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That's completely different. It's Goin' Down features at least two Linkin Park members and was played live at several Linkin Park shows, one of which is included in the 20th anniversary box set for Hybrid Theory. On the Meteora 20th anniversary release we got new live performances of the song (even if partial). Some early promotional releases of the song even listed it as a collaboration with Linkin Park (instead of "Mike Shinoda and Mr. Hahn" like in the official releases). I do think, however, that they missed the opportunity of releasing Rock And Roll (Could Never Hip Hop Like This) Part 2 in the Meteora box set and introducing a great song to casual Linkin Park fans. I mean, it does feature both Mike and Chester, the two voices of Linkin Park. Agreed. An anniversary edition every 10 years could be a good idea, but no need to do a huge box set everytime. Some bands only release 1 show or a few bonus tracks in aniversary editions. Could be a good way to release the material they kept in the vault because they didn't consider it good enough for the 20th anniversary box set. Songs like Ashes, Turn To Grey, etc. would be good choices for bonus tracks in those smaller releases. Fans have been dying to hear them since Jeff Blue's book came out.

Link here: https://linkinpedia.com/index.php?title=It's_Goin'_Down#Studio

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Everybody knows that you're Sean, so it doesn't count.

It's not.

In Germany. You literally have to physically be in the country and go to specific locations to unlock the song.

In celebration of the 20th anniversary of Linkin Park's sophomore album Meteora, LPLive members Dylan Yadav and Anthony Staten guested on The Nu-Metal Agenda podcast to discuss the album and its legacy. The podcast is hosted by Holiday Kirk, self-proclaimed CEO of nu-metal and admin of the popular numetal_moment Twitter account. Listen on: Apple | Spotify An extra discussion on the Jay-Z collaboration Collision Course can be found in the Nu-Metal Agenda Patreon. Listen to a preview here.

Now that we know the origins of many of those samples and we have a list of samples present in each demo, I was thinking we could check their dates to figure out an approximate date for the demos. Here's the list I made:

Wow! I swear I went through their entire discography (great band by the way) and didn't hear this before. Great catch. From The Perfect Drug Versions. Never considered that Mike could be using remixes of those songs.

LPCatalog shared the Rough Cut DVD which had unfinished versions of those episodes. Scenes ordered differently, different editing, scenes not present in the final versions, etc. Linkin Park uploaded 2 different versions to their YouTube channel: The videos with 480p resolution are still unfinished versions, but different from the Rough Cut DVD. You'll noticed a lot of them have Figure.09 as the opening song, while the final versions used Qwerty. They all have title screens, which is something used for internal control, not for publicly release. They left Chester's butt uncensored (it's censored in the final version), there's the scene of them singing Baby Got Back (also present in the Rough Cut DVD) which was removed from the final version, you'll also notice there's a black screen in one episode with "Insert From The Inside Sequence" written on it that lasts a few seconds (obviously the scene hadn't been added yet at that point in the edition process). The latest uploads, the ones in 360p resolution and pretty compressed / pixelated, are the original extended versions that were sold on iTunes in 2007. They are the final versions of the episodes. Se we now have 3 different versions of those LPTV episodes. The unfinished version still being in their channel is most likely a mistake because YouTube allows Linkin Park to replace videos and keep the same links and view count. They didn't have to upload the finished versions under new links.

