bloodbath

Wasn't cigarettes making fun of the gangsta rap?

Do you guys imagine that the song is released and turns up being a big enormous pile of shit? What a wild assumption!!

Same here, the SOD feud saga it's too confusing and hard to follow

Glad I'm not the only one that thinks that MS without SOB is just... MS. How many times has Mike cut off Ryu at the last minute?

Great insights both of you. It's curious to see how a twisted mind like Chester's works. How "common" traumas like abandonment issues, relationship problems... takes him to a whole different level and makes him act so erratic for years. Like Paranoid says, that was the culmination of a very rough life. Speculating gives us some comfort to try to get the pieces of what happened, but the truth is we will never know. It's impossible to fit the pieces and see the Warning signs because Chester's mind was like playing a game but each game the rules completely change. As for the people who blame Talinda, they've never been in a serious relationship in their entire life's and they don't know what it mean to reach your tipping point. They say never meet your heroes, so for those who throw shit at her... Do you really want to be around Chester 24/7 during one of his bad days? Really? Because something tells me that you'll be burning your Linkin Park CDs after that. The only good outcome is that the band and their family, are moving forward. It's healthy and they deserve it.

Well, sorry about the wrong shots, I was getting on my nerves

We've all done awful stuff that we're not proud of in our past. More so If you were an alcoholic. I have the same age as you and it is now when I understand a lot of the lyrics that before were completely irrelevant, not only LP but many other bands with introspective lyrics. Don't take as an personal attack, but people took too seriously the new OML sound, like their lifes depended on it. Truth is, now matter the band means to you, your life is going to be the same even though LP would have released the best record in the world (that's why I hate the whole "X band saved my life", no, you saved yourself, give some credit). Being myself an asshole, I still figuring out what takes to a person to pay 200€ for a festival ticket to throw some shit to an artist, just because they're playing a couple of tracks they dislike. No, Chester didn't commit suicide just because some cunts decided to act like the band have just raped and killed their entire family. What changed that time is that he was at his lowest point. He's the most recognizable figure of a band that has been loved/hated since 2000. He tried to kill himself back in 2005, and there was no album factor during that time. What's really funny now is how suddenly everyone is seeing his cries for help in every album. Their closest family and friends couldn't predict what he would do, but you, reading a bunch of lyrics and didn't truly knowing the person, could.

Whatever Jeff, you're great, the band are a bunch of cunts. You won.

Hi Jeff, I'll explain to you again. "The music videos of Crawling Papercut and in the end were made after the success of the LP", You have the making of HT on the Pankake festival DVD, which is on the boxset. As for the others, haven't you considered that maybe, and just maybe, doesn't exist a making of? Let's analyze the "already seen concerts". shall we? Fillmore 2001 - Just two songs prior released, the rest of the show was completely new Rock Am Ring 2001 - Yeah, in this sole case, they should have released something like the Docklands Arena show. You want to throw it out a whole boxset just because of that? That's up to you PR02 - Completely unreleased. The argument "publish something that the fans want", if we applied that to the entire LP career, they've probably would have been forgotten as another nu metal band of that era. Besides, you tend to speak as you represented the entire LP fanbase. Let me tell you a secret: I could care less about dozens of Xero demos that probably were mediocre or plain bad. I'm happy with what we got Jeff, good luck releasing your demos.

I program ChatGTP to defend Grey Daze. And also multimillionaire.

I'm sorry, but you've taken HT20 completely wrong or you're Jeff using ChatGTP as a disguise. Yes, the band recorded dozens of things, but first and foremost they don't have to release everything, for their own private reasons. We, as a fans, sometimes we acted as a bunch of spoiled kids in the past, like in the LPU8 or LPU16 cases. Instead of complaining about what we don't have, what about if we appreciate what we got? Most of bands doesn't take care of their fanbase as LP does, releasing demos each fucking year from their vault. It's incredible after all these years we still had unreleased material, after leaking stuff from that period for a long time. Secondly, I think this anniversary has distorted your take on reality, you can't ask for SBD recordings of every show or a making of the album, because it doesn't fucking exist. The LP who recorded Meteora was the jewel of the crown for Warner, for that they destined resources (for beginners, money), for everything LP does because they pretty know for sure that this investment is going to have a return (for beginners, again, it's called business). The LP who recorded Hybrid Theory was, in the other hand, a band who wasn't even trusted by his own manager. How the fuck are they're gonna invest money in something they don't truly believe? "Hey, we're executives at Warner with a crystal ball and we've have seen that this band we actually despise is going to break the mold with this record, so let's film everything" And after this rant, I think I'm gonna to open my boxset and watch my PR02 DVD, which I just discovered that it has been around in the internet since 2002, since there wasn't any second of new footage and I didn't notice.

A short live EP "Live at the Roxy". I'm sure nobody would oppose to that little cashgrab 🤣

The Roxy LP set for a new LPU CD would be a fantastic idea

The typical LPLive forum holy grail, for example

Sean, get out off the forum

A Godsmack show isn't a good place for a band like GD. But you have to go where they call you...

Has Jeff always been that sketchy?

The more we dig, the more smoke and mirrors I see.

You sum up perfectly. Maybe we should do a list with their greatest hits and misses

Grey Daze was your ordinary local band. You can't expect them to do everything as a professional band. It's not their job, they aren't used to it.

The good thing is you have way less people comparing you at the first show. Less pressure

I would do it, no brainer. This guy has a once-in-a-lifetime-chance. He should grab it. And no, I'm far from being a Grey Daze fan or even feel some degree of sympathy for Sean, but Cris isn't to blame. I'm glad for him

Just a theory, I think after IV they kinda stagnate. I love their music, but it isn't the most innovative piece of art in word. They tried really hard in "When Legends Rise" to reach wider audiences, but their old school fans didn't accepted that sound quite well and the general public didn't change their thoughts about them, so they felt into middle ground. In the end, I get it, they took the Legacy band approach "why I'm gonna waste more time making music if you just want to listen the same shit over and over again?"

TBH I'd go to this show for Godsmack

A singer from a tribute band to "replace" Chester? Not a bad option, to be honest. I already have many issues with Grey Daze,but this one seems one of their few good ideas.