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I would have had you down as liking By Myself - all dat screaming! I way prefer the PR08 version to the studio edition. it's way darker and I like the alterations made to the samples. I think the added sample over Joe's later scratch part (It's probably a vocal clip, but it sounds like whale song or something) way cooler than the original. mine are... 1 from each album - Runaway Easier To Run No More Sorrow The Messenger Until It Breaks overall - Runaway Easier To Run Nobody's Listening No More Sorrow Until It Breaks Runaway's chorus is just really simple and irritating, it's a decent track rhythmically, and I like the samples/breakdown, but it's too ham-fisted for my liking, I feel like it doesn't say anything of any significance, just words (it was a close call with Forgotten here). Easier To Run is their whiniest, I love the rap refrain and the way the chorus feels like it has a distance, or scope to it, but as a whole, it's the one I skip most off Meteora. Nobody's Listening isn't the most riveting song ever, I like the 2nd verse and the "heart full of pain" bit, but it's a bit dull overall. No More Sorrow insists on itself... I only ever listen to the Long Intro on the live version, but then usually skip the rest, it bores me. The Messenger is, in my opinion, a weak album closer, and I don't think Chester soundds very good on it. it exposes him struggling to hit top notes and it's ... painful listening. Until It Breaks feels too much like three bits jammed together, I like parts of it, but they could have done something better with those three parts. it feels rushed and under-cooked. plus I always feel like Mike isn't keeping up with the beat during the rep sections and it's frustrating to listen to.

happens to the best of us I was wondering if you'd meant that Turkey was the last non-"MTM Tour version" Session, but nope! hehe

I stand corrected

Session was the first song played at Sonisphere '09 (01.08.09) so I know this stat's wrong! correction: was last played in Pomona http://lplive.net/shows/20090822.php

if it's of any help, leftshoe18 is a member here, he makes his own music and mash-ups of LP. he could have made this himself, or maybe someone else made it. I have seen a W&K a capella on youtube before now, but I have no idea if it was official or not. I don't think there's ever been a release of ATS a capella/instrumentals aside from any possible rock band/dj hero rips

they were only under Metallica but I guess you couldn't have it the other way around.. hmm, I heard alot of noise from the NIN camp during Reading/Leeds this year, Festival Republic don't treat bands particularly well (AAA passes not being honoured, your guests only being allowed backstage at strict times, etc.) but at such a big festival, you do have to accept that they need to control the flow of the undoubtedly vast number of people who will be backstage. and if you're going to play at a festival, you have a contract you sign where you can pretty much tell if it's going to be a tough weekend, that's poor work from the legal/booking team. I've booked the whole weekend, no camping. I had a giftcard and it seemed sensible to use it when there was that extra £10 off on earlybird. I might not be massively enthused by the Fri/Sun headliners, but there's always something else to go and watch (if Aerosmith don't play the two songs I know/if A7x play stuff from outside of the 2006-2009 era..)

I originally found it via eBay. I don't know if the seller planned to buy via Hot Topic to supply the demand, or if he/she knew something I didn't uk shipping from HT, for those wondering, is $43.65! (£27.24)

I cant imagine they'd do later albums in full on tour. HT is something special and pulls lots of people in, as oposed to LT or ATS in full. If they did "X in full" tours, they couldn't feasibly do that at a festival or an arean tour. it just, couldn't happen IMO.

the thing with the UK is that most people are out at festivals in the summer, and so promoters don't bother with actual tour dates until September-May sort of time. I mean right now (November), everyone and their mum is touring... it's nuts!

RaR/RiP seems a strong bet. the pre-"album #6" promo tour is probably going to be alot like the pre-LT tour was; EU festivals and then a big US run once the album's out, then some more smaller 'legs' in various continents as part of a "album #6 world tour" - Asia and maye S. America, etc. I just hope that the uk/EU gets included in the term "world tour" this time around though

would NIN want to sub-headline the sub-headliners? (if that makes sense..?)