I just went through the main post and noticed a few things about Minutes To Midnight: Road To Revolution is listed as the officially released CD / audio-only version. They removed Wake 2.0, Somewhere I Belong, Papercut and Points Of Authority from the release. On the DVD, they added Somewhere I Belong, Papercut and Points Of Authority as bonus tracks that are unblocked after you finish watching the show, but Wake 2.0 remains unreleased in any form. The best thing to do would be to restore the full show with the missing songs and in its original order just like they did with Live In Texas for the 20th anniversary of Meteora. Would certainly justify having this show there. Not Alone is listed as a Minutes To Midnight b-side, but in 2010 the band actually scrapped all the previously recorded vocals and wrote entirely new lyrics for the song for inclusion in the Download To Donate For Haiti album. It should be listed as an A Thousand Suns b-side. Across The Line is listed as "Across The Road" in the b-sides list as somebody else mentioned. Pretend To Be is listed as "Pretended To Be". Another correction on Pretend To Be: the version we have was actually done in 2008. The band worked on the song that year. So the "2008" date is not a mistake. We Made It had two versions recorded: a dirty and a clean version. Each with different lyrics. The version used in the music video and the single is the clean version. The dirty version is harder to come by because it isn't available in digital platforms and was only used in the US promo CD / vinyl. By the way, I guess you can add We Made It to the music videos list. =========================================================== Things I noticed in the A Thousand Suns list: The b-sides list is missing Issho Ni from the Download To Donate: Tsunami Relief album. New Divide (Live In Madrid) is listed twice. By the way, all "Live In Madrid" (Puerta De Alcalá EP) tracks were released as well in the A Thousand Suns+ DVD in 2011. The DVD had the entire show in both audio and video format with the exception of Wisdom, Justice And Love which was removed for copyright reasons. Maybe they could work something out with the Martin Luther King Jr. family to release this song. You listed New Divide as a bonus track for the album in several stores, but the bonus track on those places was actually the NoBraiN remix of The Catalyst. The studio version of New Divide was never a bonus track on the album, but a live version (taken from The Catalyst single) was used as a bonus track for the Japanese edition of the album. On the LPU list, you included a demo version of Blackout, but no demo of Blackout was ever released to the LPU. What is "Empty Spaces/When They Come For Me"? =========================================================== On The Hunting Party: You listed "The Hunting Party DVD" and "The Hunting Party: Live From Mexico". They are the same thing. There was only 1 bonus DVD for the album. I think the LPU tracks from 2015 should be listed under One More Light.

Known working titles: - Coffee (Keys To The Kingdom) - True Chainz (All For Nothing) - Blinky (Guilty All The Same) - Warrior (War) - Artillery (Wastelands) - Thanksgiving (Until It's Gone) - Plato (Mark The Graves) - Drawbar (Final Masquerade) - Odyssey (A Line In The Sand) Known unreleased titles: - Apes - Control - Lifejacket / Spotify - The Glistening LPU Tracks: - Can't Hurt Me Possibly worked during The Hunting Party sessions: - White Noise (Mall soundtrack) - Horizons (Darker Than Blood) [Started in 2013 with Victorious (A Light That Never Comes)] I actually have Blackbirds with the "Non-Album Track" thing since 2010. I've never had an iTunes account though.

It has now become common practice for bands to release all the singles before the album and release b-sides afterwards to keep the listeners interest. Most of the time it's alternative versions of songs from the album, but sometimes bands release songs that didn't make the album as well. For instance, Papa Roach recently released re-recordings of two singles from their latest album featuring additional vocals by Hollywood Undead and Beartooth. As an example of the latter, AFI released Caught as a digital single after the release of their latest album Bodies. Another common practice nowadays is to release deluxe editions of the albums only a year after the initial album release (while back in the day both standard and deluxe editions came out on the same day) and those deluxe editions usually include the songs that didn't make the standard edition of the album and might include the previously mentioned alternative versions of songs as well. An example is Skillet who just released the deluxe edition of their 2022 album Dominion. All those extra tracks can be considered b-sides. Right, they surely had some songs that were pretty far in the process, but didn't make the record or were left unfinished. I'll Be Gone, Castle Of Glass, Lies Greed Misery, Powerless and The Last Line (actually started for Minutes To Midnight) were all leftovers from A Thousand Suns. However, I don't think any of the songs that made the album are there just because they had to rush to meet a deadline. When it comes to A Thousand Suns, we have to keep in mind that it was a concept album, so anything the band thought that wouldn't fit the concept was left out.

