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Sweet dude. I know Mark and some others are also going to this show, maybe we should get a little LPLive Meetup going.

Wow, surprised not many of you like it. I love this track, has a great vibe and Mike sounds incredible on it. So far for me: 1. One More Light 2. Talking To Myself 3. Invisible 4. Heavy 5. Battle Symphony 6. Good Goodbye EDIT: these are my full thoughts on the song.

I wrote this originally as part of the thread but we took it out for the sake of being quick and to the point. Luckily, this post doesn't have to be brief. This is an editorial on the state of Ticketmaster and the ticketing economy in terms of everything going on with it, even beyond this pre-sale. Enjoy. ------------ Ticketmaster has proved time and time again that they truly one of the most deplorable companies to ever exist. Let's step back from the disaster of this pre-sale and look at them as a whole. Expensive ticket prices are understandable. People have to get paid, production needs to be covered, venue needs a share - we get it. Having to pay an additional fee that's a substantial percent of your ticket to Ticketmaster (disguised as a "venue" or "service" fee, or something along those lines)? Disgusting. What we have here is a nearly total monopoly of the ticketing franchise in North America (and probably beyond, but I only know as far as in terms of the United States). Ticketmaster is allowed to get away with ridiculous fees and inflating ticket prices because they own nearly every major amphitheater in the United States, thanks to its 2010 merger with Live Nation (who, by association, are also fucks). Any amphitheater you can think of, Ticketmaster probably has a stake in it. In order to keep those venues running, they have a service fee that comes with every ticket. Also understandable, as these places need to be kept going for running. What isn't understandable is how every single ticket purchased by every single person comes with an minimum of $20 service fee. What isn't understandable is how even after being sued for this, they continue to be able to ruin the magic of going to a show. I bought tickets for West Palm Beach and Tampa today, and I had to worry about a lot of things. Let's start small, with this pre-sale itself. Firstly, I had to worry about being able to use my pre-sale code whatsoever. I'm from New Jersey, so I was in line for the Flushing show, but I learned after the dates were announced that I wouldn't be able to go to any of the shows in my area because I'll be on the west coast. For reasons that will not be said (at the moment), going to a show on this tour poses something really awesome, so my family and I decided to go to Florida for a vacation to coincide with the shows. I was, at the peak of things, #13 in the entire NY area for the presale, so I wasn't about to give that up and change my location (I ended at #55, which is still pretty damn good). Thanks to the lack of communication on the pre-sale management side, I wasn't even sure if I would be able to buy tickets in the first place. Luckily, I was able to, which brings me to the second point of worry: actually purchasing the tickets. I needed to buy 3 tickets for each show: one for me, my dad, and my sister. I went for the West Palm Beach show first. I had brought my laptop to school just to buy the tickets, and lo-and-behold, the promised "four tickets per code" had turned to two, as that was the most amount of seats I could select. Whatever, I'd just buy one separately. I was able to secure some great seats for WPB, but at a cost - literally. The two initial tickets I bought cost me almost $300. The seat themselves were $117 each - so for the seats I paid $237. That means I paid $60 in fees alone, or $30 per seat. $300 for two seats, and I still had four more to purchase? Oh boy. I managed to get all the seats I wanted to buy (I have front section seats in West Palm Beach and seats behind the mixing board in Tampa, which were about $30 less), with everything coming out to be between $700 and $800. For two shows. How much of that is fees? Roughly $360. I understand that maintaining a venue must be hard work and definitely must be costly, especially considering how many they have to keep up. But now consider this: how many people are buying tickets daily to these hundreds of venues across the country? Can you imagine how much they make from just these goddamned fees? I don't know how much it is to maintain a venue, but I know for a fact that after collecting all of these fees since 1971 and still being able to stand so confidently, they are overdoing it. This monopoly hasn't gone unheard, but the victories in the rebellion against it were only brief. Allow me to bring some APUSH knowledge into this, to help explain how blasphemous this is: the Sherman Antitrust Act. In the 1880s and 1890s, many businesses were building monopolies, finding ways to essentially eliminate any other small competitors in the process. The Sherman Antitrust Act stopped one of such ways of eliminating smaller businesses: by manipulating prices of the major brand such that they will be lower than the competition, and then once the competition goes out of business, to raise the price again. Ticketmaster was, in fact, sued over the fact that their practices did not fall in line with the Sherman Antitrust Act in 2003, and lost the case, though the settlement was never made public and it's still uncertain how it affected them. The act also stipulates that an "innocent monopoly," or one that is created by having actual quality above the rest, is perfectly fine. The sad part is, that isn't what's happening here. Ticketmaster has effectively recreated this scenario, though in different terms: it's not that they lower prices to eliminate competition (ha, lowering ticket prices. funny jokes). It's that they have eliminated any possibility of competition whatsoever. They own a huge majority of the venues in the United States, so they have exclusive access to pretty much all of the ticket sales for all of them. The bigger venues they don't hold will go to Ticketmaster to drive sales, because they are the only available market out there. The closest thing Ticketmaster has to competition is scalpers, which is a whole other argument. Ticketmaster hasn't come out of this monopoly unscathed, but they've found ways around it. Many of you may remember when Ticketmaster lost a lawsuit in 2013 (Schlesinger v Ticketmaster, which began in 2003), which was filled against them for not explaining their excessive fees. As a settlement, Ticketmaster issued out $2.25 vouchers for those who bought tickets via their website over a decade and a half prior. On the grand scheme of things, it definitely took a bite out of the company, but they were able to heal quickly. A maximum of 17 vouchers were issued per person, and you could only use one per ticket (so, if you hit the max, you had $38.25 to spend on tickets, but not all at once). Additionally, there were only select shows that the vouchers could be used for. Those vouchers expire some time in 2020, but don't hold your breath: the list of shows that were applicable hasn't been updated since they actually made the list in 2015. Even looking at how Ticketmaster has tried to appear more fan-oriented will show that they truly don't know how to do things right. The system that this pre-sale used has been in practice for a few months now - the Verified Fan Presale. I first encountered it earlier this year when Muse and Thirty Seconds To Mars announced a tour together, because all of you who know me knows I wouldn't be missing that. From that starting experience until now, this presale system has always proven to be a disaster. The day of the Muse presale, I didn't receive my pre-sale code until two hours after it had started (they hadn't made the "group" concept public). The presale promised that the band's truest fans to get first access to tickets; after the pre-sale happened, it became clear this wasn't the case. New fans who had signed up hours before got their codes at the start, while fans who signed up early (including one guy who was a fan since 2005) were left waiting in confusion. This has only continued from there - I'm still waiting for my Ed Sheeran pre-sale code that I signed up for a few months ago. Long-story short, Ticketmaster is the epitome of capitalism gone rogue. They are allowed to exist with their corrupt monopoly without any competition or anyone fighting against them, and unfortunately things aren't going to change. If this pre-sale has proved anything, it's that everything Ticketmaster does is either a faulty system or a corrupt bargain. This forum post really sums it all up, and you don't even know how many times the announcement of this North American tour was pushed back, just for this to happen. We need change, but we can't get it if we don't fight it.

