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I know almost zero people with a blu ray player. I will buy a DVD 100% of the time because it plays on my computer. I don't think a blu ray will play on a computer. I will buy a CD because it plays in my car. I listen to CDs 100% of the time too. DVD/CD combo is great. If you get too advanced with technology like this Berlin disaster then no one can play the show.

Korn studio too. Laurel and Houdini are the same thing right? So funny they went to NRG again after Rubin's haha. Valentine's Day came from the Korn studio. I hope we get commentary from Mike on this. I'm going to ask him to write some stuff up we don't. 2005 is an extremely gray area.

I think it's pacing too.

You can talk about them, feel free. We just can't host the thread with the links anymore. We don't want to get in trouble.

This used to not be the case but I agree with you now. In 2008, Rock In Rio and Madrid made me STOKED for Projekt Revolution, and then LP decided to drop Reading My Eyes, A Place For My Head, and Valentine's Day, and narrow down the super rare Pushing Me Away studio version to just one setlist. I really couldn't believe it. In 2011, the ATS setlists got pretty boring after WTCFM (when it went soft for 35 mins...nap time). In 2012, I was very skeptical but the Bristow show blew me away. Camden and Alpharetta's setlists....holy shit. Best encore ever. I'd go to 10 shows if they had a bigger tour for Honda Civic Tour. 2014...back to the same thing that you said. I saw 9 Carnivores shows and was extremely bored after a few of them. They used to roll with 3 alternating setlists and small changes at each show, and talk to the crowd. Lots of energy. This seems like one big theatrical show piece with zero breaks in it. And tons of shortened songs. Please change it up for the USA tour.

This is the weakest LPU CD to me sadly since LPU 8 (which I still dislike to this day) BUT I thought it would be similar to this because of how much new music we are getting this year. Mall is coming soon and THP was released. When ATS came out, LPUX only had two completed songs on it - Pretend To Be and What We Don't Know. So I thought this LPU CD would have one of those songs....it had zero, lol. With past LPU CDs there have been 2-3 songs I jam to quite a bit (LPU 9 is the exception because I love the entire CD) - for LPU XIII it was Basquiat, Cumulus (best demo they've ever released IMO), Primo (epic) and Pretty Birdy. With this CD, there's not an outstandingly epic song on it to me. Highlights for me are: -Rhinocerous because the Meteora era fascinates me and I LOVE the sound of the band at that time. Soundtrack, Broken Foot, Rhinocerous, Program, Cumulus, etc are all pretty good instrumental songs. -The Berlin/Prague studio demos. While these demos are not incredible, they are still interesting to me. I'm contacting the studios asking for archived pictures/information about Mike/LP's visits in 2008 so I can do a feature on LPLive. I am surprised how much material LP worked on in 2008 considering they worked ALL of 2009 and most of 2010 on an album too. -Aubrey One is a solid piece - the drums are pretty cool to me. I'll take a song like that all day. -After Canada is a 2005 demo. Previously, we only had Divided from 2005, with I assumed was 100% Mike. On After Canada, there are live drums and guitar that sounds a lot like something Brad would do. I did not realize the band recorded music in 2005 collectively (even if it meant them sending demos back and forth). I remember Mike on tour with Fort Minor in early 2006 saying he would work on something in the bus and send it to the band to "check it out" but this is the first I've heard of Rob/Brad/etc adding instrumentation to 2005-era tracks. Now I'm interested in what else was recorded that year. By the way, I agree that Berlin One, Version C could be an extremely early Burning In The Skies demo. Finally, even though there isn't a lot of amazing stuff on the CD and even though there's not a single track with completed vocals and there's not ANY CHESTER ON THE ENTIRE CD (???!!!???!!!!), I would like to say that I will take 10 songs like this all day, every day, 24/7/365 before a single live song release unless that live song is something like My Own Summer (2002) or something extremely live and rare from oldschool days. As unlikely that is to ever happen, let's stick with the demos. They've given us tons of great shit on LPU CDs and I hope this backlash over these ten demos doesn't make them change their mind about the future. With the Meteora instrumentals, Mall soundtrack, etc all coming out this year...this is fine with me...let's hope we get some other cool stuff on the next LPU CD. What surprises me is that they have SO much stuff they know we want in the vault, ha. - Messenger (choir version) + tons of ATS demos (WTCFM surely had 100 demos, lol) - Pictureboard (surprised they never "leaked" it to this day somehow) - "Thoughts That Take Away My Pride" demo from Meteora and/or A.06 (with "just drag it out, remember" vocals), Figure.09 with the alternate rapping verses, etc. - Other ATS era stuff We will see what the future brings.