Sure. That would be interesting. They could include demos of The Last Line and Not Alone on Minutes To Midnight too. I would be interested in hearing what they sounded like in 2007. On A Thousand Suns they could release the original long demo of Powerless and a demo of Castle Of Glass. http://web.archive.org/web/20110320013455/http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/a-thousand-suns-deluxe-version/id389739922 A-Side and B-Side originated when singles were released in vinyl format. The A-Side (Side 1) of a single had the title song which was meant for radio airplay and the B-Side (Side 2) of the disc would have an extra song not deemed as important as the A-Side and not intended for airplay. There were also cases of double singles on which both sides were considered A-Sides, meaning both songs were intended for airplay. The only Linkin Park example I can think of is Pts.Of.Athrty / H! Vltg3. After the creation of CDs, the term B-Side started being used for any track in a single that's not the title track. In the One Step Closer single for instance, we have One Step Closer as the A-Side and My December and High Voltage as B-Sides. The "B-Side Rarities" disc on the 20th anniversary edition of Hybrid Theory consists of B-Sides from the singles of One Step Closer, Crawling, In The End, Papercut and Pts.Of.Athrty. In the current digital era, a B-Side is basically any song that wasn't released in the standard edition of an album (songs a band didn't consider important enough to be in the main album). Very often, B-Sides from the singles were also used as bonus tracks for studio albums (not as common now that singles became mainly 1-song digital releases). Back in the day it was common practice for labels to release albums at different dates in different countries with different tracklists (nowadays this still happens in Japan). Sometimes there were editions exclusive to certain stores as well (still happens in the US). The bonus tracks from all those different editions were usually the B-Sides from the singles, but they could also be tracks from compilations, soundtracks, songs previously released somewhere else or sometimes previously unreleased tracks (more common now with the deluxe editions of albums being released a full year after the standard edition). They might be cover songs, live songs, remixes or a song that didn't make any album. Since there were so many different editions of albums being released in different places, sometimes bands reused those B-Sides for multiple albums because a certain track hadn't been released in a certain place before. Linkin Park did this with the live version of One Step Closer (B-Side from the Faint single), releasing it as a bonus track for both Reanimation and Meteora. On A Thousand Suns we had the B-Side of The Catalyst single as a bonus track for Japan, the NoBraiN remix of The Catalyst (winner of the remix contest) as a bonus track for HMV and Blackbirds (from the 8-bit Rebellion! soundtrack) as a bonus track for iTunes. Because they're bonus tracks for A Thousand Suns and never officially associated with any other album, they're technically A Thousand Suns b-sides.

The reason it was released on A Thousand Suns is irrelevant. The fact remains that it was a bonus track for A Thousand Suns. "Use of this language has largely declined in the 21st century as the music industry has transitioned away from analog recordings towards digital formats without physical sides, such as CDs, downloads and streaming. Nevertheless, some artists and labels continue to employ the terms A-side and B-side metaphorically to describe the type of content a particular release features, with B-side sometimes representing a 'bonus' track or other material." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-side_and_B-side This MTV article used to have a video of Mike Shinoda talking about Blackbirds. Sadly it's not available anymore, but we have a transcription on Linkinpedia: "When you finish the game, you get access to 'Blackbirds' which is a brand new Linkin Park song that we basically finished specifically to this game. So it's exclusive to the game. It's not gonna be on an album, it's not gonna be on anything else." It was even listed as "Blackbirds (Non-Album Track From The 8-Bit Rebellion! App)" on the initial iTunes version of A Thousand Suns. Not "Minutes To Midnight B-Side" or "Minutes To Midnight Demo". On the upcoming Meteora 20th anniversary release we have two live tracks recorded in 2002 which is technically the Hybrid Theory era, but they are being released with Meteora because they were b-sides to the Somewhere I Belong single, a Meteora song, from 2003.

If it was released as a bonus track on A Thousand Suns, it's a b-side from A Thousand Suns. Many bands reuse old songs, that's nothing new. Slipknot just released a song they wrote during The Gray Chapter era, Flyleaf's 3rd album New Horizons had a song called Broken Wings that dates back to one of their first demos that they recorded under another band name, She Loves Me Not by Papa Roach was written for Infest and released as a single from lovehatetragedy (Walking Through Barbed Wire from this album was another song they left out of Infest), AFI released songs from the Sing The Sorrow and Decemberunderground sessions as bonus tracks for Crash Love, Sheer Heart Attack by Queen was written for the 1974 album with the same name but only released in their 1977 album News Of The World, and there are many more examples. Those songs are always associated with the year / album cycle they were actually released. Why should it be different for Linkin Park?

This was Mike's theory and it has been debunked for some time now. What Are You Worth was burned to a CD and sent to the label in 2016 when they recorded it. The other song they did with Brian Howes (Ricochet) wasn't in the CD, so it never leaked. Someone (from the label, I assume) sold the CD with What Are You Worth online as well as multiple Linkin Park multitracks and instrumentals and the unreleased remix of Blackout by RAC. All those things surfaced at the same time, so it makes sense that it was all leaked by the same person.

