LPLStaff Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 42 minutes ago, Trumtram said: Just following all of this from afar since I don't care about this release. But I'm happy that it happened on this and not on M20. In a day and age where physical releases are declining it sure sucks to have something that messy. Pretty thankful they did so well with Meteora 20. No problems at all besides not including One Step Closer (LPU Tour 2003) right? No songs on that Live disc are included twice on the disc though, so maybe that was a conscious decision. I'd have put it in there, though. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/16204-papercuts-singles-collection-2000-2023-manufacturing-errors/page/2/#findComment-326603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodbath Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Fingers crossed that they don't fuck It Up in MTM20 Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/16204-papercuts-singles-collection-2000-2023-manufacturing-errors/page/2/#findComment-326606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
droppedjacobs Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Maybe just maybe this release was the record label and this is all a giant troll by the band against the label Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/16204-papercuts-singles-collection-2000-2023-manufacturing-errors/page/2/#findComment-326611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
martinez Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Since we know it now, let's call this alternate version of WFTE the 2012 version. On 4/15/2024 at 4:31 PM, LPLStaff said: How in the world did your ear catch that the first time? Diving into it, there are definitely different effects on the vocals. The "got" at the end is the most evident of this. I was comparing the Papercuts version with the album versions from the 2010 CD I bought because I wanted to check if there is no transition to Blackout at all or it can be still noticeable and then I have noticed that the "got" at the end sounds different so I decided to compare and check the whole track. 6 hours ago, LPLStaff said: How many releases was this wrong WFTE included on since 2012? Was ATS repressed on vinyl (or anything else) since then? All of the vinyls/CDs made with the new Warner Records name instead of Warner Bros... is it on those? And what digital releases is it on? So WFTE has been replaced just about everywhere with an incorrect version? This is a pretty significant discovery martinez, nice work. It's like the real WFTE is being erased... All vinyls of ATS were released in 2010, there is no any single one released in the later years, based on the info from lpcatalog, so I'm assuming there's no vinyl edition containg 2012 version of WFTE. If it's about the digital version, there is a standard version available on spotify here and bonus version here, containing the 2010 originals, both are also available on qobuz and some other digital stores. I think currently iTunes and Apple Music are the only two not having the 2010 versions anymore. Also, I compared the WFTE music videos, the one that I bought from iTunes few years ago. The SD quality and full HD (that contains audio in Apple Digital Master quality) both has the original 2010 version of the song but the new 4K upgrade which is on YouTube and in some other digital platforms contains the 2012 version. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/16204-papercuts-singles-collection-2000-2023-manufacturing-errors/page/2/#findComment-326612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYG4R Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 Imagine next year would be WB releasing another compilation called LINKIN PARK: THE BALLAD COLLECTION 1. My December (Piano Version) 2. Pushing Me Away (Piano Version) 3. Shadow of the Day 4. The Messenger 5. Robot Boy 6. TINFOIL+POWERLESS 7. In Between 8. Final Masquerade (Acoustic) 9. Valentine's Day 10. I'LL BE GONE (Primo rework) - this could be their lead single 11. Burning in the Skies 12. ROADS UNTRAVELED 13. The Little Things Give You Away Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/16204-papercuts-singles-collection-2000-2023-manufacturing-errors/page/2/#findComment-326617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodbath Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 39 minutes ago, RYG4R said: Imagine next year would be WB releasing another compilation called LINKIN PARK: THE BALLAD COLLECTION 1. My December (Piano Version) 2. Pushing Me Away (Piano Version) 3. Shadow of the Day 4. The Messenger 5. Robot Boy 6. TINFOIL+POWERLESS 7. In Between 8. Final Masquerade (Acoustic) 9. Valentine's Day 10. I'LL BE GONE (Primo rework) - this could be their lead single 11. Burning in the Skies 12. ROADS UNTRAVELED 13. The Little Things Give You Away Pretty sure they would include the album version of Pushing Me Away Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/16204-papercuts-singles-collection-2000-2023-manufacturing-errors/page/2/#findComment-326619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RYG4R Posted April 16 Share Posted April 16 (edited) 3 minutes ago, bloodbath said: Pretty sure they would include the album version of Pushing Me Away It's like they're pushing more away their fanbase, literally. Edited April 16 by RYG4R Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/16204-papercuts-singles-collection-2000-2023-manufacturing-errors/page/2/#findComment-326620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soeffingnaive92 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 12 hours ago, RYG4R said: It's like they're pushing more away their fanbase, literally. NO MATTER WHAT YOU SEE, YOU'RE STILL SO BLIND TO MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/16204-papercuts-singles-collection-2000-2023-manufacturing-errors/page/2/#findComment-326622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YRQRM0 Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 18 hours ago, RYG4R said: Imagine next year would be WB releasing another compilation called LINKIN PARK: THE BALLAD COLLECTION 1. My December (Piano Version) 2. Pushing Me Away (Piano Version) 3. Shadow of the Day 4. The Messenger 5. Robot Boy 6. TINFOIL+POWERLESS 7. In Between 8. Final Masquerade (Acoustic) 9. Valentine's Day 10. I'LL BE GONE (Primo rework) - this could be their lead single 11. Burning in the Skies 12. ROADS UNTRAVELED 13. The Little Things Give You Away I don't see this coming out specifically but it would be a shame if they didn't take advantage of all the wonderful live editions in some way. Grab the best of PMA piano, BTH with it's extended intro/outro, the ballad medley, Rolling In The Deep and stuff like that and you have an awesome release Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/16204-papercuts-singles-collection-2000-2023-manufacturing-errors/page/2/#findComment-326637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloodbath Posted April 17 Share Posted April 17 1 hour ago, YRQRM0 said: I don't see this coming out specifically but it would be a shame if they didn't take advantage of all the wonderful live editions in some way. Grab the best of PMA piano, BTH with it's extended intro/outro, the ballad medley, Rolling In The Deep and stuff like that and you have an awesome release PMA Live from Soundcheck would be great Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/16204-papercuts-singles-collection-2000-2023-manufacturing-errors/page/2/#findComment-326641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lpliveusername Posted April 17 Author Share Posted April 17 Some fans who ordered the zoetrope double vinyl received only 1 zoetrope disc and the other is a dark grey recycled one: https://twitter.com/DemetriParides/status/1780410769785368807 https://twitter.com/BIONICPRIME/status/1780633341231812770 Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/16204-papercuts-singles-collection-2000-2023-manufacturing-errors/page/2/#findComment-326650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
linkindan Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 4 hours ago, lpliveusername said: Some fans who ordered the zoetrope double vinyl received only 1 zoetrope disc and the other is a dark grey recycled one: https://twitter.com/DemetriParides/status/1780410769785368807 https://twitter.com/BIONICPRIME/status/1780633341231812770 WB right now: I FUCK UP EVERYTHING I SEE Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/16204-papercuts-singles-collection-2000-2023-manufacturing-errors/page/2/#findComment-326660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stranger Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 1 hour ago, linkindan said: WB right now: I FUCK UP EVERYTHING I SEE karma for WB because ditching THP.. 🥹 Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/16204-papercuts-singles-collection-2000-2023-manufacturing-errors/page/2/#findComment-326662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soeffingnaive92 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) 2 hours ago, Stranger said: karma for WB because ditching THP.. 🥹 Yeah like, even if THP is my least fav LP album and the least succesful by the band, leaving the album out of a GH compilation makes no sense, even more in the case of a band with relatively short discography, like LP is not Black Sabbath, make it 21 songs and put FM on it at least Edited April 18 by Somebodyangry Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/16204-papercuts-singles-collection-2000-2023-manufacturing-errors/page/2/#findComment-326666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stranger Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 1 hour ago, Somebodyangry said: Yeah like, even if THP is my least fav LP album and the least succesful by the band, leaving the album out of a GH compilation makes no sense, even more in the case of a band with relatively short discography, like LP is not Black Sabbath, make it 21 songs and put FM on it at least maybe one day, we will have the answer of why THP completely left out from this compilation. 😭 Final Masquerade deserve to be in PAPERCUTS. I'll swapped it with LOATR Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/16204-papercuts-singles-collection-2000-2023-manufacturing-errors/page/2/#findComment-326667 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soeffingnaive92 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 59 minutes ago, Stranger said: maybe one day, we will have the answer of why THP completely left out from this compilation. 😭 Final Masquerade deserve to be in PAPERCUTS. I'll swapped it with LOATR Like, LOATR was massive back in the day, but yeah FM had to be there, since it was quite big at least in alternative radio. Totally omitting an entire album out of "only" 7 records is super weird. Plus, no SOTD is super weird too since it was everywhere on the radio and peaked high on Billboard, like, higher than anything post New Divide... Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/16204-papercuts-singles-collection-2000-2023-manufacturing-errors/page/2/#findComment-326668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumtram Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 2 hours ago, Somebodyangry said: Like, LOATR was massive back in the day, but yeah FM had to be there, since it was quite big at least in alternative radio. Totally omitting an entire album out of "only" 7 records is super weird. Plus, no SOTD is super weird too since it was everywhere on the radio and peaked high on Billboard, like, higher than anything post New Divide... "QWERTY" was totally unnecessary on this release. It wasn't some unreleased b-side and on no official album. They should have included GATS instead and waited with "QWERTY" for MTM20 where it belongs. I mean, will they exclude it from MTM20 now? It was such a major song during the pre-release phase when everyone thought it might be on the album. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/16204-papercuts-singles-collection-2000-2023-manufacturing-errors/page/2/#findComment-326670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soeffingnaive92 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 23 minutes ago, Trumtram said: "QWERTY" was totally unnecessary on this release. It wasn't some unreleased b-side and on no official album. They should have included GATS instead and waited with "QWERTY" for MTM20 where it belongs. I mean, will they exclude it from MTM20 now? It was such a major song during the pre-release phase when everyone thought it might be on the album. Yeah, kinda weird move. Personally tho, I wouldn't have included GATS on a GH, like, it was nowhere near as succesful as any other song on Papercuts, FM has twice the streams of GATS on Spotify and crossed 150M on YT IIRC. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/16204-papercuts-singles-collection-2000-2023-manufacturing-errors/page/2/#findComment-326672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumtram Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 10 minutes ago, Somebodyangry said: Yeah, kinda weird move. Personally tho, I wouldn't have included GATS on a GH, like, it was nowhere near as succesful as any other song on Papercuts, FM has twice the streams of GATS on Spotify and crossed 150M on YT IIRC. True. GATS to me is like THE song from THP. it encapsulates everything this album set out to be and was an effective first single for us fans. Or to put it differently: It is more "visceral" than FM. But yeah, FM was more succesful. I guess we can agree that we are glad that UIG was notchosen over these two Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/16204-papercuts-singles-collection-2000-2023-manufacturing-errors/page/2/#findComment-326674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soeffingnaive92 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 14 minutes ago, Trumtram said: True. GATS to me is like THE song from THP. it encapsulates everything this album set out to be and was an effective first single for us fans. Or to put it differently: It is more "visceral" than FM. But yeah, FM was more succesful. I guess we can agree that we are glad that UIG was notchosen over these two I like UIG to be honest, I know I am the black sheep lol. But yeah, GATS is iconic among the fans but was not "GH level LP song". Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/16204-papercuts-singles-collection-2000-2023-manufacturing-errors/page/2/#findComment-326675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZLP-Benningstrong Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 1 hour ago, Somebodyangry said: I like UIG to be honest, I know I am the black sheep lol. But yeah, GATS is iconic among the fans but was not "GH level LP song". Doesnt surprise me that you love UIG, its almost like a prequel to OML. You dont know what you got until its gone, what doesnt kills you makes you stronger 😂😂😂 Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/16204-papercuts-singles-collection-2000-2023-manufacturing-errors/page/2/#findComment-326678 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soeffingnaive92 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) 4 minutes ago, JZLP-NaughtyNottingham said: Doesnt surprise me that you love UIG, its almost like a prequel to OML. You dont know what you got until its gone, what doesnt kills you makes you stronger 😂😂😂 Talking about the lyrics ? At least it's not "GIMME BACK WHAT'S MIIIINE" or the generic anti-something lyrics like AFN and GATS. If you're talking about the sound, UIG sounds more like modernized Meteora/LT than OML dude Edited April 18 by Somebodyangry Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/16204-papercuts-singles-collection-2000-2023-manufacturing-errors/page/2/#findComment-326679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyFox-AFCA Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 1 hour ago, JZLP-NaughtyNottingham said: Doesnt surprise me that you love UIG, its almost like a prequel to OML. You dont know what you got until its gone, what doesnt kills you makes you stronger 😂😂😂 How old are you? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/16204-papercuts-singles-collection-2000-2023-manufacturing-errors/page/2/#findComment-326682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
millytripleseven Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 (edited) I personally always found the lyrics to be the weakest element of that song. Edited April 18 by millytripleseven Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/16204-papercuts-singles-collection-2000-2023-manufacturing-errors/page/2/#findComment-326687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumtram Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 3 hours ago, Somebodyangry said: If you're talking about the sound, UIG sounds more like modernized Meteora/LT than OML dude Totally agree. This song gave me modern Meteora vibes, too, when it came out. It's the lyrics and vocal delivery that doesn't do it for me. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/16204-papercuts-singles-collection-2000-2023-manufacturing-errors/page/2/#findComment-326688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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