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Very cool, but you can definitely tell something wasn't right with Chester's voice during this period, particularly when you compare it to how he just sounded the other night in Tucson. He even sounds hoarse when he says "make some noise for Travis Barker" after the song's over, it's pretty rare for his voice to get shot to the point where you can hear it when he's talking. Glad he seems to have turned it around during the last few months.
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2014.05.30 - Lisboa, Portugal - Rock In Rio VI
Astat replied to hahninator's topic in Previous Show Discussion
Josh Homme from QOTSA is tearing apart a heckler right now. FYI, at least on the U.S. webcast - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-dCpkxeheI - you actually CAN rewind the footage. So if anybody misses part of the show (people planning on recording it in particular), this is going to save you a whole bunch of trouble! No reason we shouldn't be able to get a full recording of this one up within 24 hours. I'll be recording audio "just in case," like I always do, but I'm predicting that a video source will be posted pretty quickly and render my recording pointless. If one doesn't pop up for whatever reason, I'll gladly post the audio. -
2014.05.30 - Lisboa, Portugal - Rock In Rio VI
Astat replied to hahninator's topic in Previous Show Discussion
The Rock Am Ring organizers don't even know where the show is taking place now and it's 8 days away. I'm not about to trust this statement. -
8. Album version, demo version, promo version, radio edit #1, radio edit #2, video edit, instrumental, "scratchapella." I made a thread about this topic years ago but it's probably outdated by now. I don't think I knew about the 2 different radio edits at the time.
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I've said about all I will say regarding this story, but figured I'd share a random tidbit: Sublime's manager Cheez is Mike "Cheezboy" Brown, the same guy Chester played with in Bucket of Weenies. No surprise he went out of his way to talk about Chester being cool while pointing the blame at Brad. What I'll leave my opinion at is that I can honestly see Brad doing something like this (more so than just about any other member of the band anyway), and it's definitely not the "cool" thing to do in this situation. However, Linkin Park has had a "no drugs/alcohol back stage" rule that's been pretty strictly enforced since at least 2007, and their management expects that to apply to everybody backstage at their shows, including opening bands. When LP has the headlining slot on a festival like this, other bands on the bill are expected to follow their rules. Rome Ramirez also has a VERY bad reputation for being an absolute douchebag with one of the worst cases of entitlement syndrome imaginable. He was a completely unknown kid in the music business who had the Sublime frontman position basically handed to him on a silver platter when he was only 20 years old, and he's thought of himself as some kind of big-shot ever since. Boo hoo, you got your weed taken away that you probably had some record label intern run out and buy for you with money that wasn't even yours (every record label has people like this, they're called "runners." Their job is literally to run around and make any purchase an artist needs so they don't have to do it themselves, and drugs are no exception). No charges were filed, nobody got hurt, and you probably turned around and got yourself another basically-free stash of weed the next day anyway. Quit bitching and be thankful you didn't get booted out of the show or arrested. I feel really bad that Josh Freese is stuck playing in a band with this guy.
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...How anyone can think that singing sounds like anyone other than Mike is beyond me. It's not 2007 anymore, we've heard him sing on a ton of stuff by now. It's him.
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There are multiple interviews from the Minutes to Midnight-present era where Chester says he smokes weed. I haven't seen him say anything about it in maybe 3 years or so, so it's POSSIBLE he's quit since then, but either way, he was still doing it for years after he quit all the other stuff he was doing. Trust me, that's not the kind of thing I'd openly comment on if I hadn't seen Chester publicly talk about it himself.
