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BASS GTR CHORD SYNTH DBLS E GUITAR FX BGS HARM BGS HARMS HI LO SYNTH LEAD VOCALS LFO BASS PRINT MAIN SYNTH SIREN SYNTH VOCODER They're all in .aif format. Always puzzled me that certain elements of the song (some of the vocal parts and all of the percussion components) weren't present in the stems...

Mid-October of 2005, a little less than two weeks before We Major was released. Street Team members got their packages on different days so pinning down an exact date isn't really possible, but the thread on LPA about it is dated October 16th.

What We Don't Know? Pretend to Be? Blue? Slip? Dedicated? Standing in the Middle? QWERTY studio version? I Have Not Begun? So Far Away? The two LPU Sessions songs? Chance of Rain? If it's a full-length song with completed lyrics and isn't an earlier version of an album song, it's still a finished song...saying otherwise is like saying the tracks on the HTEP are "unfinished." Some of the instrumentals may have been intended to be instrumentals all along as well (Announcement Service Public and Pale come to mind), in which case they'd be finished too. And What We Don't Know is a 100% completed honest-to-goodness Minutes to Midnight b-side, just like No Roads Left, Blackbirds, and Across the Line. It was mixed by Neal Avron for potential album inclusion and didn't make the final tracklisting. Also, Chester sounds "different" on this because he isn't Auto Tuned all to hell like he is on the albums. No point in doing a bunch of extra vocal production on a demo with like 4 lines of lyrics and a scat chorus.

Never Let Me Down was originally recorded for Kenna's album Make Sure They See My Face, but didn't make the cut. He was originally going to release an EP of outtakes from those sessions that included that song, but that never happened and the track ended up on D2D instead. It was co-produced by Mike and Chad Hugo from the Neptunes, so it was never in consideration as a Linkin Park track unlike Resurrection.

I figured when they said bi-monthly, they meant it would go January, March, etc., so this is a pleasant surprise. Sounds like it may be the best demo of the bunch so far.

Mike.

I don't think we know for sure that it exists, but System of a Down filmed their music video for War? at that performance, so more of the show may have been filmed. There's a full SOAD proshot from a Whiskey performance in '97, but it wasn't the same show.

Newsreel-style footage filmed from between the barricade and the stage during the first couple songs, standard practice. 99.9% chance the whole show wasn't filmed (people with media passes are only allowed down there for the first 2 or 3 songs of a show). There are clips like this of probably dozens of shows without actual video sources. This makes photo hunting for my guitar website tricky, because nearly every professional photo you see from a show comes from the first 10 minutes of the performance.

Yes, Robot Boy is in 5.1, it splits into six individual tracks when I open it in my DAW. Session 5.1 was in the Live in Texas credits, although it seems like it was just up-converted from a stereo mix rather than being a true 5.1 mix using the original stems. Not a lot of variance between channels on that one.

Great, Mike sounds completely unsure that Animals is actually related to Roads Untraveled in any way, but you know people are going to take it as gospel and consider it the demo version of that song... One of the Living Things behind the scenes videos has a part where Mike's going through numerous songs and referring to them by both their working titles and their final titles - "Battle Axe is Victimized, Holding Company is Lost in the Echo...Roads Untraveled is Roads Untraveled." Also, samples from Animals AND Roads Untraveled were released for Stagelight, and they were labeled with separate titles. Most of the other samples from songs that made it to an album were released under their demo titles, so you'd think if there was any relationship between the two they'd have had a common title. I know non-4/4 time signatures are uncommon for you Mike, but saying Animals is a Roads Untraveled demo is like saying From the Inside is a Roads Untraveled demo. I didn't get an email...

Heh, a copy-paste of an old LPMB post of mine...obviously some of that info is out of date now, and I was flat-out wrong about the POA demo being on the Little Nicky soundtrack.

The band uses all kinds of cheat sheets. Brad's had them for New Divide, Jornada del Muerto, Castle of Glass, and the drum/keyboard parts on Blackout over the years. Chester was using a lyric sheet for Guilty All the Same early in the THP cycle too. Frankenstein...Halloween show. It's the first image that pops up on Google Images when you search "Frankenstein."