*fist-bump*

we'll see however, having re-read this conversation, I feel like I must apologise for appearing agressive in my first response to you. that wasn't particularly fair of me. It does suck that Scottish, (to a lesser extent) Welsh, and (to a massive extent) Irish/N. Irish fans miss out alot on "uk" tours, US bands often don't get that we are technically separate countries. let's see what 2014 has to offer though I am "The Day Maker"

coloured vinyls are cool and whatnot, but I don't think they're all that special in comaprison to other releases - if given the choice of the HT RSD bundle or the clear disc w/out the OSC 7', I'd pick RSD every time - way nicer as a little pair of items than one fancy one.. sure there's the 1 of 1000 thing, but they didn't even number the RSD package! which I thought was a poor choice on the marketing front.. quick update to my list: HT E.P Reissue - Underground 1 (I'm confident this one is real: darker colouration, sharper images, correct spelling of 'Joseph'... Underground 2 (finally!) Underground 11 It's Goin' Down CD-S ATS double Vinyl Box Bundle (which blows my mind, favourite item)

you are nothing compared to the madness that is gripping UK fans right now - http://i.imgur.com/bhNML.gif

I like the idea of having High Voltage rapped over POA -sneak them b-sides in

while I preferMike's lyrics in FM, I personally don't care for the genre of music all too much, it's very "classic" rap/hip-hop/R&B and that's not my bag, therefore I picked EPs - it's cool to hear but it's not something I'd be interested in for very long.

this too. If they do HT in full on tour I'd pick that over Download. I'm going to wait until December. If we've heard nothing about a tour, I'm going to get a ticket while they're at 2013 prices. it's definitely sensible to hang fire on this one

see, I reckon it'll be similar to a 2012/13 setlist just with some songs swapping in and out to accomodate HT, for example, this is Kuala Lumpur (19.09.13) edited up ('over-the-PA' show intro = TINFOIL Cure For The Itch) Papercut Given Up With You (2012 intros/outros) Somewhere I Belong or Runaway New Divide or Runaway (runaway spot in 5/6 is interchangeable) VICTIMIZED (w/ QWERTY) Points Of Authority Lies Greed Misery Forgotten UIB/Waiting For The End Breaking The Habit Pushing Me Away (maybe the piano version? give CB a break?) Castle Of Glass Ballad Medley By Myself The Catalyst Crawling Lost In The Echo Numb In The End What I've Done Numb On Step Closer What I've Done or Bleed It Out---- Burn It Down In The End A Place For My Head Bleed It Out One Step Closer Kuala Lumpur was an area show though, and Download might have a shorter set time .. if the band premiere a new song, I'd put it as being song 1 after the encore.

HT in full - c'mon, no brainer! I'm going to try and get my shit together and be there. I probably won't camp but I might do the whole weekend. I might wait for a few more bands to be put on the line-up, but I am keen to get the money off deal before the 8th :/ who's down?

I'm guessing that was what I had found on ebay, prompting this post. it's real! the dates match up, so I'm guessing that the Meteora Gold vinyl (1500 copies) is official too

Yes travellers, Wellies are a must! UK and all.. I might attempt a weekend (fuck camping though). I tend to go to stuff on my own (I'm the only person i know who's willing to travel to stuff) but it would be cool to hang with some LPLers I'd prefer it out of order, PMA's a weak ending in my opinion - if they're doing it uninterrupted i personally think they need to switch the order about

I meant the "where you live" thing in terms of the fact that travelling down to UK festivals is easier for you than say, someone in the US. HT in full might not ever happen again and you're actually in a better position than most others - I was referring to this event specifically, not the tour schedules in general, and like Hahninator mentioned, it's entirely possible they'll come back to revisit Scotland in 2014 Let's just respectfully agree to disagree.we're all entitled to our opinions - that's the whole point of a forum

Didn't we already tell you that?

Anyone up for doing some Download setlists? Obviously, you have to include - Papercut One step closer With you Points of authority Crawling Runaway By myself In the end A place for my head Forgotten Cure for the itch Pushing me away And I reckon that this is the list of "other" songs that will fill gaps (or form an "2nd" encore set?). These are the steady, solid singles + current live arrangements (ballad medley) Not saying all of these will appear, but I'm daily confident that these are the band's song options - Breaking the habit Somewhere I belong Faint Numb (I might have been a bit heavy on the Meteora singles, and since that album's really just HT II, they might skim over it a bit) Given up What I've done Bleed it out (a usual show closer, but if HT is going to played out of order, I think OSC will replace BIO) Ballad medley(?) UIB/Waiting for the end The catalyst (I can't see much of ATS being played Lost in the echo Burn it down Castle of glass(?) New Divide(?)