9 > 13 > 11 > X > 12 > 14

Yes!!! Great find! Fuck yeah thanks! FYI, speaking of Sono (which is included in this), this is never really discussed from what I can tell but there are some good sounding demos in the Stagelight package...I never was able to mix them all together so I'm glad a video is up of these. I wish we had longer versions but it's a good look into the demos. Is Heretic the missing VMA score song?

I think they dropped Reading My Eyes because it was an incredibly unknown song to 45,000 people and they are the type of band to drop something cool like that. However, it was on the first version of the setlist with DOYS/LFY, so who really knows. This always bothers me when I think of the MK show (not a fan of the RTR DVD at all) - there were plenty of better performances on that tour that they should have/could have released. I wish we'd get the DSPs from that tour. Berlin 2008, for example, would have been incredibly epic for a DVD release. Historic venue, insane crowd, place is going off and LP is exploding.

A Thousand Suns credits: Sono Records Studio (Nouzov, Czech Republic) Tritonus (Berlin, Germany) Wasn't there a demo called Sono or Sonos? I used to have the magazine article from June 2008 (foreign) where Mike was in the studio in the Czech Republic. He is sitting at a piano. It was a jpg file and I think posted by a Brazilian website. It might be on my hard drive still...let me do some searching around. It's worth it to find that (if anyone else has it, post it please) because it's directly related to LPU XIV. EDIT: Ok I can't find the picture. I need help with that. After huge Google searches, I found an article that talks about it: http://kultura.idnes.cz/jak-mike-shinoda-z-linkin-park-nahraval-v-nouzove-fb1-/filter.aspx?c=A080730_115706_filter_vk "Even within the current European tour, Mike Shinoda of Linkin Park is working on new stuff. It is not clear whether it was material for his new album of his band (for which the reports Rolling Stone magazine actually works), or a possible solo album, but in any case you carry a hard disk with unfinished tracks and uses the services of various studies . On the day he stopped just as the Czech Sonu." Need to find that magazine article & picture. EDIT 2: Another article and some pictures, but not the exact picture I was looking for. http://www.muzikus.cz/pro-muzikanty-clanky/mike-shinoda-v-sonu-kytarista-linkin-park-natacel-v-cechach~03~zari~2008/Mike was sitting at these keyboards.

Mother of god High Voltage!

That "swirl" thing in the outro I believe is from him. And yes it said NoBrain Thing, not NoBrain Remix, as you said. You're right, it's a sample by Mike.

I will respond to this in detail later but the LP live community as well as the LPLive community (two different things but are both related) had the best year in 2008 from my experiences. I will explain why soon.

Looking for 21. Europe Projekt Revolution 2008 and the link is dead. I guess since they redid LP.com the links are dying.

Where is it?

There will definitely be a M&G. There is a M&G at almost every single show.

Added a Paris source. And added the Berlin stuff I have found so far.

We will stream the shit after the end of the tour. Download all you want, etc but it'd be great if you could tune in too to chat with other fans as the show takes place since we don't do this very often

Not quite, at least in my opinion. Package even looks better than LPU XIII.

Everyone knows you're the interviewer because you run LPFC, lol. And your profile picture is the interview. I was surprised that over half of the discussion was about live stuff - I surely thought you'd ask about Mall, etc instead. Kudos to whoever did the questions for including live stuff.