Just like how the voice sample at the end of Don't Stay/beginning of Somewhere I Belong is somehow from Pictureboard, right? Where do you pull this shit from?

Let's be honest, is there anyone (other than the delusional inhabitants of Below Empty - "The world has lost the last legendary rock n' roll frontman" - seriously?) who DIDN'T see this coming a mile away? Most predictable premature rockstar death of my lifetime, for sure. It's sad...and not really in the "I'm heartbroken" kind of way, but more in the "what a waste" kind of way. My condolences to his family and those he was still close to.

If you're listening to a Youtube stream, the person who uploaded it is the one who did the pirating, not you. If you already bought the fucking CD and are just looking for a download of it to hold you over because LPU stupidly didn't offer a digital copy to people who purchased it, that's LPU's problem, not yours. And Flame XIII literally pointed out that they didn't like the physical package items, so they preferred the digital membership. Not sure what you're taking away from that post. Sorry, but you ARE overreacting, because as far as I see, you didn't even cite anything that actually constitutes "piracy." If you really think listening to a stream of something you already legally purchased is wrong, I don't think there's advice in the world that can help you.

Why not? There are two versions of the song with different vocal tracks. What's to say that the first vocal track that wasn't used on the Mall soundtrack wasn't recorded during the MTM sessions, and the second vocal track was recorded during the ATS sessions? It's entirely possible that the song wasn't revised at all beyond where it was during the ATS period when it was released on the soundtrack. There isn't really an "early version" of Blackbirds, they didn't work on that song at all after MTM was finished like they did with Not Alone and Pretend to Be. The version that was released is the same as the "2007 version." As far as I'm concerned, No Roads Left, Blackbirds, Across the Line, What We Don't Know, and Ammosick are the 5 b-sides, which bring us to a total of 17 tracks. The only question is whether the total was actually 17 or 18, since it seems iffy as to whether the band included Wake in the total. Chance of Rain is the best candidate for a last b-side that we've heard, being that it has Chester on it and finished lyrics, but it sounds very unfinished instrumentally, and it's notably dated as being from 2006, which would seem to put it earlier in the process than No Roads Left, What We Don't Know, or Across the Line, which have all been labeled as being from 2007.

Barack Your World was all Mike and Mark, the "band member names" were just for the puppets in the music video. Mike played all the guitar and bass parts, and the drums are programmed.

No. Just no. Why do some people think every demo have to be a demo for something else even if it has nothing whatsoever in common with anything else?

We didn't last year either.

That's a bass guitar, so that's not Jason.

You should. They always add additional membership lengths to your original subscription date, so the 30 days should give you a month past when your old expiration was, then the full membership should give you a full year past that. I used to renew when LPU launched every year, but through a few 30-day trial codes and a gift membership I got at one point, I've managed to push my expiration almost a full year out (it was originally in late November, now it's in early October).

Where do you stream the back catalog of LPU CDs? I can only find the preview clips in the Discography section that have been there for a while. The Discography section also erroneously lists Animals as a 2001 demo, lol.

Yes/no. Bravado makes a bunch of the LP merchandise you see in stores like Hot Topic, mainly t-shirts. I've seen these in stores before, I forget how much they were but they were cheap. So they're officially licensed, but they aren't anything like the stage picks, they're just collector's items.

Nope, Inside Stuff aired weekly so we'd have to sift through a ton of episodes from probably the 1996-2000 era just to be safe, and I don't know of any way of finding all of those episodes archived anywhere. Interesting that the BMI entry that listed them is gone after being on there for many years though...I cross-checked it from the band members' individual entries just in case the catalog number changed or something, but it really is gone. Also Mike's BMI page was updated slightly recently to include the theme song he did for This is Life with Lisa Ling - there's one entry for "BG Cues" like there is for other shows, but there's also an entry for a song just called "This is Life," so I guess we can confirm that it didn't have a different title. Still hoping we get that song someday.

THP was a huge step in the right direction compression-wise. Tracking all the drums on tape gave them a ton more headroom to work with after they transferred the tracks to the computer.