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The beat from the intro to Papercut is played quietly during the whispered section ( ), that's probably what you're hearing. The static from Part of Me does have a kind of similar rhythm to the Papercut drum loop.

Unknown setlist, no videos, no photos unless Joe posts some himself. Small venue inhabited by rich people (a.k.a. mostly non-Linkin Park fans) + U.S. West Coast's reputation for "LOL i dun remember but i think they played numb?!" responses when enquired about LP setlists = No chance in hell.

Joe is doing another solo DJ set at the Body English club inside the Las Vegas Hard Rock Hotel & Casino on December 15th. http://instagram.com/p/hea7duOVUl/

It's Goin' Down, Shadow of the Day, Iridescent, plus solo acoustic performances from time to time (Jane Says/Morning After, and some LPU Summit performances of The Messenger). Phoenix throws that bass after Given Up every time he uses it, it's been a tradition for over 5 years. His bass tech keeps figuring out ways to keep it working. The entire preamp section is gone (no volume/tone knobs, the bass is now just "on" or "off" depending on if it's plugged in or not), all of the tuning pegs have snapped off so it has to be tuned with a screwdriver, the upper horn of the body is bolted back together using an extra neck plate, and the nut is broken so badly that the strings are literally laying on top of the frets. The only reason the bass is still usable at all is because Phoenix uses distortion on Given Up, and it helps to hide the terrible buzzing noises the strings make. Here are some shots of what that bass looks like these days: http://instagram.com/p/QD_ZVizPKO/ http://instagram.com/p/Oo_XEpTPFv/ http://instagram.com/p/OmN-XqTPPc/ http://instagram.com/p/OW6aC5TPEV/

You're a little late, that already happened when New Divide became their biggest single in 8 years.

Red are a bunch of Linkin Park imitators in general. To the point that their idea of "promotion" was to have a bunch of their forum members sign up over at LPA and spam the Other Music forum with rave reviews about how they sounded just like Linkin Park. They literally think of it as a selling point. A bunch of Flobots fans did the same thing at one point.

To be fair, LP said the same thing about TF3 early on, that they hadn't been contacted about it and didn't anticipate doing anything for it. With that said, this doesn't really have a ton of significance, and apparently the author of the article thinks Steve Aoki is a member of Linkin Park.

The HTEP versions of Carousel and Part of Me are the earliest versions of those songs. They were subsequently re-arranged and re-recorded later for consideration on the full-length album. And One was re-arranged as well (the version that they performed live throughout 2000 and 2001), but for some reason they either didn't re-record that version or it just wasn't used on any of the demo CDs. I personally think there's an And One demo out there somewhere and it just hasn't been released.

It's hard to say what order things went in in terms of writing vs. recording. Slip/Blue/Esaul were all originally written when Mark was still in the band, and I believe the first sessions they did with Chester would've simply been them recording/re-recording existing material with their new singer. Those demos were probably done within the first couple months after Chester joined, with the HTEP recording done shortly afterwards. I've kind of split the early LP history into 5 phases, I'm not totally sure on all of the timeframes but I have a lot better idea of things now than I would have a year ago: Phase 1: late 1996-1998, possibly VERY early 1999 - Xero with Mark. Xero demo tape recorded, first few shows performed, discovery by Jeff Blue and subsequent Zomba publishing deal. Phase 2: March 1999-May 1999 (roughly) - Chester joins, band briefly still known as Xero. The LPUTV video "Perth Jam 1 - Xero Reborn" sheds some light on this, as Phoenix is playing a guitar part from an old Xero demo that Chester remembers singing on when they sent some early demo work to Don Gilmore. This basically confirms that Phoenix and Chester were in the band at the same time for a brief period before Phoenix left to tour with the Snax. Demos such as Slip, Blue, and Esaul recorded during this period. Phase 3: June 1999-December 1999 - "HTEP era." Phoenix leaves the band and is temporarily replaced by Kyle Christner, band officially changes name to Hybrid Theory. HTEP recorded/released during this time period, as well as many additional demos. Band plays occasional live shows during this period, and is signed to Warner at some point before the end of the year. Phase 4: January 2000-May 2000 - "HT recording era." Demos begin to transition into final album sessions. Band doesn't really have a bass player during this period, with Brad and session musicians handling bass tracks during recording sessions. Phase 5: Late May/Early June 2000-Late October 2000 - The "Scott era." Band officially changes name to Linkin Park sometime between 5/27 and 6/9, Hybrid Theory album sessions finished by mid-July. Band starts touring with Scott Koziol on bass, until Phoenix returns sometime in late October (unknown exact date, sometime between 10/11 and 10/24, as Scott played with them in Springfield but Phoenix was with them on the day of Hybrid Theory's release when the band was in Seattle).

