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Hmmm... A school project promoting quasi-illegal activities. Guess I went to the wrong school!

I love when we get to delete shows from this list.

Won't happen due to: a ) lack of interest by tapers since DSPs were released b ) lack of interest by those trading since everyone with a cell phone claims to have video recorded and who wants audio when we have DSPs? c ) the RT/NT bullshit of the last 5+ years So then that's ticketmaster, the venue and basecamp who would want to be paid at least a handling fee for a DSP. It's a model that won't work from a profit standpoint - at a $10 price point, once they've paid Pooch to mix with how few they sell, they're operating at a loss. I can't blame them for pulling the plug.

Same opinion. Not a fan.

How many tapes are there in total?

As for shipping, if a deal is reached, let me know and I'll take care of that. Working for a freight company has its perks.

Thank you. My head hurt for awhile....

My gut instinct is that they're 2 different songs. At the time the demo CD containing She Couldn't was produced, they likely would have still been referring to it as 'Pictureboard' if that was in fact the working title, especially since that was the name later registered with BMI.

Wondered this myself, but I doubt it. Had we been told we couldn't release it when we got it, I'd say there might be a better chance at them being the same track. Mike barely even talked about She Couldn't, only confirming that it was a track that they recorded in 1999 while working on HT. While he didn't say it was written then, the use of the sample from B-Boy Document 99 would mean at the very least the track having been re-mixed or re-produced in 1999 as Pictureboard would have been written years before.

No words. Go get it!

STP is holding up the next LP album. (Sorry, had to do it.)

I recorded it.

DFC originally started as dead, front & center as opposed to LOC/ROC for left of and right of center. Became dead fucking center as more shows were uploaded to the internet. It's assumed that these are in relation to the placement of FOH.

More show/venue: HOF - Rock n Roll Hall of Fame AAC - Almost Acoustic Xmas TOTP - Top of the Pops SS - Summer Sonic VMA - MTV Video Music Awards SNL - Saturday Night Live

Venues and Shows RAR-Rock am Ring RIP-Rock im Park RIR-Rock in Rio HOB-House of Blues

LOL @ no Delaware. Even back in the small club days, it made very little sense to play anywhere in Delaware as Wilmington, Newark and Dover are all relatively close to Philly. I honestly can't imagine some other states ever being played in again either unless they do another LPU 2003-type tour.

Did you try regular mail? Pony Express? Singing telegram? Carrier pigeon?

I'm going to go out on a limb and say the next 'holy grail' show will pop up sooner than we all expect. Just like Jonas said, we've had stuff fall into our laps totally unexpectedly over the years. Mountain View 04 was obtained at random when the taper contacted Mark and offered it to him. Kings College, Palladium 01 (as well as She Couldn't and Plaster demos) popped up on eBay. Camden 04 was totally unknown to us only a short time before we released it. MFR was thought to have possibly been lost before we got it. The London workprint was a surprise addition in trying to obtain MFR. As far as I'm concerned, the only footage at this point which has 'holy grail' status is the Xero show, and that's not even 100% confirmed/documented. No offense to anyone's want lists in this thread, but very few audience sourced shows are going to have the quality to live up to the hype of really wanting it, except in cases where it's a show that the person wanting it attended that particular show. After Xero, those that I might consider for such status: The Ostrick tapes (though the owner seems to want enough $ for a down payment on a house for the tapes). Smokeout 03 The Roxy/One Step Closer video taping Mexico 02 (which we THOUGHT we were getting. Not even going there...) After that... Things like Rock am Ring 07 and similar shows are unlikely to be obtained (by us, mind you) because they're being held by the copyright owner or withheld at the band's/label's wishes. Those above are more likely to end up in our possession.

The reference was to the Rock n Coke show in 2009.

If it didn't exist, then how did a full audio source leak from the show?

Interesting theory, just wish I could have afforded to bid back then!

You were like 12 then. What would you have done, sold your Pokemon cards to help?

Same difference. Short of kidnapping someone on staff, what's the likelyhood of getting it?

Just a suggestion - anything that's listed as proshot and in the possession of the taper only should likely be removed. We know the full, unedited Collision Course show from the Roxy exists but what's the point of listing it? Such sources are highly, highly unlikely to ever circulate and given the fact that I've been involved in circulating many similar sources, I can tell you they're getting harder and more costly to obtain, if even at all possible. Guilty as charged on a couple of counts myself!

Was the audio from Camden video not good enough?