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2014.05.24 - Tucson, AZ - KFMA Day 2014
Astat replied to hahninator's topic in Previous Show Discussion
Guitar was in the wrong tuning. -
2014.05.24 - Tucson, AZ - KFMA Day 2014
Astat replied to hahninator's topic in Previous Show Discussion
He did sound pretty good! Definitely more "2007 Chester" than "2013 Chester" on this performance. Hopefully he can find a happy medium on this tour, I don't expect him to ever sound like he did in 2004 again, but he's had a particularly rough last couple of years. -
2014.05.24 - Tucson, AZ - KFMA Day 2014
Astat replied to hahninator's topic in Previous Show Discussion
Pretty confident on the setlist now! All we're really missing videos of are WFTE (which we know was the 2012 version anyway), the drum transition outro from LITE into Crawling, and most of Crawling/New Divide. Updates I would make to the LPL show page: Given Up: "Ext. Outro" > "Ext. Outro w/extra note" - It did have the extra note at the end like it has in recent years. Blackout: "Shortened (Intro and Partial Bridge Instrumental Only); Ext. Papercut Beat Outro Transition" > "Shortened (Intro and Partial Outro Instrumental Only); Ext. Papercut Beat Outro Transition" - The second portion of Blackout is basically the ending of the song without vocals, not the bridge (which would be the part with Joe chopping up Chester's scream samples). With You: "2012 Ext. Intro; Shortened (No Second Verse or Second Chorus)" > "Shortened (No First Chorus or Second Verse)" - With You did NOT have the 2012 intro, it was the album version intro. Also, they actually cut out the FIRST chorus, as the chorus they played after the first verse was a double-length chorus, which means it would be the second chorus if you go off the album version. Runaway: "Shortened (Up Through First Chorus Only); Ext. Outro Transition w/ Wastelands Verse 1" > "Shortened (Intro/First Verse/Chorus Only); Ext. Outro Transition w/ Wastelands Verse 1" - Wording on this just sounds awkward the way it is right now. Joe Solo Medley: "w/ Victimized Rmx, Buy Myself, CFTI, Session, P4MH Rmx" - "w/Victimized Remix, Buy Myself, CFTI, Session, PLC4. MIE HÆD" - Pretty sure this formatting would still fit, there are longer notes on the page. Burn it Down: "2014 intro" should not be there, the intro was completely normal once Joe was finished with his solo spot (this also needs to be removed from Show Notes). ALTNC: "Shortened (No Second Verse or Second Chorus)" > "Shortened (No Second Verse, Second Chorus, or Bridge)" - The bridge was skipped too. Crawling: "Shortened" > "Shortened, w/faster tempo" - Crawling was played faster than usual, presumably to fit better with New Divide. In Show Notes, a note should be made that there were further technical difficulties with Brad's guitar on Points of Authority, as well as difficulties with samples on several songs (Numb, Until it's Gone, ALTNC). "'Castle Of Glass' (labeled the "Experience Version") was performed with an instrumental mashup with the M. Shinoda Recharged remix of the song." - Calling it an "instrumental mashup" is incorrect, there were vocals. It was just a mashup of the album version with Mike's remix (only the intro/first verse came from the album version). The hip-hop medley also incorporates part of the instrumental from Wretches, which isn't mentioned. I also don't think the Sublime weed incident should be something that deserves being included in the show notes, particularly when half of the story is likely bullshit anyway. -
2014.05.24 - Tucson, AZ - KFMA Day 2014
Astat replied to hahninator's topic in Previous Show Discussion
Length of the Blackout interlude from the time it starts to the time the Papercut beat starts (which doesn't include the portion where the Blackout outro is mashed up with the Papercut intro): 1:36. Length of the Robot Boy interlude: 2 minutes. I see your ability to grossly over-exaggerate things hasn't dwindled over the years. -
Screencap of my comment on the article from thePRP about the Sublime incident, in case it gets denied by the mods for whatever reason. This basically sums up the situation:
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2014.05.24 - Tucson, AZ - KFMA Day 2014
Astat replied to hahninator's topic in Previous Show Discussion
I like the idea of the titles just being "Joe Solo Medley"/"Mike Solo Medley" because then it frees up the right column to list what songs were actually in the medley. Also keeps open the possibility of them adding different things to the medleys in the future without us having to change the names of anything. No encore after Faint, I'm pretty sure. The live tweets from LPA were coming pretty quick and they never mentioned anything about an encore. The UIG videos also don't seem like they're just coming back out on stage either. -
Considering he smoked it for the majority of his adult life, I find that highly unlikely to be true. That whole "LP called the cops on Sublime" story is literally one of the most face palm-inducingly stupid things I've ever heard come out of the Linkin Park fanbase.
