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Yeah I feel like this is more likely. I don't see Mike going crazy with the LP name and releasing EPs every year, I think he still really loves the ideas of albums and for huge artists like LP they can still do it. Plus, I wouldn't really wanna see the LP discography diluted with repetitive tracks that might come if they feel pressured to drop an EP every year. I already kinda feel iffy about HITC offering nothing new to the band, but can accept it because of the "comeback" context and Emily showing off the scream. The set also is really more of a greatest hits set than ever, so I kinda wanna hear new stuff that really contrasts with those formulas in the future. But if they do 1 or 2 one-off tracks that are guaranteed to be huge because of a movie tie-in, and/or something really unique like ALTNC was because of the collaborative nature of it, I'm all for that. Like a mini reanimation 2.0 that continues weird stuff like the 100 gecs collab would be so up my alley One thing we all need to keep in mind is Mike's potential to turn on all these songs on a whim lol. We still haven't heard the original THP demos but did hear so many times about how he just trashed everything for THP sound, and I'm sure he's done a few things in the last few years like attempt hyperpop or make more songs that sounded like Happy Endings that he eventually changed his mind on. Who knows what he'll wanna make in 6 months when it actually makes business sense to drop more stuff. Personally I want another ATS weird cycle that just pushes the boundaries of the LP sound further.

After seeing how Lost and MTV were just set aside with no fanfare for 20 years, I wonder how much great material from 2019ish-2025 we'll have to wait decades for lol

There is none and there is no difference w the MV audio either. Feels like ppl are imagining differences when it's really them just focusing on or hearing new things on subsequent listens. That, or there was a very poor source out there besides the one which was 100% high quality and reflective of what we got

Yeah I do agree that they've always been trendy. Also, more songs are short than ever, so it makes sense someone like Mike would just naturally dig the trend and it would make its way into his writing whether he's realizing it or not On the other hand, we've seen Primo become IBG, so I feel like it's pretty plausible that some of these tracks were longer and trimmed for the sake of fitting a vision that maybe didn't necessarily let the song breathe as much as it could've. Whether that's true of OEO or not, it definitely makes me feel like it needs room to breathe sometimes. Like it's a beautiful ballad, let it have some longer dramatic moments and really live in that space I think of every OML track as being pretty lean, and yet every track on that album is longer than OEO!

One thing idk how I feel about is how blisteringly fast this song moves from one section to another. It feels especially apparent in the bridge with the "are we over each other" part ending as soon as it possibly can for the soft part (which I love), and that part immediately being thrown back into a final big chorus. It's one thing to make a song punchy, it's another to cater to today's short attention spans. I can't help but feel like they might have slightly over-optimized the runtime of songs like this and the album in general for brevity And I feel like the video kinda exemplifies this with how fast it moves. There's like no context for the relationship between them before the arguing besides one shot of them holding arms in the parking lot. It feels like a storyboard more than a video almost because of how brief it has to be. Feels like this song would've benefitted from the COG treatment with an extended into for the mv Cool to have LGBTQ representation in an LP video though, even if not really that explicit

The lyrics and melody are very OML, the instrumental in the first verse is very OML, there are no vocals more aggressive than TTM. Even if we didn't know Jon Green was involved I feel like the OML comparison is pretty evident, especially with FF and WAYW considered as OML Another factor is that almost every second of the song is driven by vocals. No guitar solo, no synth hook, no walls or guitarz. Very OML

I love the song, and I probably like it more than HITC because unlike that song it feels like it's adding new sounds and ideas to the LP catalog. The melodies and lyrics are strong and very OML (hello JG), the production is really a mix of almost every album so far, and Emily's performance is great. I wish they really let her off the leash with a few more measures at the end to just go for it and do more vocal layers I agree it's a bit surprising to see something so soft/different so early, but I love to see it. I think a lot of new/casual fans who are just hyped for this cycle will grow to really like it and it'll expand their tastes accordingly, and it also reminds everyone that LP is more than their top 10 guitar-driven tracks on Spotify. I seriously cannot imagine asking for more loud guitars after 2 songs with classic LP guitar walls coming out of nowhere and more heavy songs on the album confirmed lol. LP has been more than loud guitars for 13+ years now and none of this was ever a guarantee, and they're out playing the heavy classics on the road, too. Fans of heavy LP are getting absolutely fed and now fans of the other stuff are getting OEO (which is still heavier than anything on OML, half of ATS and LT)

Maybe official release next week, but for the scavenger to be worthwhile I think it should yield an unlisted YouTube video link or something a few days before so we can hear it early

I'm embarrassed I didn't think of that but you're right, a bonus edition would be awesome. But so far they haven't really done that properly yet have they? Like outside the 2 anniversaries, the special editions either have live stuff or stuff that came out for another reason (High Voltage as a b-side on singles at a time where they had only one album, Blackbirds for 8 bit rebellion, etc.)

