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inb4 someone inevitably says No Doubt covered One Step Closer or Amy Lee covered Numb...

It's fake and originates from the period when Bruiser was known to exist but nobody had it yet because it was only available by buying one of the ridiculously expensive Dell Linkin Park Edition computers that came bundled with Open Labs software (this predated the release of Stagelight). There were a bunch of fake Bruiser tracks going around and this was one of them.

Every other Meteora demo to this point (that's had a date put on it) was consistently labeled as 2002 though. It's one thing to be consistently wrong about 1998 vs. 1999 with Hybrid Theory demos, but it'd be odd for them to switch at this point. LP was definitely recording on tour during the Meteora period: http://www.mtv.com/news/1490099/linkin-park-cook-up-collaborations-new-album-on-tour/ Mike also goes off on a tangent about songs not making the cut and being revisited later on in the track-by-track video for this song...yeah, the song may have had attempts at vocal treatments, but that doesn't mean they necessarily happened in 2003. We admittedly know VERY little about LP's writing/recording output between the release of Meteora and the start of the MTM sessions in 2006. Also keep in mind that this could easily be a Mike Shinoda solo demo that they arbitrarily decided to release under the Linkin Park name years later, like Universe.

Huh, that quiet guitar part that comes in way in the background about halfway through Issho Ni really does sound like it may have been sampled from this track. Hard to say that with certainty, though. Even if it is sampled, I wouldn't really call this a demo of Issho Ni based on that because every other aspect of the two songs is different. That'd be like saying High Voltage is a demo of Nobody's Listening.

I think when Mike says that the song sounds like it came from a "later batch," he's specifically referring to it not sounding like a typical Meteora song. The guitar in particular sounds more like a Minutes to Midnight era thing. Entirely possible that the 2003 date is correct and that this isn't even a Meteora demo, if it was a home studio thing Mike could've thrown this together while at home between tours. Keep in mind they were off for two months from late April until late June because of Chester's medical problems.

Yes. The soundcheck process is split into two parts, soundchecking the PA system and soundchecking the stage. The crew soundchecks the instruments on stage in typical fashion (example HERE), but the PA system is checked with existing recordings because it eliminates all of the variables you deal with in a real live situation. This is why all of the live shows are still being recorded even though the DSP program was discontinued. LP has been soundchecking the PA system in this manner ever since Pooch became their FOH engineer in 2007. Look up "Behind the Live Sound of Linkin Park’s Hunting Party Tour" on Youtube, the way Pooch and Tater go through multitracks of recordings from rehearsals and live shows throughout that series is exactly the same thing they do when they soundcheck the PA.

The song with Billy GIbbons was La Grange...a.k.a. probably ZZ Top's most famous song of their career...

Fully digital? Start of the Hunting Party tour in 2014 when they switched to the Axe-FX II setup (which was originally designed and supposed to be integrated during the Living Things tours, but it didn't come together in time). They've been using amp modeling to some extent since 2007 though, which was when they started using the Randall MTS preamps as a means of covering the Mesa/Marshall tones from Hybrid Theory and Meteora as well as the Soldano, Hiwatt, and other various amp sounds introduced on Minutes to Midnight.

They soundcheck the PA system using recordings of previous shows.

That's the Cleveland Public Auditorium at the main convention center. The construction of the archways in the roof and the circular brooch patterns on the pillars in between the tiered seating sections are a dead giveaway, you can see them in the Periscope video. Compare to pictures here: https://www.google.com/search?q=cleveland+convention+center+public+auditorium&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjtg8HYs4rOAhUM2SYKHQjbCtUQ_AUICigD&biw=1366&bih=631 (Also, I grew up in the Cleveland area and have been in that building numerous times, I knew it as soon as I saw the video)

Yeah, that was a big downside to the "new official" FM channel being a takeover of a fan-based channel - a lot of the videos on there weren't the highest-quality sources, and they never bothered to replace them with better ones. Numb/Encore's blocked in the U.S. too. Probably German-exclusive on that channel. The Blackbirds "video" is the context in which the song was presented in 8-Bit Rebellion - when you beat the game, you got that photo collage of studio stuff with Blackbirds as the background music as a reward.