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Rob's drum kit is identical to the previous tour with the exception of having a double bass pedal, as far as I can tell. Mike actually has 4 Pintech drum pads, 2 on each side of his keyboard. I'm assuming it's the same gear they used to use for Wretches and Kings/Blackout, they just split it in half. Not sure what he's using it for either though. Pretty sure you're right that the Nord is a Stage 2, Mike also has an Electro 3 but it's one of his main home studio keyboards so I doubt he'd pull it out of there to take on the road. There's a tablet to the left of the Maschine, I'm assuming it's a Microsoft Surface like what Joe's using. There's also something barely visible below the tablet, but who knows what it is. Yes, Brad previously used the Fernandes Sustainer for the full live version of No More Sorrow because he had to switch between the EBow part and the strumming parts. With the new Until it's Gone intro, since it's just that guitar part by itself with a break before he has to play anything else, he can actually use the EBow (which is why he can play that part on his Strat, which doesn't have a Sustainer modification). Also, the band's entire guitar backline (amps/speakers/effects) has been redone on this tour. I don't have the exact details yet, but I do know that they're using the Fractal Audio Axe-FX II as a replacement for most of the rack-mounted effects and preamps they'd been using since Minutes to Midnight. I know the Axe-FX didn't replace EVERYTHING, but it's definitely the primary piece of their guitar rigs now.
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2014.05.24 - Tucson, AZ - KFMA Day 2014
Astat replied to hahninator's topic in Previous Show Discussion
Yeah, Robot Boy is a standalone thing so it should definitely be by itself. If you keep Blackout separate it just needs to have (w/Papercut beat outro transition) or something as a note. Bleed it Out's had the extended intro/outro for so long I just forgot to put them on there. I'm torn on the "Mike Solo Medley" thing. On the one hand, it's consistent with the printed setlist, on the other hand, it's actually performed by Mike and Joe, while Joe's solo spot is truly a solo spot. -
2014.05.24 - Tucson, AZ - KFMA Day 2014
Astat replied to hahninator's topic in Previous Show Discussion
Latest incarnation of the setlist: *01. The Catalyst/The Requiem (Mash-up intro) *02. Guilty All the Same *03. Given Up (w/extended outro) 04. Points of Authority (w/short extended intro) *05. One Step Closer (w/extended outro) *06. Papercut (shortened, w/Blackout instrumental intro) *07. With You (Shortened) *08. Runaway (shortened, transition outro w/Wastelands verse 1) *09. Wastelands *10. Castle of Glass (Experience version, piano transition outro) *11. Ballad Medley (LOATR/SOTD/Iridescent) *12. Robot Boy (Instrumental interlude) *13. Joe Hahn Solo Medley (Victimized - Recharged/Session/Buy Myself Remix/Cure For the Itch/PLC.4 MIE HAED) *13. Burn it Down 14. Waiting For the End (Until it Breaks intro, Wall of Noise outro) *15. Hip-Hop Medley 2.0 (Wretches and Kings/Remember the Name/Skin to Bone - Recharged) *16. Numb (w/Numb/Encore intro/outro and first verse guitar) *17. In the End 18. Faint (w/extended outro) *19. Until It's Gone (w/extended The Catalyst/No More Sorrow mash-up intro, extended transition outro) 20. A Light That Never Comes (shortened) 21. Lost in the Echo (shortened, drum outro) 22. Crawling (shortened) 23. New Divide (shortened) *24. What I've Done (w/extended guitar solo bridge) *25. Bleed it Out (w/drum solo and The Catalyst bridge) In addition to the 2012 Numb/Encore outro and the new intro that actually samples Numb/Encore, Brad also played the Numb/Encore guitar part during the first verse of Numb. I also combined Blackout and Papercut since the Papercut beat is incorporated into the end of the Blackout part. Still looking for videos of POA, WFTE, Faint, and ALTNC through New Divide. This album? Dude, they haven't been using half-step down tuning with any kind of regularity since Minutes to Midnight (and even on that album, it was only used on about half the album). The only song on ATS/Living Things that's tuned down half a step is Powerless. -
2014.05.24 - Tucson, AZ - KFMA Day 2014
Astat replied to hahninator's topic in Previous Show Discussion
Totally missed the fact that Until It's Gone had an extended outro transition into ALTNC, lol: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEtk7Y4RBdY -
2014.05.24 - Tucson, AZ - KFMA Day 2014
Astat replied to hahninator's topic in Previous Show Discussion
Sold My Soul to Yo Mama contains a bunch of original music recorded specifically for that song. This does not. -
What the hell is so bad about digicams? If it records in HD with 30fps or better and the audio quality is decent, isn't that just as good, if not better than what camcorders were capable of a few years ago? This isn't 2004 anymore when digicams recorded mono audio with a max resolution of 480p at 24fps, lol. I'll never understand the snobby "I'd rather have incomplete song clips recorded with professional gear than a complete digicam source" attitude that's popped up in the taping community the last few years. My video recordings are done with a Sony DSC-W690, they're better than a bunch of the other shit you see on Youtube and DEFINITELY better than anything people put on Instagram, and I'm not sorry about it. Judge recordings with your eyes and ears, not with your wallet, people.