The dude made a great solo song that he liked enough to release and talk about, and doing the sessions with LP songs and other singers paved the way for the re-introduction of LP on multiple fronts. The EP doesn't even have remixes really. If those are remixes, then The Requiem is a remix of The Catalyst. If he didn't name them variations of AO, people would've just been hating on how they're not "full songs" like with ATS The label probably came up with the "new era" thing along with the pushing for the gaming scape stuff, or maybe he was just bored. Either way, I don't see how it's any more or less pointless than any other one-off singles. Were New Divide and ALTNC pointless? I think it's still a great song, the FM mix and Nothing's There mix are both amazing, and I admire how much he put into that cycle now knowing that he was cooking LP 2.0 the whole time, not to mention Papercuts right after it

I agree that the "start with Mike, then intro Emily" aspect was very deliberate w/ respect to the debut single, but Mike already said it existed pre-Emily and Dave as others pointed out. I'm definitely interested to hear how all the FZ songs relate in terms of when they were written, and if any were from OML sessions in 2017 or earlier that would be very interesting. I can definitely hear OML-esque harmonies in HITC, I'm sure at least one or two tracks will feel like that album in some way (but with "heavier" production). If OEO feels like a OML song it'll be really cool to have that on the same album as HITC which is essentially a Meteora track

I love the Jon Green songs so I'm excited, but I'm not gonna get my hopes too high about the diversity of the album. I'm betting it's gonna be like a MTM type sound, or maybe something like WAYW

Yeah I don't mean to bring back the same medley and I agree LOATR is really nice rn. But maybe blending Heavy into the end of FF, cutting a little QWERTY outro onto KTTK, something like that would be really welcome to me

It's a given they'll add some new FZ stuff, I'm more interested to see whether they'll introduce any cool new medleys/transitions. I really miss the ballad medley, the cool runaway/wastelands transition, papercut/blackout, the NMS/Catalyst/UIG/ATLNC encore opener etc. I know they're trying to include all the hits for their comeback but I feel like there's still plenty of space for some of this stuff

We also got Place to Start and MIUAIG, and we know of titles like Tidal Wave and Ricochet. And just bc there are a lot of demos doesn't mean they're all gonna be full songs I think an EP would be really cool, but I wonder if they're gonna drop anything experimental for a while or try to ride the high of people loving "traditional" LP. I do really want Mike to make something weird though, and I want to hear them tackle long 5+ minute songs again

You know I don't blame you for this at all. The synth over guitars feels a little bit to me like something I'd hear from 2005ish that is derivative of LP and not LP themselves. Mike's rap is also not my favorite at all, very generic and feels like an AI could write it after being trained on all his verses. That said, the quality of melody is still really strong and LP level, the power in Emily's voice is there and captures the same spirt that Chester had while being different, and the scream bridge is sick. The mixing and production has a clarity to it Mike consistently brings that other bands sometimes lack despite copying everything else. But yeah, the track is also insanely safe. The most interesting thing is the fact that the prechorus only appears once as a pre chorus and second time as an opener for the bridge, but its absence in the second verse/chorus almost feels obligatory and awkward. Otherwise, it's a structure we've heard dozens of times, and the chorus melody is strikingly similar to Already Over I still love that it exists and brings us more of the new LP, and since they're admitting the retracing of old steps with the "From Zero" branding, it works. Also, I think of all the young listeners not intimately familiar with the LP formula who are now hearing it from the ones who do it best. The rap/rock combo will blow the minds of everyone ready for it who weren't around for the past. But I also really hope there is some interesting new territory on the album for LP, some breakdowns that borrow from sub-genres they haven't explored yet, or just a really good ballad that deserves to sit alongside others the way FM did despite not being that fundamentally different from stuff like SOD or WID.

I don't think we know for sure, but there was a "leak" the other day with audio sung by someone different, sounded soft and mellow. Just a snippet of the chorus. It could be fake, could have been placeholder material to keep the real track under wraps, who knows.

Yeah. While I do love the track, I find myself a little sad that for the first time it feels like LP is retreading without really pushing the envelope on new sounds. That is, until you think about the context you describe, and it also just makes total business sense to roll out their signature sound with the comeback That said, I really hope at least one track on the album is different and ballad-y, filling the place that BTH does on Meteora on FZ

With LITE and APFMH, I'm gonna guess the theme of the slot is "high energy songs Mike is proud of", which would make me think Wastelands is a possibility (though it's kinda similar to HITC), Rebellion or maybe Blackout? Check his tier rating lol

It makes a lot of sense to pick this as the next release, it's so LP, I feel like this is gonna get even more pickup than TEM.

Same, I still can't believe the full album is done and they managed to not share a single picture of it all this time. Not even a candid studio story from Mike on insta

Yeah I noticed that too, I feel like they need to mix up the tone on that to match the power it has in the studio track, even if that means forsaking some "accuracy"

Debut wishlist: - Powerless - Mark The Graves - More The Victim - Roads Untraveled (I know it appeared at MS and HB shows)

yeah they honestly nailed it, amazing nothing leaked. I wonder if there were codenames and place where people didn't know they were working on LP stuff, surely there had to have been

Predictions for B set: 1. KTTK gets rotated with QWERTY, Wastelands or All For Nothing 2. FF gets rotated for NCSM, Heavy or maybe another OML song 3. Full version of Lost gets in somehow (not sure what it would replace tho, maybe My December?) Wishlist: Halfway Right debut, Mark The Graves debut, return of Rebellion or GATS