New setlist! 1) Talking To Myself 2) Burn It Down

Won't be in any of the northeast shows, but I'll see whoever's going to Tampa and West Palm Beach

"one substantially shortened song in the entire set."

I'd also like to point out there's only one substantially shortened song in the entire set. Catalyst is barely noticeable save for its breakdown and Crawling is how it's been played for the past few months. You truly love complaining for the sake of complaining, my man.

Thanks for the love on the post guys, feels good to be back. I definitely think there'll be a few differences in this set. I told Mike on Twitter via the LPL Twitter to throw some APFMH action in there, so let's hope we see a bit of that

Holy. Shit. Linkin Park is back (and so are my pre-show posts), ladies and gentlemen, and they're bigger than ever. The One More Light World Tour has officially kicked off, and the band is ready to keep rolling! The second show of the tour is taking the band to Santiago, Chile at the Movistar Arena on May 9 with special guest Rise Against opening for them. This show in Chile will only be the band's second show there. Funny enough, the band's first and only other show in Chile was also the second show of their world tour (ignoring the promo performances), only back in 2010 it was for the A Thousand Suns Tour. All the same, it was a pretty great show: the band headlined the Maquinara Festival with acts like Queens Of The Stone Age and the Cavalera Conspiracy, their set full of new material. Big tracks like 'When They Come For Me' and 'Wretches and Kings' were fresh off the burner, with older tracks filling in the gaps between. This show also featured the third and final time 'What I've Done' ever closed a setlist, after closing the two shows before. 'Bleed It Out' returned as set closer at the following show. A fun fact, about the show, too: the band actually had to stop DJ Erol Alkan's set on another stage because his sound was interfering with theirs. Show them who's boss, LP. The A Thousand Suns era really came with some good sets: watch this unforgettable opener at Santiago 2010, 'The Requiem,' 'The Radiance,' and 'Wretches and Kings' bringing the show to a rocking start. We're not in 2010 anymore, though. We're on the One More Light world tour, and goddamn are we glad to be, because Linkin Park's live show is as epic as ever. The band debuted a brand new setlist at the world tour opening show in Buenos Aires, Argentina at the Maximus Festival. There's so much going on with the set, we're not even entirely sure where to begin. Let's start where the setlist starts: a shocking mashup between the ATS interlude 'Fallout' (being used for the first time since Singapore 2011) and Living Things ballad 'Roads Untraveled,' which has never been performed in any form ever. Epic way to start the set, especially for us live nerds. Promptly following is 'The Catalyst,' opening the show for the third time ever (after two shows in London 2010 and Abu Dhabi 2010), and returning as a full band track for the first time since Kuala Lumpur 2013. Following that came the only surviving song from The Hunting Party, 'Wastelands' sporting the outro transition of 'War' before it. This is actually only the fourth time the full song has ever been played (with the studio intro) - most performances on The Hunting Party World Tour featured a shortened version of 'Runaway' transitioning into it. And then, right after, came the worldwide premiere of One More Light track 'Talking To Myself.' Just like how the band debuted 'Wastelands' in Tucson 2014, this is the first time we've ever heard the full version 'Talking To Myself' (after hearing an acoustic snippet of it at the band's Warner Bros Records party), and, boy, is it something awesome. Enough of me talking about it, just go listen to this live video of it: Talk about badass. That's not where the surprises ended. The set featured a lot of awesome moments: 'Burn It Down' came right after, being featured super early on in the set for the first time ever, followed by 'One Step Closer' with a new spin on its classic 2007 Intro, right into the Experience Version of 'Castle Of Glass' with a newly remixed portion at the end of it. Then came the live debut of 'Good Goodbye,' the live version with Mike's new verse being preceded by a sing-a-long intro. Mike actually changed up his verse from the rehearsal video we heard earlier this month. Chester brought out a sweet guitar on 'Battle Symphony' for the song's full band debut. The classic Acapella Outro to 'Breaking The Habit' made a return, with the piano version of 'Crawling' making its onstage debut. What came next was probably one of the best moments of the night: the brand new version of 'Leave Out All The Rest' with its beautiful intro and rocking ending. Not only is the Ballad Medley (or, as Skipees calls it, the Salad Medley) gone, but this epic version of LOATR feels like a great way to celebrate the ten-year anniversary of Minutes To Midnight (which turns ten in one week!). 