Still waiting on this one...I've been VERY skeptical about it ever since it was first rumored.

This will be a fun thread to look back on in the near future.

Anything recorded during Mark's time in the band was done on Mike's Tascam 4-track recorder in his bedroom, which recorded directly to cassette. Save for programming done entirely on a computer/MPC samples, they wouldn't have had any means to transfer Xero's multitrack recordings into Pro Tools sessions later on. Other than stuff like Coal which consists entirely of samples and the LPU9 version of Stick and Move which is stripped down to just the beat and synth loop, anything leftover from the Xero era would have had to be re-recorded from scratch after Chester joined the band. It's basically impossible for a recording with both Mark and Chester's vocals on it to even exist. All of the singing vocals on Slip are definitely Chester. Chester joined the band in the spring of 1999. He recorded his audition tape on his 23rd birthday: March 20th, 1999. Xero's last known show with Mark was on December 12th, 1998. The notion of Chester joining in 1998 literally did not exist until the LPU11 CD was released, which erroneously labeled Slip and Blue as having been recorded in 1998. If you were to look at any "LP History" summary on any website prior to like 2010, the story of Chester joining in 1999 was never brought into question whatsoever. This was all discussed and clarified in this thread: http://lplive.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=10025 As well as in this interview with Chester: http://lplive.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=9888 And from all of the Xero show flyers Anna Shinoda posted a few months ago: http://lplive.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=10028 This really doesn't need to be clarified any further. Chester joined in 1999, Mike is wrong when he says otherwise, and any demo with Chester's vocals on it that's labeled as being from 1998 is incorrectly titled. Also, So Far Away has nothing to do with Carousel (I've never even seen that idea mentioned before...it DOES have a drum loop that was reused for Soundtrack though).

System of a Down - Jump. Doubt Chester was specifically referencing that song though.

Mike has stated that Slip and Blue (as well as the LPU 11 version of Esaul) were recorded during the first studio session the band did after Chester joined. Mark's name in the songwriting credits only has significance in terms of when those songs were written, not when they were recorded. The low part in So Far Away is Mike, 100%. I don't believe Mark even has a writing credit on that one.

They didn't add any effects to Chester's voice, the vocoder stuff from the album version is just part of the backing track used for live performances of this song. They basically pull up the Pro Tools session on Steve's laptop and mute Mike and Chester's vocal tracks, and that's the live performance. Oh, and Steve presses a couple buttons during the last 5 seconds of the song to make some noises.

Nothing from the Hybrid Theory era unless it's a completely unheard recording. Nothing from the Minutes to Midnight era unless it's a musically extraordinary track in comparison to the plethora of other demos from that period that we've received. I'd really like to hear some ATS demos, as it's now the album we have the least amount of "extra" material from. I was SHOCKED that we got a bunch of Living Things stuff on this year's CD. More Meteora stuff would be cool, particularly since we just found out a bunch of new Meteora working titles.

They probably just referred to the "joined" demos as Apaches prior to the song getting its final title. Also, they only referred to the live WFTE intro as "Apaches intro" at the beginning of the Living Things cycle. Their more recent setlists just call it "U.I.B. intro." Pretty sure those aren't live strings. Also, I got around to comparing Universe with Resurrection. They're ALMOST the same, but Resurrection is about 10 seconds longer. They extended it by an extra 4 bars during Lupe's verse. Some of the volume levels on the instrumental sound different too, the guitar is REALLY clear when it first comes in during the second chorus on Universe, but it's practically impossible to hear at that point on Resurrection, it's really only noticeable during the outro on that version.

I have a feeling the Machine Shop Mixtape thing might have gotten derailed because of the lawsuit between the band and Warner, that was right around the period that it took place. I kind of wonder if maybe the band gave up the rights to some of their unreleased music as part of their new deal with WB. It's kind of odd that all of the post-Meteora/pre-Minutes to Midnight demos we've gotten were from 2006 or later (with the lone exception of Divided), when we know that the band was recording demos on their tour bus throughout 2004, and also recorded a bunch of stuff in 2005 in between Mike's Fort Minor tours.

Good call on that one, the word "resolution" never even popped into my mind, I didn't think there was anything else it could be. *Edit* I THINK the last of the 3 songs at the top of the list is "Cuidado." If anybody else remembers, that's a word that showed up on the Meteora "art wall," and was subsequently part of the stage backdrop for a lot of the 2003-2004 tours.

^I always thought it was incredibly odd how much Phoenix's account of the Machine Shop Mixtape song differs from the one Mike gave us. Phoenix in 2005: "Song's finished and coming out soon, instrumental recorded in 3 days in studio, vocals finished at home." Mike in 2009 or whenever it was he was asked about it: "Went to studio, tried to record song, whole thing fell apart, idea abandoned." I'm FAIRLY convinced that these are two entirely different songs being discussed. Phoenix's account of it was written shortly after it was recorded, and it was scheduled to be coming out on a compilation, the compilation just never happened. Mike's account of it was years later...and we all know how faulty his memory can be.