Congratulations...? Not sure what else you want me to say, you're in the main post.

My thoughts: I didn't think a tour part 2 was coming so that's no surprise. They'll play a few random cities in 2015 like Milwaukee, Las Vegas, etc...and probably an LA show at some point since they play LA every year. No USA tour in the summer as they'll be in Europe again probably. I don't understand the "at least one more THP song" thing. They PROMOTED this entire album as an album that was "written to be played live." But then they also said they wanted to play other Living Things songs live like Powerless and I'll Be Gone, so I guess that's just a marketing ploy. I thought they'd add in like Mark The Graves, War (which Chester said he wanted to play), etc. It'll probably be A Line In The Sand - I'll be surprised if Keys To The Kingdom comes in as well. But why can't they play these songs? Phoenix said they rehearsed almost the entire album in May 2014 (source: Rock am Ring 2014 interview). Don't want to change the setlists? Because of time? 2007 tour ended on 11/30 and 2008 tour started on 1/16. 2014 tour ends on 11/24 and 2015 tour starts on 1/15. That's more time, and 2008 had 3 brand new setlists. But I guess they don't want to do that anymore. The excuse of "oh these B cities haven't seen the show"...sorry but that's just bullshit. As if the same fans don't travel from the A cities to these B cities to fill a majority of the venue instead of local fans. GENERALLY speaking. Orlando? The Tampa fans will be there. And all the other Florida fans. Providence? The Boston fans will be there, just like they went to Mansfield (middle of nowhere ages away from Boston), etc. It comes down to they just are set in their ways and don't want to change the setlists. But I don't understand why. They aren't tired of opening 55 shows in a row with Guilty All The Same? They enjoy the faster tempo Crawling tease which the crowd sings most nights? And they like the Lost In The Echo 45 second version? Damn, the North American Tour would be a great tour to have 2 completely different sets...different opening songs, different flow, different encores and no more of this shortened song shit. Play Until It's Gone in full (with that epic European Tour NMS/Catalyst Intro that they dropped for some reason), play Lost In The Echo in full, drop some singles, add KTTK, ALITS and APFMH and let's jam. Fan voted setlists would be great. I am 100% sure rarer Hybrid Theory and Meteora songs would make it into those setlists because the general public at LP shows LOVES those two albums. No More Sorrow has a great shot too, like Given Up does. Any other non-album cut? We'd have to have a grassroots LPLive effort to get something like Reading My Eyes, In Pieces, an LPU demo, etc in there because 80% of the fans going to the show won't vote for those.

Derek from LPA's site AltWire recently sat down with Mike in Oberhausen, Germany on October 9th for an interview. The person doing the interview was actually Melissa from LPFC, which is another fansite you all know. The ten minute videos covers a range of topics and has a good variety of questions for Mike. He talks about Berlin becoming a home away from home, the Berlin LP popup store & the artwork with it, and more. Of particular interest to LPLive members and/or fans of the band's live show.... - There will NOT be a "part two" of the North American Tour in 2015 or additional dates added. - The band will not change the setlist for that tour drastically. Mike wants to add "at least one more new song", which pretty much echoes what Phoenix said earlier this year about wanting to play A Line In The Sand and Keys To The Kingdom live...it's likely it will be one of those tracks. Mike says they want to "change up a few things" with the set and "swap a few things around", so there will definitely be some changes, but not many. Don't hold your breath for more older songs making appearances. He said the band will be busy during the break between Europe and that tour with family and the holidays, so they don't have a lot of time to work on new setlists. - Mike likes the idea of fan voted setlists. He talked about the balance of the rarer songs and more popular songs, as well as making it only so that fans attending the show can vote (like what Metallica did). What do you think?

They didn't respond to any of my emails this year, even when I asked about DSPs returning for Carnivores and/or the release of older shows (even 2008 summer shows that we didn't get).

10 tracks, no bonus 2 tracks like LPU XIII, in my opinion.