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2014.05.24 - Tucson, AZ - KFMA Day 2014
Astat replied to hahninator's topic in Previous Show Discussion
I'd say keep the song "title" in the left column as "Medley: Wretches and Kings/Remember the Name/Skin to Bone (Recharged)" (you can call it "Hip-Hop Medley 2.0" if you want, that's up to you), and then in the right column with the song notes put something like (w/Wretches and Kings/Remember the Name/Skin to Bone/In My Remains instrumental). Hell of a long note for one song entry, but probably the best way to do it. -
http://lplive.net/shows/db/stonetemplepilots/20140401 "The setlist order was completely different than what the band had been playing in 2012." Should say 2013, not 2012. Not really something that NEEDS to be corrected, per se, but I noticed the Stone Temple Pilots forum under "LP / LIVE" is the only subforum in that group that isn't protected. Probably an oversight when it was created, since it's a newer subforum.
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2014.05.24 - Tucson, AZ - KFMA Day 2014
Astat replied to hahninator's topic in Previous Show Discussion
I'm pretty much set on the naming for most things, just kind of on the fence about some of the "interlude"-type stuff, whether to make certain things their own track or list them as intros to other songs. I think my deciding factor will be whether or not they contain parts of the song they're leading into, like how The Catalyst/No More Sorrow mashup has samples from Until It's Gone in it and leads straight into UIG. Really anxious to see the intro to POA, the entire Robot Boy/Joe solo sequence leading into BID, and the shortened versions of ALTNC/LITE/Crawling/New Divide at the end of the show. -
2014.05.24 - Tucson, AZ - KFMA Day 2014
Astat replied to hahninator's topic in Previous Show Discussion
Here's my latest incarnation of the setlist. Songs with a * are ones that have substantial videos posted so far (not necessarily full song videos, but enough to tell what's going on): *01. The Catalyst/The Requiem (Mash-up intro) *02. Guilty All the Same *03. Given Up (w/extended outro) 04. Points of Authority (w/short extended intro) *05. One Step Closer (w/extended outro) 06. Blackout (Shortened - instrumental intro only) 07. Papercut (shortened) *08. With You (2012 intro, shortened) *09. Runaway (shortened, transition outro w/Wastelands verse 1) *10. Wastelands *11. Castle of Glass (Experience version, piano transition outro) *12. Ballad Medley (LOATR/SOTD/Iridescent) 13. Robot Boy (Instrumental interlude) 14. Burn it Down (w/extended intro) 15. Waiting For the End (Until it Breaks intro, Wall of Noise outro) *16. Hip-Hop Medley 2.0 (Wretches and Kings/Remember the Name/Skin to Bone - Recharged) *17. Numb (Numb/Encore intro/outro) *18. In the End 19. Faint (w/extended outro) *20. Until It's Gone (w/extended The Catalyst/No More Sorrow mash-up intro) 21. A Light That Never Comes (shortened) 22. Lost in the Echo (shortened, drum outro) 23. Crawling (shortened) 24. New Divide (shortened) *25. What I've Done (w/extended guitar solo bridge) *26. Bleed it Out (w/drum solo and The Catalyst bridge) I combined the Catalyst/NMS thing into the UIG intro since it also contains samples from UIG itself. Papercut/Blackout may get the same treatment once a video of it surfaces, depending on how it was arranged. No idea yet on the Robot Boy interlude thing, since there's supposed to be a "Joe solo" in between there too. That may end up being condensed into one track too. Also, big note on Runaway/Wastelands - there's a transition there. After the chorus of Runaway, Mike raps the first verse of Wastelands over a variation of the beat from the Runaway bridge. The tempo slows down during this transition, THEN Wastelands starts, so Mike actually ends up rapping the first verse of the song twice. 1. It wasn't that bad. 2. No way would they go to the trouble of rehearsing something that unique and only play it once, especially for a relatively insignificant show like this. 3. It sounded a hell of a lot better than the album version of COG did live. -
I have the complete ATS and Living Things tour pick sets (36-43 and 50-59 on your list). If any of those would be helpful, let me know. BTW, "Tortex" isn't a company, it's just a specific line of picks that Dunlop manufactures.