'What I've Done' also featured a fancy new intro after 'Somewhere I Belong' made an unexpected appearance, with Brad really sounding awesome on the returning extended guitar solo bridge. He also sounded great on the 'Faint' outro which he finally changed up after years. An epic crowd moment occurred during 'In The End,' when the band paused after the intro and let the crowd sing all the way up until the first chorus before starting it over from the first verse. The "encore" went by pretty standardly. There was no break (though it was pretty evident that's where the encore break is meant to be), but 'Numb' kicked it off with its Collision Course additions before 'Heavy' rocked it with epic production. 'Papercut' made a surprise appearance, too, before 'Bleed It Out closed the show. The surprises never ended, from start to finish. There were a few gaps, though, that opens up the question: will we see a headlining set in Chile? Maximus Festival was, as you can clearly see, a festival. That means the band had less time to play than they would a headlining show, this one only lasting around 90 minutes. On The Hunting Party tour, the band was going for a solid 105 minutes at their headlining shows. The thing is, this show is a headlining show. The band probably won't be rehearsing too much between the end of this tour and when they head off to Europe in June, so this'll probably be the set they play at the festivals there, so no time to make a new set for the headlining shows they have planned in the Netherlands, Germany, and England. So, unless they're playing this set for all of the shows, they must have another setlist planned, or at least some changes to this existing one. Some key tracks were missing in this setlist: 'Waiting For The End' and 'Given Up' are noticeably missing. What do you think - will we see a new set at this show? The same one? Or will the band add more songs to this one to fill in the time? Back-to-back: watch the epic production of 'Heavy' go straight into a killer performance of 'Papercut.' Linkin Park's not in it alone at this show. Rise Against are opening for them - and it's not the first time. Rise Against and Linkin Park were touring together for the ill-fated The Hunting Party Winter North American Tour in 2015. It was doomed to be only three shows long, but that didn't stop Tim McIlrath from joining the band onstage for 'Bleed It Out.' It's definitely possible we see this happen again. If you're going to the show, you can expect to hear some new songs from Rise Against like 'The Violence' from their upcoming album Wolves, due out in June. Who's going to the show? We'll be keeping you covered on what goes on during it, so be sure to check back here or follow us on Twitter and like our Facebook page for live updates. After this show, the band continues their South American tour with their first ever show in Lima, Peru on May 11 before ending it off in Brazil at the second weekend of the Maximus Festival there. Let us know in the comments or on social media what you think the band will do at this show - play the same set or hit us with something different? We had a little contest in the Custom Setlists thread to see who could make the closest guess to the setlist. Congrats to SasstielExperience for not only getting most of the songs correct, but even predicting some runs of songs correct. In other Linkin Park news, the presale for Linkin Park's One More Light North American Tour will be on May 9 (same day of this show), so if you're planning on getting tickets, get your wallets ready. The band recently shared the wacky video for 'Good Goodbye' featuring Pusha T and Stormzy, so if you want to see Chester play basketball and NOT break his leg (or watch him get dunked on by a little girl), check it out. One More Light is out next week, on May 19, and there are rumors that another song, 'Invisible,' may be shared some time this week, so be on the lookout for that. Don't forget to check out the Sean Dowdell And His Friends? story (Chester's first band) that our hard-working staff member LESTAT shared the other day, too. Follow us on social media (linked above) so you stay up to date. Setlist: 1. Fallout (w/ 'Roads Untraveled') 2. Talking To Myself (First time as opener) 3. Burn It Down 4. The Catalyst (Shortened) 5. Wastelands 6. One Step Closer (2017 Intro; Ext. Outro) 7. Castle Of Glass (Experience Version; 2017 Ending) 8. Good Goodbye 9. Lost In The Echo (Shortened) 10. Battle Symphony (Fucked up intro streak: 2 shows) 11. New Divide 12. Invisible (Public Live Debut) 13. Waiting For The End (Remember The Name Intro; Wall Of Noise Outro) 14. Breaking The Habit (Acapella Outro) 15. One More Light (Full Band Live Debut) 16. Crawling (Piano Version) 17. Leave Out All The Rest (2017 Version) 18. Somewhere I Belong 19. What I've Done (2017 Intro; Ext. Guitar Solo Bridge) 20. In The End 21. Faint (Ext. Outro) --------------------------------- 22. Numb ('Numb/Encore' Intro + Outro) 23. Heavy 24. Papercut 25. Bleed It Out (Ext. Bridge w/ Sing-a-long; Ext. Outro) Check out the rest of Linkin Park's 2017 touring schedule here.

