lpliveusername Posted Sunday at 06:07 AM Share Posted Sunday at 06:07 AM Released in the US on November 22, 2005, Fort Minor's sole studio album "The Rising Tied" will be turning 20 years old at the end of 2025. In the past few years we have seen Linkin Park's first two studio albums, "Hybrid Theory" and "Meteora," turning 20 as well and, to celebrate, each album received a box set containing numerous previously unreleased songs, demos and live recordings along with newly edited documentaries. In celebration their 15th anniversary, the Linkin Park album "Minutes To Midnight" and the Dead By Sunrise album "Out Of Ashes" have also received special releases with additional content in recent years. This has led many fans to question whether The Rising Tied will be following this same pattern. The last activity from the Fort Minor project dates from 2015 and all subsequent solo work from Mike Shinoda has been released under his own name, which suggests that Fort Minor is pretty much done at this point. Being the only studio album released under that name, The Rising Tied was reissued in 2023 with all the bonus tracks from the original special edition and tour edition of the album as well as the 2015 single 'Welcome,' which had never been a part of any album before. The inclusion of 'Welcome' in this latest collection opens the possibility for more material recorded around that era to be included on a potential 20th anniversary edition of "The Rising Tied." Although the project only materialized one studio album, many other recordings have been released in other formats under the Fort Minor name, like the long requested "We Major" mixtape, which is currently unavailable on digital platforms; the Fort Minor Militia (official fan club) exclusive tracks, which were never released anywhere outside the long gone FMM website; and the Sessions@AOL live EP, which is exclusively a digital release and doesn't include the full show. Also worth noting are collaborations and miscellaneous tracks released by Fort Minor collaborators such as: Trades Of The Tools ("Tools Of The Trade" Parody) [From MySpace] - Space Invadas (DJ Cheapshot & Vin Skully) The Battle (Extended Mix) [From The Gatalog] - Celph Titled feat. Mike Shinoda Cover & Duck (Demo) [From The Gatalog] - Celph Titled feat. Styles Of Beyond & Mike Shinoda Hey You (From Razor Tag) - Styles Of Beyond feat. Mike Shinoda Hard (MS Remix) [From Razor Tag] - Styles Of Beyond Second To None (From Razor Tag) - Styles Of Beyond feat. Mike Shinoda Magic Doors (Portishead Remix) [From YouTube] - Mike Shinoda, SoB & Green Lantern Remember The Name (Cheapshot Remix) [From Cheapshot's Poo Poo Platter] - Fort Minor feat. Styles Of Beyond Remember The Name (Kaschke & Mauer Remix) [Remix Contest Winner] Back when the Fort Minor Militia exclusive songs were being posted, the person in charge of uploading these songs commented in May 2006 that there were "several more songs," but after 'Move On' was released the following month, the releases stopped. Some of the known Fort Minor titles that remain unreleased are: Watch Their Mouth [Seen in The Making of The Rising Tied] Tampa Finals [From unreleased "Street Dreams" soundtrack] Most Kings Diamonds Episodes Player Organized Traffic Zion YO This could also be the perfect opportunity to release some long requested hip-hop collaborations from Mike Shinoda recorded up to 2005 such as 'Whatever The Fuck' (Mike Shinoda & Ryu of S.O.B.), 'Unreleased' (Visionaries feat. Mike Shinoda & Mr. Hahn), 'Mike Shinoda Freestyle' (DJ Vice feat. Mike Shinoda) and collaborations with LMNO, Chali 2na and DJ Whoo Kid for which the titles are unknown. Back when 'Welcome' was released, Mike Shinoda also mentioned he would be using a verse recorded by Ryu on a remix of the song. As for live recordings, there are plenty of options for a potential release as many shows were partially streamed online or partially broadcasted on TV. This would be the chance to finally release them in full. These are: Pukkelpop 2005 Sessions@AOL Fuse's 7th Avenue Drop Jimmy Kimmel Live Summer Sonic 2006 (Osaka and Chiba) Another idea is a compilation of TV and web performances, many of which never surfaced in good quality or are currently considered to be lost: MTV Overdrive Last Call with Carson Daly Tonight Show with Jay Leno ('Remember The Name' and 'Where'd You Go') Asian Excellence Awards CD USA MTV Total Request Live Conan It's also worth mentioning that Ethan Mates mixed the Fort Minor show at The Exchange on June 29, 2015 for a release that never happened. Note that this doesn't suggest there's a video recording of the show, but it does confirm an audio recording. Other potential video content for a "The Rising Tied" box set would be The Rising Tied Limited Edition DVD, Fort Minor Militia DVD, Fort Minor Militia Exclusive Videos and Official Music Videos. More detailed information can be read here. Do you think there will be a "The Rising Tied" 20th anniversary edition? If so, will it be a box set or a smaller release? What would you include in it? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/18266-the-rising-tied-turns-20-this-year/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonardoMF93 Posted Sunday at 12:03 PM Share Posted Sunday at 12:03 PM (edited) As I mentioned earlier in another thread, I think these anniversary editions were only released because of the band's hiatus. I have my doubts if they would want to release something similar, considering they are focused on From Zero. However, our chances might improve because when The Rising Tied turns 20, From Zero will already be over a year old, and the tour will have ended (based on the announced dates). So, I believe we have a small but real possibility. What I find amazing about Fort Minor is that there’s so much material for a project that only had one album. Besides that, the songs left out of the album are just as good as the ones that made it in. Without a doubt, Fort Minor is my favorite side project, and could have a really cool box set. Edited Sunday at 07:54 PM by LeonardoMF93 Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/18266-the-rising-tied-turns-20-this-year/#findComment-339727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottiePippo Posted Sunday at 01:17 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:17 PM 1 hour ago, LeonardoMF93 said: As I mentioned earlier in another thread, I think these anniversary editions were only released because of the band's hiatus. I have my doubts if they would want to release something similar, considering they are focused on From Zero. However, our chances might improve because when The Rising Tied turns 20, From Zero will already be over a year old, and the tour will have ended (based on the announced dates). So, I believe we have a small but real possibility. What I find amazing about Fort Minor is that there’s so much material for a project that only had one album. Besides that, the songs left out of the album are just as good as the ones that made it in. Without a doubt, Fort Minor is my favorite side project, and could have a really cool box set. Tbf other active bands have been releasing anniversary editions of their albums, like Green Day, Muse, Evanescence, etc. The biggest question mark is if Warner is going to think that it's a marketable project. A boxset has a high target price and even if the rising tied is cult for many LP fans it doesn't have the attraction of a LP studio album. I hope the rising tied 20 happens but I doubt it will be on such a large scale as the one proposed above. I'm much more confident on MTM20 happening Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/18266-the-rising-tied-turns-20-this-year/#findComment-339729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrfox Posted Sunday at 01:19 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:19 PM We probably won't get the boxset, but special edition TRT with bonus cd or an extra FM song at the concert, why not? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/18266-the-rising-tied-turns-20-this-year/#findComment-339730 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodbath Posted Sunday at 01:26 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:26 PM I'm impressed I didn't knew that there was so much material, both released and unreleased. But again, I'm skeptical about this release and it has nothing to do with the "main" band. Besides Remember the Name, I don't remember that the album was a HUGE success. By no means a failure, but not enough to justify a gargantuan boxset like we've seen in the past years. Besides the hardcore fans, not many people are gonna be interested in some parallel project from 20 years ago. We would be lucky if we had some sort of 2CD edition or something like that. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/18266-the-rising-tied-turns-20-this-year/#findComment-339731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottiePippo Posted Sunday at 01:39 PM Share Posted Sunday at 01:39 PM 4 minutes ago, bloodbath said: I'm impressed I didn't knew that there was so much material, both released and unreleased. But again, I'm skeptical about this release and it has nothing to do with the "main" band. Besides Remember the Name, I don't remember that the album was a HUGE success. By no means a failure, but not enough to justify a gargantuan boxset like we've seen in the past years. Besides the hardcore fans, not many people are gonna be interested in some parallel project from 20 years ago. We would be lucky if we had some sort of 2CD edition or something like that. Where'd you go was a big single in 2006, charting real high on billboard hot100. In the early days it was a bigger success than Remember the name, but remember the name staying power made the difference over the years. You are right tho imo. The rising tied is a success (certified platinum) but it's not huge as hybrid theory, Meteora or MTM. I hope that the 2023 vinyl reissue of the rising tied sold well so it can can entice warner to do the anniversary edition Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/18266-the-rising-tied-turns-20-this-year/#findComment-339733 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZLP-Benningstrong Posted Sunday at 03:01 PM Share Posted Sunday at 03:01 PM Shinoda if you are reading this please i need live music from Fort Minor would be cool to get some performance from the old days and the Exchange show which has a killer setlist i love the concept of One Man Show. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/18266-the-rising-tied-turns-20-this-year/#findComment-339737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinisterNL Posted Sunday at 11:53 PM Share Posted Sunday at 11:53 PM And you read this, Shinoda. If you ever buy me a coffee, black. No sugar, no milk. Greetings Max, Holland Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/18266-the-rising-tied-turns-20-this-year/#findComment-339752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZLP-Benningstrong Posted Monday at 12:05 AM Share Posted Monday at 12:05 AM 10 minutes ago, SinisterNL said: And you read this, Shinoda. If you ever buy me a coffee, black. No sugar, no milk. Greetings Max, Holland Shinoda if you are reading this play Step Up at my show on February 3rd. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/18266-the-rising-tied-turns-20-this-year/#findComment-339753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonardoMF93 Posted Monday at 12:07 AM Share Posted Monday at 12:07 AM 10 hours ago, ScottiePippo said: Where'd you go was a big single in 2006, charting real high on billboard hot100. In the early days it was a bigger success than Remember the name, but remember the name staying power made the difference over the years. You are right tho imo. The rising tied is a success (certified platinum) but it's not huge as hybrid theory, Meteora or MTM. I hope that the 2023 vinyl reissue of the rising tied sold well so it can can entice warner to do the anniversary edition The only reason The Rising Tied didn't achieve the same success as those three albums you mentioned is that it wasn't released as a Linkin Park album. Imagine Chester singing some of the songs and it being marketed as a Linkin Park album. It might have ended up being the third most important album in the band's discography due to a potential massive commercial success. That's why I find it very naive when people on social media say that Linkin Park should have come back under a different name. The Linkin Park brand is huge, and The Rising Tied is an example of that because it's one of the best albums we have, yet it's not as widely remembered outside of our fan community. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/18266-the-rising-tied-turns-20-this-year/#findComment-339754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
unksoldier2000 Posted Monday at 12:37 AM Share Posted Monday at 12:37 AM well, imo Rising Tied surely deserved a boxset, it had so many songs that didn't make the cut, scrapped, or that we don't even know about. my favs FM songs are Feel Like Home and 100 Degrees, and it sucks that the only version available of the track is with a annoying ass DJ talking on top of it................ i was going to start the thread, as soon as @lpliveusername mentioned it on the shoutbox, but i didn't had the stuff that was originally planned for the thread. but now i've managed to collect the stuff, big thanks to @Capacity for helping me out by removing some of Mike's dialogue (my UVR suddenly was uninstalled/corrupted) lol. this is a collection of sounds from unreleased songs that we know the title so far... so here it goes. following this order FM 808 Most Kings FM Clap Most Kinds FM Crash Most Kings FM Kick Organized FM Loop Diamonds 100bpm FM Loop Episodes 93bpm FM Loop GUITAR Most Kings 95bpm FM Loop Most Kings 95bpm FM Loop Player 103bpm FM Loop Tamb Player 103bpm FM Ride Most Kings FM Snare Most Kings FM Snare Organized FM Snare Traffic FM Snare Zion FM Tamb Organized FM Yo HAt FM Yo Snare FM 808 Most Kings.wav FM Clap Most Kings.wav FM Crash Most Kings.wav FM Kick Organized.wav FM Loop Diamonds 100BPM.wav FM Loop Episodes 93BPM.wav FM Loop GUITAR Most Kings 95BPM.wav FM Loop Most Kings 95BPM.wav FM Loop Player 103BPM.wav FM Loop Tamb Player 103BPM.wav FM Ride Most Kings.wav FM Snare Most Kings.wav FM Snare Organized.wav FM Snare Traffic.wav FM Snare Zion.wav FM Tamb Organized.wav FM Yo Hat.wav FM Yo Snare.wav Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/18266-the-rising-tied-turns-20-this-year/#findComment-339755 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thigolpbr Posted Monday at 01:06 AM Share Posted Monday at 01:06 AM (edited) I would like a box set like this, so many materials can be released. The show at Summer Sonic would be so amazing Chester goes on stage to sing. Just like I think Linkin Park should continue releasing boxes like MTM20 and ATS20. Edited Monday at 01:12 AM by thigolpbr Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/18266-the-rising-tied-turns-20-this-year/#findComment-339757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan_LP Posted Monday at 09:55 AM Share Posted Monday at 09:55 AM Please give us one of the shows from 2015 European tour Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/18266-the-rising-tied-turns-20-this-year/#findComment-339766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
