Skipees Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I've noticed that all the singles thing is not fully-agree-by-everybody, so let's clear things up: What are the definitions for official single or promo? Is something that played on the radio and never released (CD/digital) is a promo? And if it was only in one country? iTunes single are official or promos? Are POA and LFY are official singles? Let's start with these: Official Singles: Hybrid Theory: 2000 - One Step Closer 2001 - Crawling 2001 - Papercut 2001 - In The End Reanimation: 2002 - Pts.Of.Athrty 2002 - H! Vltg3 Meteora: 2003 - Somewhere I Belong 2003 - Faint 2003 - Numb 2004 - From The Inside 2004 - Breaking The Habit Collision Course: 2004 - Numb/Encore (with Jay-Z) 2004 - Dirt Off Your Shoulder/Lying From You [Digital Single] Minutes To Midnight: 2007 - What I've Done 2007 - Bleed It Out 2007 - Shadow Of The Day 2008 - Given Up 2008 - Leave Out All The Rest Non-album single: 2008 - We Made It (featured by Busta Rhymes) Transformers: Revenge Of The Fallen: 2009 - New Divide Download to Donate for Haiti: 2010 - Not Alone [Digital Single] A Thousand Suns: 2010 - The Catalyst 2010 - Waiting For The End 2011 - Burning In The Skies 2011 - Iridescent iTunes Festival: London 2011: 2011 - Rolling In The Deep (Adele Cover) (Live) [Digital Single] Living Things: 2012 - Burn It Down 2012 - Lost In The Echo 2012 - Powerless [Digital Single] 2013 - Castle Of Glass Recharged: 2013 - A Light That Never Comes (with Steve Aoki) The Hunting Party: 2014 - Guilty All The Same 2014 - Until It's Gone 2014 - Wastelands [Digital Single] 2014 - Rebellion [Digital Single] 2014 - Final Masquerade Neon Future II: 2015 - Darker Than Blood (featured by Steve Aoki) Promotional Singles: Hybrid Theory: 2001 - Points Of Authority Meteora: 2004 - Lying From You Living Things: 2012 - Lies Greed Misery Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10133-singles/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueSoul Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Didn't we already have a thread for this or am I starting to forget my lists? lol Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10133-singles/#findComment-199768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZLP-Benningstrong Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Didn't we already have a thread for this or am I starting to forget my lists? lol i have the same feeling, some lists are pointless and repetitive, jus tlike some LP songs lol Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10133-singles/#findComment-199769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipees Posted August 24, 2013 Author Share Posted August 24, 2013 Didn't we already have a thread for this or am I starting to forget my lists? lolWe have this or this, nothing that related to this thread. i have the same feeling, some lists are pointless and repetitive, jus tlike some LP songs lolJust like all of your comments. This is not a list actually, this is just a long question. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10133-singles/#findComment-199789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiiesel Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Promotional singles: My December, MY<DSMBR, P5HNG ME A*WY, Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10133-singles/#findComment-199803 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipees Posted August 24, 2013 Author Share Posted August 24, 2013 Promotional singles: My December, MY I know you have all of them as internal CDs, but they actually released somehow/played on the radio? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10133-singles/#findComment-199807 Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiiesel Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Define released... How am I supposed to know if it was ever played on any radio station How do you define "promotional singles" ? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10133-singles/#findComment-199814 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipees Posted August 24, 2013 Author Share Posted August 24, 2013 Define released... How am I supposed to know if it was ever played on any radio station How do you define "promotional singles" ? I opened this thread because I'm not sure either.. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10133-singles/#findComment-199815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlassCastles Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Define released... How am I supposed to know if it was ever played on any radio station How do you define "promotional singles" ? I would define it as a song released to radio as promotion for an album, but not released seperatly for purchase, like LGM or LFY Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10133-singles/#findComment-199816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipees Posted August 24, 2013 Author Share Posted August 24, 2013 I would define it as a song released to radio as promotion for an album, but not released seperatly for purchase, like LGM or LFYBut LFY, POA, and some of the Reanimation promos had also music videos, so is it "upgrade" them? It's very complicated. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10133-singles/#findComment-199817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlassCastles Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 But LFY, POA, and some of the Reanimation promos had also music videos, so is it "upgrade" them? It's very complicated. I wouldn't say a single is a song with a music video. That would mean every Reanimation song was a single. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10133-singles/#findComment-199818 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipees Posted August 24, 2013 Author Share Posted August 24, 2013 I wouldn't say a single is a song with a music video. That would mean every Reanimation song was a single.Exactly, but people consider LFY as a single, and Mark said it was played a lot on the radio. So what matters? Every song that played by the radio, even if you can't buy it is a promotional single (Because it was used to "promote" on the radio)? Edit: A promo single (short for promotional single) is a single that is made available to radio stations, nightclubs, music publications, and other media outlets by a record label for the express purpose of promoting a forthcoming commercial single or an entirely new album. A song may be released as a promotional single even if no commercial version of the single is available to buy, usually if this is the case it is for the purposes of promoting an entire album. While intended specifically for use by professional disc jockeys and not for resale, they are frequently sought out by music collectors nonetheless. The promo single is usually recognized by its limited liner notes and cover artwork as well as its unique catalog number (or the occasional lack thereof). Quite often, vinyl records will be issued in a generic cardboard jacket or white paper sleeve while CDs will be issued in a slimline jewel case or cardboard sleeve. There may also be promotion-specific terms stamped on the disc or its cover, most notably "For Promotional Use Only." Is that correct? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10133-singles/#findComment-199819 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlassCastles Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Is that correct? I would say that is correct. A promo single is a song used on radio (LFY, LGM, POA etc.) that is not released commercially and it's purpose is to promote the album as a whole, not just that individual track. If it is released commercially, then it is just a single. That's just my take. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10133-singles/#findComment-199820 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipees Posted August 24, 2013 Author Share Posted August 24, 2013 I would say that is correct. A promo single is a song used on radio (LFY, LGM, POA etc.) that is not released commercially and it's purpose is to promote the album as a whole, not just that individual track. If it is released commercially, then it is just a single. That's just my take.So with this opinion, you'll say iTunes singles are official singles? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10133-singles/#findComment-199821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlassCastles Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 So with this opinion, you'll say iTunes singles are official singles? I would say so. I still consider POWERLESS a single. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10133-singles/#findComment-199826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipees Posted August 24, 2013 Author Share Posted August 24, 2013 Promotional singles: My December, MY +High Voltage Pushing Me Away Added. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10133-singles/#findComment-199829 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lpliveusername Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Blackbirds was played on the radio. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10133-singles/#findComment-199852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePretender Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 (edited) These things always interested me so I know something about these things. Official Singles: check One Step Closer Crawling Papercut In The End Pts.Of.Athrty Somewhere I Belong Faint Numb From The Inside Breaking The Habit Numb/Encore (With Jay-Z) What I've Done Bleed It Out Shadow Of The Day Given Up Leave Out All The Rest New Divide The Catalyst Waiting For The End Burning In The Skies Iridescent Burn It Down Lost In The Echo Castle Of Glass Featured: We Made It (Featured by Busta Rhymes) iTunes Singles: New Divide (Live Single) [ I'm don't consider this as a single, just as some random release. ] Not Alone Rolling In The Deep (Adele Cover) (Live) Powerless (Only in Japan) Promomotional Singles: Points Of Authority v [ There are probably some promo cd's out there with these songs on it but I don't think there was an intention for these to be released as singles. They probably got some airplay on some local stations but that was just coincidental. v My December High Voltage Pushing Me Away Enth E Nd Frgt/10 H! Vltg3 My<Dsmbr P5hng Me A*wy Lying From You [More than just a promo, it was a radio single in the US] Dirt Off Your Shoulder/Lying From You (With Jay-Z) [iTunes only] Izzo/In The End (With Jay-Z) Points Of Authority/99 Problems/One Step Closer (With Jay-Z) No More Sorrow (Live) Blackout Waiting For The End (Non Rap Version) [Just a alternate version for radio stations, not a seperate release. See it as some kind of radio edit] Lies Greed Misery [indeed a promo] Edited August 24, 2013 by ThePretender Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10133-singles/#findComment-199855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipees Posted August 24, 2013 Author Share Posted August 24, 2013 Blackbirds was played on the radio.Really? I didn't know that.. Added. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10133-singles/#findComment-199859 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePretender Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Really? I didn't know that.. Added. Yeah, Blackbirds had a release date but was withdrawn to make room for The Catalyst. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10133-singles/#findComment-199860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipees Posted August 24, 2013 Author Share Posted August 24, 2013 New Divide (Live Single) [ I'm don't consider this as a single, just as some random release. ]It even has official cover; it's the same like the other iTunes releases.v [ There are probably some promo cd's out there with these songs on it but I don't think there was an intention for these to be released as singles. They probably got some airplay on some local stations but that was just coincidental. vYes, and some of them released as vinyls.Lying From You [More than just a promo, it was a radio single in the US]What is that means more then a promo? single without the option to buy it?Dirt Off Your Shoulder/Lying From You (With Jay-Z) [iTunes only]Link? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10133-singles/#findComment-199864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePretender Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 1) It even has official cover; it's the same like the other iTunes releases. 2) Yes, and some of them released as vinyls. 3) What is that means more then a promo? single without the option to buy it? 4) Link? 1) Oh yeah, I remember that. I think that I have the cover on my computer. 2) Didn't knew that. 3) A promo is a "light" release. The song is only sent to the radio stations and has a release date, while promo's don't have a set release date. Lying from You got to the first position in the Billboard rock charts, solely on Airplay. 4) They removed the iTunes release but I got this though. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10133-singles/#findComment-199889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipees Posted August 24, 2013 Author Share Posted August 24, 2013 A promo is a "light" release. The song is only sent to the radio stations and has a release date, while promo's don't have a set release date. Lying from You got to the first position in the Billboard rock charts, solely on Airplay. So LFY should be under "official singles"? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10133-singles/#findComment-199891 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePretender Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 So LFY should be under "official singles"? I'd say yes Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10133-singles/#findComment-199897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skipees Posted August 24, 2013 Author Share Posted August 24, 2013 I'd say yes Moved, and DOYS/LFY moved to iTunes singles. Wikipedia mentioned Wretches And Kings and I'll Be Gone as promotional singles. What do we know about these? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/10133-singles/#findComment-199898 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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