This isn't a review. It's just one guy bringing together everything we know about the tracks we haven't heard yet, and taking a crack at the song lengths. If it was actually sourced from a news website and not just a Linkin Park fansite that says in the opening paragraph that he's taken information that he's heard from other people who have heard the record (which I assume means WBR officials + anything they've said in interviews), then it would be more credible. This is all just standard info we know - nothing new.

You sure about that, buddy? You've been saying a lot of things that just aren't correct tonight. Might wanna check your facts/take things into consideration first.

Surprised no one has complained about the only non-single in the setlist being 'Talking To Myself' yet. Fine by me, I think it was executed awesomely.

Hahninator's busy eating dinner, but here's his guess: OSC Faint Papercut new divide WFTE goodGoodbye LITE LOATR Numb Crawling(piano) Heavy BattleSymphony BTH invisible talkingToMyself BID Catalyst ITE OML WID BIO

Just under an hour until the stream starts. Get things rolling with your livestreams!

Going to be updating the main post, show page, and Twitter live as the show happens, so if you're not watching tune into one of these. join the hype in the shoutbox, too.

Nope.

Can't post this on social media because Vorterix followed us: if you download the Vorterix app onto your phone (the purple one) you can watch the stream from there.

This is more concerning the positions/song selection, extensions are just a bonus or little extra fun.

I'll allow it.

Gonna do a little contest. Everyone post your guess at tomorrow's setlist in the Custom Setlists thread. Closest guess gets a shoutout in the next preshow post. EDIT; WE GOT A LIVESTREAM BOYS.

Challenge: post what you think the setlist tomorrow will be. Whoever is closest gets a shoutout in the next pre-show post. Given Up (2017 Intro; Ext. Outro w/ Extra Note) New Divide Wretches & Kings Talking To Myself With You Wastelands Waiting For The End (Apaches Intro w/ UIB; Wall Of Noise Outro) Castle Of Glass (Experience Version; w/ ATS Interludes) Crawling (Piano Version) Leave Out All The Rest Good Goodbye (Ext. Intro; Live Version) Lost In The Echo Battle Symphony Burn It Down The Catalyst Numb In The End Faint (Ext. Outro) One Step Closer (Ext. Outro) One More Light Heavy What I've Done Bleed It Out (Ext. Bridge; Ext. Outro)

I don't understand how you could've thought that was real... the text is blurrier than the rest of the picture lmao. LP doesn't format written sets like that either.

Jesus, lighten up people. We've known for awhile now this video had a silly tone to it. Enjoy it for what it is instead of whining that it's not another dramatic video like 'Numb.' I think it's a welcome change of pace. Kid at the end is badass.

Looks like I'm doing the two Florida shows, along with something pretty special.