bloodbath

Just a theory, I think after IV they kinda stagnate. I love their music, but it isn't the most innovative piece of art in word. They tried really hard in "When Legends Rise" to reach wider audiences, but their old school fans didn't accepted that sound quite well and the general public didn't change their thoughts about them, so they felt into middle ground. In the end, I get it, they took the Legacy band approach "why I'm gonna waste more time making music if you just want to listen the same shit over and over again?"

TBH I'd go to this show for Godsmack

A singer from a tribute band to "replace" Chester? Not a bad option, to be honest. I already have many issues with Grey Daze,but this one seems one of their few good ideas.

Maybe the Don't Stay and Nobody's Listening weren't included because they were almost identical to the final versions, a different working name doesn't have to mean a drastically different song

Let's say that Jeff know the grey areas of the law (which probably is true) and he gets away with it. What does he gain pissing off a band which he had a bitter relationship with, and he even has published a book about how he discovered them and gain some money with that, adding more fuel to the band's discontent. Really, what's his main goal? I see can't see any positive outcome in any way.

So, the short answer would be that the project was a mess from minute 0. I don't get why LP encouraged to share the shows. In fact, who initiated that idea at first? Seems like they knew that recording and selling every show was going to be overwhelming for their crew, maybe self sabotaging? Cold hard truth is, they aren't released because no one wants to enter a legal battle to make happy a tiny fraction of the fanbase, I mean us

That fucking hurts.

Doesn't bother you a bit that they only released half of the show? It wouldn't ruin my experience, but I'd be a little bit upset about it

In fact, didn't a couple of tracks of that show leaked from a Mike's hard drive or something? I remember the quality of those was INSANE. Another legendary non released DVD like Berlin 2014. PS: lucky bastard, you saw one of their best encores with the Lying/Papercut medley, Faint and OSC

Are we entirely sure that he's gonna release some demos?

Any thoughts about creating another version? Why could that be?

That was very strange, indeed. I mean they released later on the Australian tour 2007, there wasn't any reason not to release those shows, but we will never know for sure. If someone asks Mike he'd say something like: I don't remember, It wasn't my thing, go ask somebody else

Not a big fan of vinyl thanks to things like this.

-Rock am Ring 2007 -Any other show with Faint as show closer -I could care less about the rest, I'm gonna enjoy it anyway

Really? I would go with the ATS era, but it's great to see someone pointing out something truly positive from the LT era

P5hng me A*wy. At least those are the lyrics I could relate to best

The 15 anniversary thing is just the current trend of many artist in streaming services, they release a digital only deluxe edition with shitload of tracks just to duplicate numbers on certain tracks and therefore more money

The album was horrible, but people took it to personal level. I mean, people throwing stuff and spitting at the show... What the fuck are you even doing there? Obviously that didn't cause that Chester killed himself, but for sure made his last days on Earth a little bit harder.

We've never know if the OML legacy would have been different if 2017 events didn't happen

Putting aside personal tastes, because we're ALL thinking "How this magnificent song can be listed so below????", The results are nothing short of unsurprising. That period from 2000-2007 was HUGE for them in terms of popularity.

It was different, not what I was expecting for sure

So, regarding to LIT audios we have: The original DVD version The original CD + DVD tracks added in 2023 with dialogues cut The LPU3 outtakes with slight differences Kinda messy if you ask me

Hi! Question regarding the Jimmy Kimmel 03 show, since we are on the Meteora mood. The enhanced videos from the LPU3 CD (Don't Stay and Faint) are taken from the Internal VHS source? I briefly compared both videos this evening, and the "official material" seemed badly compressed to fit into the CD. A downgrade from the original video. Pd: how poorly have aged those enhanced CDs

3 DVDs seems excessive to me. Tokyo 2006 is way more MTM, we just can wish it's on the next box set. The Roxy, making of and Live 8 fit on a DVD. I even include the LPU5 tracks (remastered, obv) as bonus tracks on the main CD.

Great topic! Let me add my suggestions B-Sides rarities: The DSP tracks goes off. I've always think that why I would want a couple of tracks on the CD if I have the full show in digital with the same quality? DVDs: Fuck it, the MSG 11 is a MUST. I'll also add the iTunes show with the best quality and the Red Square. Also, a show with a rare setlist. Since you proposed the first show of the tour, I go with the last one. Vinyls: I don't care, honestly, Madrid would be cool.