juancpin Posted Monday at 10:57 AM Share Posted Monday at 10:57 AM This album was always superb IMO. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/18266-the-rising-tied-turns-20-this-year/#findComment-339771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinisterNL Posted Monday at 11:17 AM Share Posted Monday at 11:17 AM Talking about Styles of Beyond. I recently bought "2000 fold" on EP. Expecting it soon! Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/18266-the-rising-tied-turns-20-this-year/#findComment-339772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodbath Posted Monday at 11:33 AM Share Posted Monday at 11:33 AM 11 hours ago, LeonardoMF93 said: The only reason The Rising Tied didn't achieve the same success as those three albums you mentioned is that it wasn't released as a Linkin Park album. Imagine Chester singing some of the songs and it being marketed as a Linkin Park album. It might have ended up being the third most important album in the band's discography due to a potential massive commercial success. That's why I find it very naive when people on social media say that Linkin Park should have come back under a different name. The Linkin Park brand is huge, and The Rising Tied is an example of that because it's one of the best albums we have, yet it's not as widely remembered outside of our fan community. Absolutely, Lp were the biggest band in the world in 2004/2005, anything they touch became gold. Even a Enjoy the Silence Remix had an impressive amount of airplay! They could have done a Collision Course tour and make an stadium tour. So yeah, basically in 2005 they "lose momentum" by not touring. Even though they deserved a break, of course. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/18266-the-rising-tied-turns-20-this-year/#findComment-339773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScottiePippo Posted Monday at 01:42 PM Share Posted Monday at 01:42 PM 13 hours ago, LeonardoMF93 said: The only reason The Rising Tied didn't achieve the same success as those three albums you mentioned is that it wasn't released as a Linkin Park album. Imagine Chester singing some of the songs and it being marketed as a Linkin Park album. It might have ended up being the third most important album in the band's discography due to a potential massive commercial success. That's why I find it very naive when people on social media say that Linkin Park should have come back under a different name. The Linkin Park brand is huge, and The Rising Tied is an example of that because it's one of the best albums we have, yet it's not as widely remembered outside of our fan community. Knowing the huge backlash that every LP album since Meteora got, it's a great thing that the rising tied was released by Mike as Fort Minor. It could not have been a LP album as it is, there's not enough "room" for Chester. It would not have met "fans" expectations back in 2005. Maybe it could have been accepted as "linkin park" after OML. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/18266-the-rising-tied-turns-20-this-year/#findComment-339775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonardoMF93 Posted Monday at 03:42 PM Share Posted Monday at 03:42 PM 1 hour ago, ScottiePippo said: Knowing the huge backlash that every LP album since Meteora got, it's a great thing that the rising tied was released by Mike as Fort Minor. It could not have been a LP album as it is, there's not enough "room" for Chester. It would not have met "fans" expectations back in 2005. Maybe it could have been accepted as "linkin park" after OML. No doubt the album would be completely different if the band, especially Chester, had been involved. It was just an exercise of imagination. 4 hours ago, bloodbath said: Absolutely, Lp were the biggest band in the world in 2004/2005, anything they touch became gold. Even a Enjoy the Silence Remix had an impressive amount of airplay! They could have done a Collision Course tour and make an stadium tour. So yeah, basically in 2005 they "lose momentum" by not touring. Even though they deserved a break, of course. A tour with Jay-Z would have been a massive commercial success in 2005, indeed. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/18266-the-rising-tied-turns-20-this-year/#findComment-339778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DXIC Posted Monday at 08:14 PM Share Posted Monday at 08:14 PM 19 hours ago, LeonardoMF93 said: The only reason The Rising Tied didn't achieve the same success as those three albums you mentioned is that it wasn't released as a Linkin Park album. I disagree. The album had a good promo and good sales. Vinyl is available in several colors in different years. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/18266-the-rising-tied-turns-20-this-year/#findComment-339786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeonardoMF93 Posted Monday at 09:24 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:24 PM 1 hour ago, DXIC said: I disagree. The album had a good promo and good sales. Vinyl is available in several colors in different years. I didn't say the album wasn't successful in sales. What I meant was that The Rising Tied was less popular than Hybrid Theory, Meteora, and Minutes to Midnight. I was comparing it to those three albums! Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/18266-the-rising-tied-turns-20-this-year/#findComment-339789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJPLP Posted Monday at 09:48 PM Share Posted Monday at 09:48 PM (edited) 21 hours ago, unksoldier2000 said: following this order FM 808 Most Kings FM Clap Most Kinds FM Crash Most Kings FM Kick Organized FM Loop Diamonds 100bpm FM Loop Episodes 93bpm FM Loop GUITAR Most Kings 95bpm FM Loop Most Kings 95bpm FM Loop Player 103bpm FM Loop Tamb Player 103bpm FM Ride Most Kings FM Snare Most Kings FM Snare Organized FM Snare Traffic FM Snare Zion FM Tamb Organized FM Yo HAt FM Yo Snare Where did you find these samples? They sound cool! Edit: Also, I think I was able to figure out a loop idea for "Most Kings", using the samples you provided: https://voca.ro/197mxrEGwoTO Edited Monday at 10:12 PM by NJPLP Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/18266-the-rising-tied-turns-20-this-year/#findComment-339791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lpliveusername Posted yesterday at 12:55 AM Author Share Posted yesterday at 12:55 AM 3 hours ago, NJPLP said: Where did you find these samples? They sound cool! Twitch. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/18266-the-rising-tied-turns-20-this-year/#findComment-339798 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZLP-Benningstrong Posted yesterday at 02:08 AM Share Posted yesterday at 02:08 AM On 1/12/2025 at 6:07 PM, LeonardoMF93 said: The only reason The Rising Tied didn't achieve the same success as those three albums you mentioned is that it wasn't released as a Linkin Park album. Imagine Chester singing some of the songs and it being marketed as a Linkin Park album. It might have ended up being the third most important album in the band's discography due to a potential massive commercial success. That's why I find it very naive when people on social media say that Linkin Park should have come back under a different name. The Linkin Park brand is huge, and The Rising Tied is an example of that because it's one of the best albums we have, yet it's not as widely remembered outside of our fan community. not sure about this the LP fan base prefers rock oriented music, a full hip hop album would have been a flop. thats why MTM was still a success it still had heavy songs, screaming and a bit of rapping. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/18266-the-rising-tied-turns-20-this-year/#findComment-339799 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stranger Posted yesterday at 02:43 AM Share Posted yesterday at 02:43 AM (edited) 35 minutes ago, JZLP-Benningstrong said: not sure about this the LP fan base prefers rock oriented music, a full hip hop album would have been a flop. thats why MTM was still a success it still had heavy songs, screaming and a bit of rapping. it's the opposite for me. MTM was bashed heavily because the lacks of rapping. that's what fans noticed at the first place. it's huge contrast between Meteora & MTM. yes, rock loud music still there in MTM but rap verse it's like the missing ingredients. "the lack of Mike rapping what makes MTM boring, try to make solid rock record but failed attempt", i remember i read somewhere bout the music blogger back in the days commenting bout it. Edited yesterday at 02:44 AM by Stranger Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/18266-the-rising-tied-turns-20-this-year/#findComment-339800 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZLP-Benningstrong Posted yesterday at 03:16 AM Share Posted yesterday at 03:16 AM 31 minutes ago, Stranger said: it's the opposite for me. MTM was bashed heavily because the lacks of rapping. that's what fans noticed at the first place. it's huge contrast between Meteora & MTM. yes, rock loud music still there in MTM but rap verse it's like the missing ingredients. "the lack of Mike rapping what makes MTM boring, try to make solid rock record but failed attempt", i remember i read somewhere bout the music blogger back in the days commenting bout it. dude MTM its the third most successful album of the band, thats just a fact not an opinion. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/18266-the-rising-tied-turns-20-this-year/#findComment-339801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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