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There was an interview around the time Living Things came out that mentioned them having one in the studio, but that's the first time I've actually seen it myself. It's one of Ethan Mates' guitars.

I established that that picture is from Docklands 2001 a while ago. And looking at it again, it's also in 720x480 resolution, so it's probably another old linkinpark.com photo like the others posted here. Note the small black bars on either side, just like of all of the photos in this thread. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b168/bul...ewebs/b11-1.jpg These are probably screenshots from Fiore's archives that were posted on the website towards the end of the Hybrid Theory touring cycle. They all seem to be from September of 2001 or later.

I think those short instrumental demos (Oh No/Sad/Stick and Move) probably date from the "interim period" between Mark electing not to continue with the band, and the band finding a new singer. They're all basically just beats that Mike and/or Joe could've cooked up with an MPC or an old Mac. Not sure why Coal is the only one specifically labeled as being from '97 though, they must have had some solid reason that they knew it was older than the others.

Without having looked into this much, it's not from Colorado Springs 2002, but it might be from an LPTV episode or one of the LPU intro videos.

I suppose that's a possibility, as the HTEP songs had higher production values than any of the demos. I'd just find it odd if they left Dedicated off of their debut EP in favor of a short little filler track like Technique.

Mike E. probably recorded his guitar part on Wake Me Up while Incubus was on tour with LP last summer. Mike S. would've been the most logical person around to handle the recording.

...Did you really just resurrect a thread from July of 2009 to post this?

I would think She Couldn't is a post-HTEP song, because it was on the 8-track demo CD with the post-HTEP demos of Carousel and Part of Me. They didn't seem to be using any of their first batch of demos on any of the internal promo discs (hence why we never knew that songs like Slip and Blue existed, or that there was a studio recording of the version of APFMH from Frat Party), so I think that one's a bit later than some of the others. Dedicated is such an oddball song, I'm very reluctant to try to put a date on it. It wasn't on any promo discs, so it could be a pre-HTEP demo, but its sound quality is superior to basically every other demo from the entire Hybrid Theory era that was actually a "demo" (not stuff like the 6-track promo with the alternate versions of Papercut, With You, etc.). I've suspected for years that Dedicated had some "touch-up" work done to it between when it was originally recorded and when it was released on the LPU 2.0 CD. Mike's vocals in particular sound a lot more "professional" than they do on any of the demo recordings. Given how opposed both the band and Warner were to releasing demos during the early years, it wouldn't surprise me at all if Dedicated was at least partially re-recorded while the band was working on Reanimation/early material for Meteora. They obviously didn't JUST record A.06 around that period.

"Special Guests" = Bands/artists playing the show that weren't mentioned in the original announcement (Bad Religion, potentially others).

Tempo-wise, the most noteworthy things are the songs at 170-200 BPM. That's VERY fast. Obviously that may not be an indicator of overall "feel," depending on the mood of the music or how they sub-divide the notes (one of the fastest LP songs tempo-wise is actually Breaking the Habit, believe it or not), but usually stuff that has a half-time feel will just be written that way for the sake of not having a million measures crammed into a song (85-100 BPM). The tracks with BPMs that aren't a multiple of 5 are also odd, most musicians tend to round to the nearest 5 when calculating BPMs just because it makes for simpler math if they want to manually move stuff around from beat to beat. Keys don't really mean a lot, LP's written in a lot of different keys. Their two most commonly used ones over the past two albums have been A minor and D minor. The different "modes" just refer to different scales used in the root key. For example, D Phrygian is based off of the D minor scale, but the second scale degree is flattened. So instead of a D minor scale: D E F G A Bb C D You get this instead: D Eb F G A Bb C D The phrygian mode was a pretty commonly-used thing in early Linkin Park songs. One Step Closer and Figure.09 come to mind. Again, not something that can really be used to determine what a song's going to sound like. I think the most significant thing this shows is that they have at least 24 different demos in play at this point. Album's definitely still far from done.

That was a fake one that made the rounds a LONG time ago, around the end of the Meteora period (2004-early 2005, pre-Fort Minor). I haven't heard it in ages and can't remember who it's actually by, but I remember it being a really short (~1:30) song. By the way, I figure it's probably a good idea to point out that the pre-Hybrid Theory Xero isn't the only band to have gone by the name "Xero." There's a Cleveland, OH-based metal band called Xero that released a bunch of demos/EPs in the early 2000s, there's an Irish band by the same name that released a CD in 2006, and there was an old British heavy metal band called Xero that was active in the 70s and 80s...they most notably had a song called "Lone Wolf" which featured a then-unknown Bruce Dickinson on vocals.

I really wish people like you would just quit existing. It'd help my blood pressure tremendously.

The list of songs played live has had those 2 versions listed separately for a while, it just hasn't been updated on LPL in over 2 years because they want to wait until 5.0 is done I guess.

It was "Hard Life," not "Half Life."

They've been talking about releasing Tomorrow as a third single, so I wouldn't be surprised to see that one added, possibly mid-tour like Black Heart was.

Probably means they'll televise 30 seconds of one song during a news report and then tease us for the next 10 years by using clips of the concert footage as background stuff in all kinds of news releases, but never actually release the concert. It is an MFR concert, after all.

The underlying instumental kind of just rides on top of an arpeggiated A major thing for most of that section, the "chord changes" are mostly just implied by the vocal harmonies. It switches to a suspended E voicing on "time has torn the flesh away," I think it's an Esus2?

I don't have n00b LP moments. I create them.

You obviously don't realize the historical trend of n00b LP fans (un-ironically) spelling "Habit" as "Habbit" dating back 10 and a half years. It was one of the ways you could instantly and accurately judge someone's intelligence level on the old LP.com message boards. It was like a meme before anybody actually used the word "meme." Whether intentional on Infected Mushroom's part or not, it's VERY reasonable for a Linkin Park fan to instantly facepalm at "Habbit."

Why is the date in the title of the thread 07.05.2013?

The piano in the original video Lee posted is, at the very least, a re-recording of Wisdom, Justice, and Love. It's the same chord progression, same key, same tempo as the original A Thousand Suns recording. It's not good enough quality to actually compare them side by side and see if it uses the "authentic" Linkin Park instrumental, but it's definitely the same song.

They were only scheduled to play an hour, so I doubt they played their usual set.

^Thank god none of you guys replied that it was by No Doubt. I think I would've had a stroke.

The buzzing during the Roxy performance is static from an improperly connected guitar cable/poorly-grounded power supply or something like that. It's only present when Brad's not playing anything.

The beat from the intro to Papercut is played quietly during the whispered section ( ), that's probably what you're hearing. The static from Part of Me does have a kind of similar rhythm to the Papercut drum loop.