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Crow is delicious, kiddo. Keep waiting for your second FM album. Maybe if you wish hard enough upon a star it'll fall out of the sky and knock you out. Way to bring back the Dave v. Chester bullshit, btw, guys. Nice one there.

I'm not particularly surprised that there are holdovers from ATS. This album cycle is a lot faster and the time they took to make the album was half as long, so I'd imagine demos they liked but weren't able to use would be revisited more in this case.

man, where'd you get that quote of me? ;D But in all seriousness, I think you're right about the unification. Living Things should be able to please the old-school crowd looking for at least some sort of return to the HT/Meteora style, while still retaining the increased sophistication in the music found in MTM/ATS for the fans that prefer them. Or all of us will hate it. Whichever.

Shit, if there was a like feature for posts on LPL...

Except that Living Things is way more personal than MTM and ATS were (moreso ATS), and from what we've heard about the album it'd be more in line with HT and Meteora, though it's by no means a continuation of those two, either. My thinking is that it starts another "reinvention" of sorts for the band, but this time the reinvention comes from combining the previous two eras into one.

I don't think we should be comparing two completely different vocalists, really. Sure, Dave's voice is pretty rough and limited, but he can sing decently most of the time. They're from two completely different bands. Not to mention that Dave is definitely the better all-around musician.

I remember someone else mentioning this a few weeks back. This album's going to be pretty awesome, it seems.

It'd be a shame if this topic devolved into Dave Grohl bashing when the man is a legitimately fantastic musician. Have you listened to 90s Foo Fighters? Works of art. Sure he runs his mouth occasionally when a band doesn't do straight up alternative rock, but that's how the guy is, and it's not like he's a hypocrite, either. That video of Rope is an out of context example. In any case, I am really looking forward to this album. Rap all over the place? LP goes country? This I have to hear.

"When will we get to hear Pictureboard?" Guarantee some asshole is going to try to push that through.

I scoured the entire internet for months trying to find this and I only found a live version on Youtube. The source is from a dead fansite and that's not really very credible, is it?

I think Megatron was the name of the seed that ended up becoming New Divide, yeah.

I want him to do at least one solo track with singing and rapping.

The answer to that is probably "never" unless we miraculously find another demo CD like the one that had She Couldn't on it, which couldn't be released (or even discussed) for the same reasons.

Mike's interview indicated that this album would be a lot more rap-heavy, so I'm going to say 6 to 7. And damn I hope I'm right.

If you read the demo lyrics, BID sounds way more personal in them. I tend to be the sort of fan that would want more high-concept lyrics like the ones in ATS, but I can roll with more personal themes as long as they're not backpedaling into the whiny bullshit of HT and Meteora. In any case, BID can easily be interpreted as a song about betrayal, a theme that usually isn't political at all. Going with what Chester said about having more personal themes about relationships, BID fits pretty well.

Warner probably loosened their grip because LP's in the studio so soon after their last album, and because they're returning to a more familiar style, as opposed to ATS which came out over three years after Minutes to Midnight and was extremely radio-unfriendly. The label wants to make money, after all, and LP was one of their huge moneymakers in the 2000s.

Aren't you the clever one

Rough draft transcript from what I can see (my notes except for the triangle mention are in parentheses): (Title) BURIED AT SEA 1. abuse cycle (triangle), break up to make up 2. we love to build things up and knock them down [i burn/build(?dunno) some thing] V1. I carried your banner / I carried the answer / PC. (pre-chorus) And it was there in the grey there in the space below [there in the space below / there in the space below] (might be double-tracked vocals under the previous line or echoing the previous one) it was there in grey There that we came to know CH. we build ourselves up to watch it cave in we build ourselves up but through it all we can't wait to burn it down again V2. (appears to be notes only) [fuck, I always do that] [but I'm going to get it right] (PC again)

Did we ever get the missing track from Mike's VMAs score? I remember that someone brought it to his attention that track 3 was missing, but I don't remember it ever being resolved.

Looks like Joe is directing. Just confirmation.

How about an EP of live collaborations? ;D

It makes sense that he'd be trying to emulate Mark's voice initially. It's a shitty thing to do to join a band as the new lead vocalist and then do something completely different from the previous vocalist (this is why I don't like Steve Perry). Like, unless the band as a whole is making a conscious decision to change their sound, you should stick with what they sounded like before if that's what they want. Chester's vocals are definitely different in Grey Daze, but that band had a different style altogether, so it makes sense that he'd change his own style to match what Linkin Park was doing at the time.

This is a fascinating perspective that I don't think I've seen very often, if at all. And I certainly understand where you're coming from - the pre-2000 body of work is a quite different beast from the 2000-2007 work that it's often grouped into. The music has a much more raw feel to it, probably because of the tiny budget the band had to work with due to not being on a major label. There's also a...quality to Mike's rapping that's different, as well. I've talked before about how Mike's rapping on Hybrid Theory through Collision Course has this robotic, emotionless feel to it, like he's just reciting the words from a piece of paper taped up in front of his face. However, on the demo tape, the HTEP, the post-EP demos even, it's different. There's more energy there, the vocals have a more "live" feel, almost. The subject matter tended to be different for Mike as well, particularly on the demo tape, with more references to the hip-hop scene and rapping in general, as opposed to the more universal topics in most LP songs. And the "anger"...oh, your point is so very valid here. Hybrid Theory and Meteora were extremely whiny at times, whereas Xero and the EP were more "Fuck you and fuck everything about you" that reminded me of metal quite a bit more than the later material. Overall, your interest is pretty understandable, and it's an interest I share, to an extent.

And on top of that, no mixer in the goddamn world can make a Linkin Park song sound like a Bieber song, because that's just not the job of a mixer at all. If you're going to worry about anyone on the production team, worry about the producer.

Man, they're just taking hit after hit in JK, aren't they? First Brandon and now Elias. Of course Brian Welch is the one to get Elias to tell everyone, considering he did literally the same thing in 2005 with KoRn.