Blackbirds was released in 2010 and was a bonus track for A Thousand Suns. On the 20th anniversary of Minutes To Midnight, I would like to see them finally fix Shadow Of The Day with the version originally released in 2007. I don't understand why they felt the need to re-record the guitar (playing the wrong notes!) for the 15th anniversary edition when they have the Minutes To Midnight DVD with the entire album in Hi-Res 48kHz/24-bit quality. Would be cool if they could include the other versions we have of Shadow Of The Day, No Roads Left and Across The Line in the b-sides disc though. Particularly the version of Across The Line with the extended intro from the LPU 9 European promo CD. The track is very low on the CD, so having an upgrade of that would be really good (just like we got an upgrade of She Couldn't on HT20).

Pretty sure they had no intention of promoting M20 in 2017.

Out Of Ashes: 01. Fire 02. Crawl Back In 03. Too Late 04. Inside Of Me 05. Let Down 06. Give Me Your Name 07. My Suffering 08. Condemned 09. Into You 10. End Of The World 11. Walking In Circles 12. In The Darkness 13. Morning After (Bonus Track) Released B-Sides: - Crawl Back In (Live In Stuttgart 2009) [Crawl Back In single] - My Suffering (Live In Stuttgart 2009) [Crawl Back In single] - Let Down (Radio Edit) [Let Down radio single] - Fire (Live In Hamburg 2009) [Let Down single] - Let Down (Live In Hamburg 2009) [Let Down single] - Crawl Back In (Live In Gräfenhainichen 2009) [iTunes pre-order bonus track and Sonisphere EP bonus track, mislabeled as "Live At Sonisphere 2009"] - Morning After (Julien-K Remix) [Underworld: Evolution soundtrack] - My Suffering (iPunk Remix) [Free download] - Let Down (Acoustic Live In Las Vegas 2009) [Let Down (Live) digital single] - Morning After (Acoustic Live In Las Vegas 2009) [LPU download] - Let Down (Live At KROQ Almost Acoustic Christmas 2009) [KROQ 2009 benefit album] - I'll Try Not To Destroy You (Acoustic Live In Scottsdale 2011) [Time Capsule - A Future Retrospective] - Palm Springs Reset (Acoustic Live In Scottsdale 2011) [Time Capsule - A Future Retrospective] - Let Down (Acoustic Live In Scottsdale 2011) - Lincoln Car Ad Demo (Instrumental) - Split Personality (Instrumental Demo) - Morning After (Meat Beat Manifesto Remix) "Chester Bennington Demos" CD: 01. Walking In Circles (Demo) 02. Fadeaway (Into You Demo) 03. Fire (Demo) 04. Morning After (Demo) 05. My Suffering (Demo) 06. Let Down (Demo) 07. Twenty Eyes (Misfits Cover) 08. Give Me Your Name (Demo) 09. Morning After Remix (From Underworld: Evolution) Known unreleased titles: - Hard Life - Introutro - Instrumental - Wall Of Sound - Evil Twin Known shows with proshot videos: 2005.09.10 Nashville, TN, CMT Studios, ReAct Now: Music & Relief (1 song performance) 2009.08.01 Knebworth, ENG, Knebworth Park, Sonisphere UK (Crawl Back In aired on TV) 2009.08.22 Pomona, CA, Fairplex, Epicenter '09 (bad quality webcast) 2009.10.07 Hamburg, HH, Grünspan, Delta Radio Secret Show (My Suffering posted online) 2009.10.10 Gelsenkirchen, NW, Veltins Arena, Stock Car Crash Challenge (1 song performance) 2009.10.13 New York City, NY, Ed Sullivan Theatre, Late Show with David Letterman (1 song performance) 2009.10.21 Los Angeles, CA, Jimmy Kimmel Live Outdoor Stage, Jimmy Kimmel Live (Crawl Back In and half of Let Down aired on TV) 2009.10.23 Columbia, MD, Merriweather Post Pavilion, mtvU Ulalume (Crawl Back In and Let Down posted online) 2009.11.21 Paris, FR, Grand Palais, Quiksilver Tony Hawk Show (live footage was interrupted by interviews) 2009.12.12 Universal City, CA, Gibson Amphitheatre, KROQ Almost Acoustic X-Mas (bad quality webcast) 2010.01.28 Tokyo, JP, Shibuya-Ax (aired on TV, but no recording ever surfaced) Known shows with soundboard audio: 2009.07.04 Las Vegas, NV, Steve Wyrick Theater (Let Down and Morning After released) 2009.10.09 London, ENG, BBC Maida Vale Studios (Studio MV4), BBC Radio 1 Performance (broadcasted by BBC) 2011.11.12 Scottsdale, AZ, Montelucia Resort & Spa, 'Stars of the Season' Gala (3 songs released) Personally, I'd love for them to release a "Live & Acoustic" audio disc with both the Las Vegas and Scottsdale shows in full, including the Linkin Park and Julien-K songs as well. Those extra songs, added to the fact that it was the band's final live show, made the Scottsdale performance so special. For a live DVD, I'd be happy with anything they release since the videos we have are in pretty bad quality. However, I do think the Nashville 2005 video deserves a special place in a 20th anniversary edition of the album because that performance was basically the birth of the band. Obviously the Julien-K guys need to be involved in a Dead By Sunrise release. They have so much cool material in their archives that they can't do anything with because they don't own the rights. It would be a shame if all that went to waste.