They aren't credited as co-writers or co-producers on Things in My Jeep, so if there was instrumental input it was very minimal. That guitar part that comes in during the last section really sounds like something Mike would have done, though. DJ Exclusive's "Dretox" mixtape that was supposed to be a prelude to Dr. Dre's "Detox" album...which never came out. It was basically just an unofficial compilation of remixes.

Crawling wasn't played live at all in 2000, so if that set's correct, it has to be from sometime in 2001. I have a feeling these are both fake, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMScMitzdKc You can see the headstock/neck of the bass on the right side at 0:37 and 0:47. Camera just never pans far enough over to see whoever's playing bass. It's probably not Scott though, it's a 4-string bass with 2 tuning pegs on each side of the headstock. Scott played a Sadowsky bass with all 4 tuning pegs on one side.

Awesome performance by Joe - pushing play on that backing track and then standing there doing nothing like a BOSS.

It's a result of how circumstances played out in the years since the DMCA went into effect in 1998. That was at a time when the primary concern was peer-to-peer filesharing, and people couldn't have ever predicted the rise of streaming services or how to handle them in regards to copyright law. Creators want to get paid for their content being on these services, but the vast majority of the people who use them don't pay for premium accounts, so the only money that really comes in from free users comes from ad revenue...and it's damn near impossible to make a worthwhile amount of money off of ad revenue because so many people run ad blockers, and even the ones that don't rarely click on ads anyway. I think what people ultimately want is compensation for streams from non-premium accounts that isn't based on ad revenue...which yeah, would definitely make them more money, but I think ultimately if musicians and these companies worked together to convince more people to sign up for premium subscriptions, that would generate a better source of revenue for everybody involved, rather than it being another round of "Creator vs. Streaming Service."

They want a bigger chunk of the ad revenue, in most cases. Ad-based streaming services don't pay out crap to songwriters. The whole reason people re-negotiated with YouTube and started allowing their stuff to be posted was because they were basically told that between revenue sharing/royalty payments via the Content ID system and YouTube's upcoming premium service (YouTube Red), there would be a lot more money to be had in free streaming platforms. It just hasn't worked out that way...some of my LP-related YouTube videos are actually eligible for revenue sharing on my end, and I was surprised when I started making like 7 or 8 cents per ad click once I tried out the monetization feature. I know for a fact that the songwriters aren't getting anywhere near that much per stream of their work...I obviously don't mind being able to make a little bit of money doing what I'm doing, but I sure as hell shouldn't be making more than the people who actually wrote the damn songs in the first place. It's really screwed up.

Robin Finck plays guitar, not drums...he took over for Gilby Clarke for the last 5 songs. Not sure why both the list of band members here and the show page list him as playing drums. Joey Castillo played drums for the whole show. Kind of hoping this becomes a semi-regular thing for Chester, I miss the days when we could count on him doing a few Camp Freddy appearances every year. He always sounds great. I think the reason Bucket of Weenies sounded so bad was that other than maybe Sean, all of them were always absolutely trashed when they performed.

Assuming it was the literal president of WBR at the time, it would have been Phil Quartararo, who was the president from 1997 until Tom Whalley took over in 2001.

3 vouchers and 3 pairs of tickets for me. Huh. Absolutely nothing in the state of Minnesota on the list of eligible events, though. I'll keep checking back periodically.

I was one of the people who opted in to the class-action lawsuit, so I received legal correspondence emails throughout the process. Scratching my head about the free tickets being added, because all the information I ever received was that you'd get one voucher for $2.25 for each transaction you made with Ticketmaster during the period covered by the lawsuit. Never heard anything about free tickets.

BTW, "Blasko" doesn't have a C in his stage name.

!!!!!!! Hole in the Sky is hands-down my favorite Black Sabbath song in their entire discography. This is awesome.

If they're really scraping the bottom of the barrel THIS bad at this point (we all know there's better stuff in the vault, but it's becoming clear that they can't/won't release a large portion of it for whatever reason), I feel like it's probably about time that they went back to the 6-track EP format of the first 6 LPU CDs. I'd take that and knocking the price down a bit over stuff like this coming out every other month. I'll be honest, I haven't found a single LPU track to actually be memorable since LPU 13. It's been a really bad dry spell...

No, it IS "Hot Karl." Jensen Karp = Hot Karl. People need to do 30 seconds of research before making posts and/or editing thread titles.