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New setlists mean nothing to me unless there's a song debuting or old ones returning,etc. Lol. Still, Hopefully Robot Boy will debut, I can't see it not happening, its similar in regards to LTGYA, I think it would be fantastic live.

I wish it was 3 months time already, where we'd be hopefully looking foreword to the next video after this, cause BITS or Iridescent as a single is yawn-inducing I like the songs, and they may suit a single, but they do nothing for people who don't like LP's typical sound. With something like W&K its so different and fresh it would attract new fans. When I tell people who ask that ATS is different and the bands sound has changed, BITS/Iridescent does nothing to help my case. Oh well.

I still can't see why RB is so unpopular. BITS and The Messenger are worse. The argument of RB sounding unoriginal makes me LOL' even more especially when compared to BITS, which sounded like it could have been on MTM. Still, everyone has an opinion.

Is there a link online from where he said that ? or was it at a M&G I just cant remember him confirming that. Edit: Wrong quote, I meant Astat's post about ATL being the last cut from MTM.

Not with you on Pale, deffo with you on Iridescent, the most over rated song on ATS. What we don't know is a really nice song, only the generic LP chorus spoils it for me. Hate the title too, I'm hoping one day LP will do away with the naff titles.

I am grateful please read next time ^ I hardly ever complain, always reserved, I don't care about LPU packages, meet and greets, anything. So when something comes up i usually think before I post. Uh uh, despite releasing an Underground CD every year, the vast majority aren't B-sides. In terms of overall content their not that stingy, but don't kid yourself when it comes to B-sides,etc. I mean I think we've only ever had 2 B-sides over 4 studio albums at the album's launch.

I wish people would stop telling others that they should be grateful,etc and stop whining. I never usually complain about LP, but we were just shy of a confirmation of this CD being full of B-sides. I don't care if it features the best Instrumental tracks of all time, It's not what most of us wanted or expected. We can whine if we want. I'm grateful for anything, but LP are quite stingy on Full B-sides aren't they ? The weird thing is I don't think they even care too much for their old songs, and they must have quite a few in the vaults. Release something.

So, to sum it up. Track, 01. Unfortunate (2002) - Inst 02: What We Don't Know (2007) - Vocals, Pretend to Be vibe. 03: Oh No (Points Of Authority Demo) - Inst 04: I Have Not Begun (2009) - Vocals, Mike rapping, 3 mins long. 05: Pale (2006) - Inst 06: Pretend To Be 07: Divided (2005) - Inst 08: What I've Done (M. Shinoda Remix) - Same'ish as Distorted remix 09: Coal (1997) - Inst, 3.39 mins 10: Halo (2002) - Inst, 3.42

And the last 2 are instrumentals too. Crap. Thats like 6 Instrumentals.

Guys divided is an Instrumental too and the WID remix sounds like the one we got too. Im grateful for anything, but what Utter shit so far. Cant wait to hear the vocal tracks.

We weren't exactly early and we got great spots not far from the front.

Amazing show. Travelled all day to Manchester and stayed there, now i got home, late the next day. Totally worth it, solid performance, I thought the start of Crawling was particularly strong, Waiting for the end was amazing, catalyst wasn't as insane as id hoped but still amazing. Nothing particularly different from any of the other shows, but very solid. People in the pit were absolute knob heads no offence, I was with my girlfriend shielding her half of the time. Does it offend you yea ? were fucking electric. Quality stuff. Great great day. And, I haven't check the info, but how long until the DSP ? 10 or 30 days ?

Going to be making my way to Manchester soon, hell of a long day in front of me. Its only 7am. Hope it's a good one.

I'll be there for the Manchester shows.

Fair enough, each to their own.

Little Things Give You Away is the best song they've ever done. They can and should do better than Iridescent. I'm a fan of it sure, but it isn't a particuarly special or uinique song.

The soft vocals, piano, the overall vibe of the song reminds me of SOTD. I love MTM and the whole soft songs, just when I heard Irid for the first time, I just thought, come on, this is the best you can do ? It does feel like to me it could have been on MTM.

Lol. To sum up my ramble, Robot Boy reminds me of LTGYA in a sense, and Iridiscent sounds old to me for some reason linked to Shadow Of The Day

How ? Cause I said Iridescent is winning, then said the song grew on me ? Would you like it the other way round ? Nothing contradictory there

Iridescent is winning. WTF. The song grew on me big time, but best on the album ? I think not. Had I not heard an LP song that didnt sound like it before then maybe, but honestly, just sounded like Shadow of the Day to me. Wretches and Kings cause its fresh, Robot Boy because its LTGYA-ish, Waiting for the End, all are better choices.

Why would he be kidding ? Its 18 seconds of nothing. Its not even 18 it only kicks in after about 8 seconds. It's insulting to call it an interlude really.

Interesting. I thought the animations and controls were the best part of UFC '10. It plays very fast and its very in depth. Two guys goin at it who know what their doing on there is amazing. Id agree with the flash knockouts..in the 2009 version lol. Honestly I can't see no major fault with the 2010 game, they've nailed the formula pretty dam well. Obviously improvments can be made.

How do you actually know what was in what groups of 5,etc and the song that Mike was planning in the event of an emergency single. The doc doesn't really give any of that away I thought.

Looking back I can't believe Robot Boy has the most votes. Fucking ridiculous. Mess and Burning In the Skies are the worst IMO. Iridescent has grown on me, but i still stand on my original analysis. Wonder now that the album has had time to sink in if RB has made any fans ?

I thought PTB was made completely in 2008, not using any seeds/demos from anything in the MTM era