion. The "Speech Scratch Intro" is really just The Radiance with the Mario Savio speech replacing the Oppenheimer one. I've always personally thought that it should be notated as a separate track...but having "The Radiance" in each setlist twice would look really weird too. Coming up with a different name for what is currently known as "The Radiance (Live Version)" would solve that, but I have no clue what title would work better.
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16.05.2012 - North Hollywood, CA - KROQ Dressing Room Rehearsal
Astat replied to [AndOne]'s topic in Previous Show Discussion
If the "Apache" verse is related to the Beastie Boys in some way, like some suspect, I wonder if that's the verse that Mike plans on using during the Bleed it Out bridge for the full set? *Edit* On another note, why the hell is Burn it Down in all caps on the show page? -
http://lplive.net/shows/20110122.php "Starting with this show, the band no longer did the outro transition between 'The Catalyst' and 'The Messenger'." Not true. You can still hear the same "droning" keyboard note that crossfades into the opening chord of The Messenger on the DSP. http://lplive.net/shows/20110123.php - Why is "Speech Scratch Intro" next to The Requiem? The "speech scratch" part comes AFTER The Requiem, so wouldn't it make more sense to put it next to the following song, just like we do when Wretches and Kings is the second song? (This goes for just about every show following this one where the second song wasn't W&K, as they all seem to be labeled that way).
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16.05.2012 - North Hollywood, CA - KROQ Dressing Room Rehearsal
Astat replied to [AndOne]'s topic in Previous Show Discussion
My suspicion is that with Tinfoil being an instrumental, they'll use it as a show opener for the European tour, and that'll be the only other new song they do. Tinfoil > New Divide to open the show, or something to that effect. -
16.05.2012 - North Hollywood, CA - KROQ Dressing Room Rehearsal
Astat replied to [AndOne]'s topic in Previous Show Discussion
Highly doubt it. "Apaches" probably just refers to them using some kind of helicopter sound effect for an intro. Also, LMAO @ morons bitching about a "boring setlist" at a SIX SONG performance from REHEARSALS. Kind of curious if this winds up being a similar deal to this show, where it ends up being broadcasted later on. Considering it was part of a KROQ promotion, I'd say that's fairly likely. -
Numb and Bleed it Out are both in the same key, so I'd imagine some type of transition will take place between the two. Mike's done a What I've Done > Bleed it Out piano transition before, so I don't see why it wouldn't work with Numb.
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FYI, this is a completely separate event from the "regular" MTV VMAs (which are taking place on September 9th in Los Angeles). The way the first post is worded is kind of misleading.
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Yeah, now that Tinfoil's been confirmed as an instrumental, I wouldn't be surprised to see it become a set opener (unless it just completely doesn't fit that role for whatever reason). If they play anything new other than BID on the European tour, my money's on Tinfoil.