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I agree that the "start with Mike, then intro Emily" aspect was very deliberate w/ respect to the debut single, but Mike already said it existed pre-Emily and Dave as others pointed out. I'm definitely interested to hear how all the FZ songs relate in terms of when they were written, and if any were from OML sessions in 2017 or earlier that would be very interesting. I can definitely hear OML-esque harmonies in HITC, I'm sure at least one or two tracks will feel like that album in some way (but with "heavier" production). If OEO feels like a OML song it'll be really cool to have that on the same album as HITC which is essentially a Meteora track

I love the Jon Green songs so I'm excited, but I'm not gonna get my hopes too high about the diversity of the album. I'm betting it's gonna be like a MTM type sound, or maybe something like WAYW

Yeah I don't mean to bring back the same medley and I agree LOATR is really nice rn. But maybe blending Heavy into the end of FF, cutting a little QWERTY outro onto KTTK, something like that would be really welcome to me

It's a given they'll add some new FZ stuff, I'm more interested to see whether they'll introduce any cool new medleys/transitions. I really miss the ballad medley, the cool runaway/wastelands transition, papercut/blackout, the NMS/Catalyst/UIG/ATLNC encore opener etc. I know they're trying to include all the hits for their comeback but I feel like there's still plenty of space for some of this stuff

We also got Place to Start and MIUAIG, and we know of titles like Tidal Wave and Ricochet. And just bc there are a lot of demos doesn't mean they're all gonna be full songs I think an EP would be really cool, but I wonder if they're gonna drop anything experimental for a while or try to ride the high of people loving "traditional" LP. I do really want Mike to make something weird though, and I want to hear them tackle long 5+ minute songs again

You know I don't blame you for this at all. The synth over guitars feels a little bit to me like something I'd hear from 2005ish that is derivative of LP and not LP themselves. Mike's rap is also not my favorite at all, very generic and feels like an AI could write it after being trained on all his verses. That said, the quality of melody is still really strong and LP level, the power in Emily's voice is there and captures the same spirt that Chester had while being different, and the scream bridge is sick. The mixing and production has a clarity to it Mike consistently brings that other bands sometimes lack despite copying everything else. But yeah, the track is also insanely safe. The most interesting thing is the fact that the prechorus only appears once as a pre chorus and second time as an opener for the bridge, but its absence in the second verse/chorus almost feels obligatory and awkward. Otherwise, it's a structure we've heard dozens of times, and the chorus melody is strikingly similar to Already Over I still love that it exists and brings us more of the new LP, and since they're admitting the retracing of old steps with the "From Zero" branding, it works. Also, I think of all the young listeners not intimately familiar with the LP formula who are now hearing it from the ones who do it best. The rap/rock combo will blow the minds of everyone ready for it who weren't around for the past. But I also really hope there is some interesting new territory on the album for LP, some breakdowns that borrow from sub-genres they haven't explored yet, or just a really good ballad that deserves to sit alongside others the way FM did despite not being that fundamentally different from stuff like SOD or WID.

I don't think we know for sure, but there was a "leak" the other day with audio sung by someone different, sounded soft and mellow. Just a snippet of the chorus. It could be fake, could have been placeholder material to keep the real track under wraps, who knows.

Yeah. While I do love the track, I find myself a little sad that for the first time it feels like LP is retreading without really pushing the envelope on new sounds. That is, until you think about the context you describe, and it also just makes total business sense to roll out their signature sound with the comeback That said, I really hope at least one track on the album is different and ballad-y, filling the place that BTH does on Meteora on FZ

With LITE and APFMH, I'm gonna guess the theme of the slot is "high energy songs Mike is proud of", which would make me think Wastelands is a possibility (though it's kinda similar to HITC), Rebellion or maybe Blackout? Check his tier rating lol

It makes a lot of sense to pick this as the next release, it's so LP, I feel like this is gonna get even more pickup than TEM.

Same, I still can't believe the full album is done and they managed to not share a single picture of it all this time. Not even a candid studio story from Mike on insta

Yeah I noticed that too, I feel like they need to mix up the tone on that to match the power it has in the studio track, even if that means forsaking some "accuracy"

Debut wishlist: - Powerless - Mark The Graves - More The Victim - Roads Untraveled (I know it appeared at MS and HB shows)

yeah they honestly nailed it, amazing nothing leaked. I wonder if there were codenames and place where people didn't know they were working on LP stuff, surely there had to have been

Predictions for B set: 1. KTTK gets rotated with QWERTY, Wastelands or All For Nothing 2. FF gets rotated for NCSM, Heavy or maybe another OML song 3. Full version of Lost gets in somehow (not sure what it would replace tho, maybe My December?) Wishlist: Halfway Right debut, Mark The Graves debut, return of Rebellion or GATS

I think it's about the feeling of wanting to be with someone or impress them or fit in and then realizing that you never get a fulfillment from it. You change yourself, try so many times, you want to feel a part of something (relationship, band, club, job) and it never works out. You realize that thing you chased isn't actually gonna ever make you happy, it leaves you feeling empty.

I love it, they are really on full blast here. I hope they do tiny desk and other common stuff

I thought it might be the one later in the show, but none of the interludes are labelled that way on the setlist so I don't think it's there. I think the guitars/drums are just one new medley with that requiem/COG/Numb/ITE mashup

I'm really curious to hear her on softer songs like anything from OML, Iridescent, Shadow of the Day etc. And I really hope for the live premiere of some songs we never got. Powerless, Mark The Graves and Halfway Right would all be really cool to me.

Love this type of content, hopefully they do it for other shows, too. WFTE would be really nice Probably, hopefully we get it from a future concert though

Before the solo thing? He had already released and played shows for PT Also seems like he just recorded with her for the sake of it, but not to make LP stuff. Probably took at least til after HT20 for him to seriously start imagining new LP stuff outside of anniversary stuff

Agreed, I think if there is an LPU demo CD it will be mostly random Mike beats since 2019ish with a verse or two by him, and maybe one Emily song or demo. I also expect though that LPU CDs not come back until next year to create a bit of a buffer and time for more material. Then they could include a lot of live recordings too

Best guess I can think of, maybe different tense like "I'm giving you everything I have" It's a shame there are no longer songs here, I really want a new 5min+ track from them. I hope some of these songs are weird, and I hope a couple flow into each other ATS style to make for a longer listening experience I wonder if the LPU stuff this year will have much from this album. I imagine at least one or two things w Emily to reinforce her, and then some throwaway Mike instrumentals. Whether they'll mix in anything pre 2017 would be interesting

I'm sympathetic to whataboutism and didn't mean for it to sound that way. I think it is legitimate to critique her and scientology if you want, of course. I was mores echoing the sentiment that it's a lot of virtue signaling, and that a lot of coverage and talking points here aren't actually coming from critical thinking but from people being like "oh yeah, I've heard that thing is bad, let me chime in and say I also think it's unacceptable". I think those people actually need to ask themselves why they find it unacceptable, and why they're chiming in on one moral front and not countless others. That kind of reflection gets you being productive and actually choosing your issue to meaningfully contribute to rather than just yell about it on twitter. And yeah I think this was really taking shape during AO, TEM sounds like it could have been on an EP with AO imo.

Exactly, bashing scientology is fine but doing it in a vacuum is ignorant. It has objectively caused less harm than mainstream religions, and popular talking points apply to those mainstream religions as well. Everything I've seen people say about scientology here could be said about any religion, outside of the specifics of her friendship with one person.