Here's what I on that studio board from Making of Meteora: ??? ??? ??? - possibly "Cuidado," but hard to be certain. Pretty Birdie - written as "Birdie" as opposed to "Birdy" like it appears on LPU 13. Shifter Serpent - or possibly Quotient, definitely ends in "-ent." Definitely not "Softcut." Nocturnal Session Resolution - I'm absolutely 100% positive on this. Definitely not "Rewritten." Faint Sick Plaster II - Positive on this one as well. Reusing a working title from an old song as a joke is totally something the band would do too. Nursery - or possibly Hearsay. Could really be either one, but I'm pretty sure it's one or the other. Drawing Figure.09 The 3 top ones are never shown very clearly, and I can't make them out at all. What's interesting though is that there are 15 tracks on the board in total, with 12 of them grouped together. We all know Foreword was a last-minute addition to the album, so it wouldn't have been on that board. It's VERY likely that the 3 at the top had already been eliminated from consideration at that point, and the bottom 12 could be the same 12, minus Foreword, that the final tracklisting consisted of. There are a few potential exceptions though. Numb was written very late in the writing/recording process, so it may not have been on the board yet. Nobody's Listening was finished during the mixing phase of the album, so it may not be on the board, but that seems very unlikely, as Somewhere I Belong was also finished during mixing, and Pretty Birdie is on the board. Advance copies of the Meteora album artwork sent out to the Linkin Park Street Team also omitted Hit the Floor from the tracklisting, so there's a small possibility that it wouldn't be on the board either, although I personally think that was just an artwork error, as that song was recorded at the same time as the rest of the album (a short clip of it being recorded at NRG is present either on the Making of Meteora DVD or one of the LPTV episodes, I can't remember which). The most significant thing about this discovery is that if those 12 songs are indeed the ones that made the album, that means the long-sought-after Shifter and Nocturnal are actually working titles for songs that made the album! I also find it interesting that NONE of the Meteora-era demos we've gotten on LPU CDs over the past few years are present, even in the top 3 spots (none of the titles really match up visually, even if those top 3 can't exactly be made out). You'd think A.06 would be on there at the very least, considering the short version of it was used in several Meteora promotional videos. That would also mean that there are at least 3 more tracks from Meteora that we don't have at all. One is probably the "thoughts that take away my pride" song, another is probably the song with the piano and guitar that's heard while Rob is tracking drums. The third...who knows! So if someone ever actually ever bothers to ask Mike about Nocturnal and Shifter (seriously, WHY has this not happened yet in the 10+ years we've known of the existence of these song titles?!?!), he'll probably clear it right up for us. If they're just working titles for songs we already have, he wouldn't have any reason to be secretive about them.

Wien setlist from 3/9 isn't in the correct order ("nicht die genaue Reihenfolge" = "not the exact order"). Probably the exact same setlist they used the next day in Munich and for most of the rest of the tour, as it's the same 10 songs and they definitely didn't open with Papercut at any point on that tour. I also almost guarantee that Stephen Richards actually came out on APFMH, not Forgotten. He came out on APFMH on the Street Soldier tour earlier in the year, and with the corrected setlist order, those two songs would have been back-to-back before OSC at the end of the show. With the way those songs flow together on Hybrid Theory, they were VERY commonly mistaken for each other in the early days.

Pretty Birdy clearly has live drums on it, so it's in "Stage 2." Not necessarily at the END of Stage 2. Or they could have muted out the vocals if they didn't feel they were good enough to release, as we've suspected about numerous other LPU tracks from 2010-present. Also, judging from Mike's "Universe never got vocals" comment...wow. The guy clearly forgot that Resurrection even exists. Pretty embarrassing, considering that track was just released in 2010...

It could be worse. It was literally IMPOSSIBLE to get front row tickets for a lot of big 70s/80s rock bands for many years because they'd reserve the front row tickets, never put them on sale, and then give them out as comp tickets to hot women on the night of the show, so every time a photo/video would show the audience, it would give the illusion that women were flocking to the band in droves. Seriously. Common practice for 20+ years for every band from KISS to Poison, Van Halen to Motley Crue.

http://vimeo.com/79540104 - Ignoring the fact that they literally uploaded the same video twice with different background music...LPU 13 launches on the 18th...video promoting key portion of LPU 13 posted on the 19th, with background music that is nowhere to be found on the new LPU CD. Yay for something else to add to the Lost Songs thread! *Edit* It's in this video too: http://vimeo.com/79537910 Maybe it's not an LP song at all?