CD: 01. Dirt Off Your Shoulder/Lying From You 02. Big Pimpin'/Papercut 03. Jigga What/Faint 04. Numb/Encore 05. Izzo/In The End 06. Points Of Authority/99 Problems/One Step Closer 07. Dirt Off Your Shoulder/Lying From You (Mike Shinoda's Proof of Concept) 08. Numb/Encore (Mike Shinoda's Proof of Concept) 09. Numb/Encore/Yesterday (Mike Shinoda's Proof of Concept) 10. 99 Steps Klosr (Remixed by AL-B) DVD: - Making of Collision Course (the documentary from the original DVD) - The Roxy Theatre 2004: 01. Don't Stay 02. Somewhere I Belong 03. Step Up/Nobody's Listening/It's Goin' Down 04. Breaking The Habit 05. From The Inside 06. Dirt Off Your Shoulder/Lying From You 07. Big Pimpin'/Papercut 08. Jigga What/Faint 09. Numb/Encore 10. Izzo/In The End 11. Points Of Authority/99 Problems/One Step Closer - Anaheim 2005 (Music For Relief: Rebuilding South Asia): 01. Don't Stay 02. Somewhere I Belong 03. Runaway 04. Frgt/10 05. Breaking The Habit 06. Crawling 07. Dirt Off Your Shoulder/Lying From You 08. Big Pimpin'/Papercut 09. Jigga What/Faint 10. Numb/Encore 11. Izzo/In The End 12. Points Of Authority/99 Problems/One Step Closer - 48th Grammy Awards Show 2006: 01. Numb/Encore/Yesterday Mike once said that after he got a call from Jay-Z about doing Collision Course, he put together mash-ups of Dirt Off Your Shoulder/Lying From You and Numb/Encore to show him his idea of what they would sound like. He did the same thing for the Grammy performance with Paul McCartney. Would be interesting to hear his original mash-ups. The entire idea for the project was inspired by the success of AL-B's "99 Steps Klosr" mash-up and we know Warner pressed internal CDs with the track. Not sure if they acquired the rights, but it could be a cool addition to this collection. The full Live 8 show was broadcasted on TV and there are numerous recordings out there. I think there's no need for another one. The Music For Relief show was pretty unique for having the only ever performance of Frgt/10. We've seen proshot clips of the show, one of which was posted in the band's official website, and fans have been asking for years to see the full thing. An anniversary celebration of Collision Course would be the perfect moment to release it.

Full Roxy show. I would be interested in hearing the Numb/Encore/Yesterday mash-up he played for Jay-Z and Paul McCartney when he proposed the Grammy 2006 performance.

Both tracks ("Resolution" and "Lost 2002 Mix") were registered under different codes and titles. Wouldn't make sense. We didn't get Part Of Me demo on HT20. Unless you're talking about Chair from LPU, but unlike Lost, that wasn't exclusive to the anniversary release. Not saying no band would ever do that. Julien-K included both unreleased tracks and demos of those tracks in their Time Capsule release. The difference with Meteora20 is that we already have the full tracklist and no song is listed as "(Lost Demo)".

Resolution is a track in the Lost Demos disc. The title is seen in the Meteora song board.

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