LPAAltwireDerek

Weird and unexpected for these songs to premiere so early, but I'll take it.

Sorry but you have a really bad habit of trying to rewrite history in regards to why you were banned or claiming LPA bans for frivolous reasons. This isn't the first time you claimed this, and like I said before, you're absolutely incorrect. You were banned for the same exact reasons that you'll likely be banned from LPL soon too (if you're not already) which is usage of homophobic slurs, and being an all around confrontational and non-contributing person to our community. Given that you've exhibited the same behaviors here on LPL, it's honestly confusing and outright indefensible that you are still here. I'm flattered you think highly of me, but I cannot unfortunately say the feeling is mutual. Not based off of how you've carried yourself in the LP community. Like the person in your avatar, you have a bad habit of not thinking before you speak, saying comments that land you in hot water, and then turning around and acting like everyone is simply out to get you or that you're not in the wrong. Drop the victim act man. If you knew how to ACT people wouldn't have issues with you. Period.

Geki, you have to be the biggest tool in the world. I honestly cant understand why you still have posting privileges on here because you really are a piece of work. And no I dont mean that in a good way.

The only reason I said 'should be' is cause I couldn't hear the tracks at work. But judging by my staff at LPA saying it sounds just like Mike, and given that he went by Kenji, and is listed in the booklet? Yep these are the real deal...unless Mike somehow says otherwise. Fantastic find my good man!

Good news: These are likely legitimate. Mike went by Kenji back in the day when he rapped with the Styles of Beyond crew, and they actually used to go by Junkyard Scientific (hence the Stick N' Move lyric). This was information Mike gave me back when he gave the xero lyrics to LPA, so the odds of this being legit...considering it says 'Kenji' are pretty decent. Good find man. Great job.

Haha it pretty much was "here you go" with an attachment. The attachment was an RTF file with the 'updated' lines underlined. Aside from that, pretty boring. I wish it was more exciting, sorry if I disappointed you haha . No special info, nothing. Just 'here ya go'.

I can't as there are some email addresses in there that are private, and not intended for the public. If the emails are needed to be seen for proof sake, Mark can give you all the verification you need that I'm not toying with anyone in this thread. I wouldn't mess with you guys like that. I legit only do these things (the lyrics, podcasts, interviews etc) to help the fans out. I merely do it out of loyalty to the fans since they're a big part of the reason LPA is still around after 15 years.

The liner lyrics are incorrect in at least two spots. For example, mike doesn't say "my rhyme top it" like the liner notes suggest. He says "my hand". There's also 'you cant hack it though' instead of 'and cant hack it though' like the notes suggest. Read the lyrics that were sent to me while listening to the track, they're definitely more accurate than what was printed on the tape. The liner notes made at least 2-3 mistakes. Although that was definitely a boo-boo the band made on Fuse's chorus. Epic lulz.

The band were working off an existing transcription and submitting 'corrections' so I believe it might've been a harmless mistake on the band's part to not notice that. As later demos do indeed have 'pain' if I recall. Either way, corrected it. Good catch .

Reached out to the band. These are the straight from the source lyrics for the Xero Demo Tape. Just got them this morning. Enjoy: http://www.lpassociation.com/music/xero/

I thank you for this, but I think it was just a case of management/publicity evolving their stance over the years. It took a long time to have management look at fan sites as 'press' and I honestly think AltWire is more to thank for that than most people think. After the '6 song preview' on AltWire went over so well with the fanbase during THP's release cycle, it seemed to completely change the way LPA was looked at (because the same guy -me- runs both sites), and in turn it probably improved how other fansites were looked at as well. Our websites were no longer just some 'fanzines', we were legitimately looked at as a good promotional tool for albums...as we should be. I really hope that come next year LPLive finally gets it's well deserved and well earned interview. You guys have been going on a decade. It's only right you get your shot .

Honestly, all we do to get these things is coordinate with the publicity teams for the band. We don't have any special treatment, nor do we exploit any kind of special treatment or anything. So LPL and likely any fansite could get these things probably to be honest. Not putting down my own site or anything, just saying the truth.

I think it's a decent song, but I can see what Mike means about the melodramaticness. Honestly, I think that's my biggest gripe with Meteora as a whole. Instrumentally it's a solid record, but songwriting wise, the lyrics wander far too much into melodramatic territory time and time again. Whereas Hybrid Theory seemed to try to use a lot of metaphors to describe betrayal/anger (the metaphors in APFMH being a huge example), Meteora was at times far too blunt and woe is me. And of course, when you're Mike's age (38) and that album was written when you were basically 25-26...it's really difficult to bring yourself into that same state of mind. I know the things I was worried about 12 years ago, are completely insignificant to me now.

....damn. Knew we forgot something

Thank you massively for your support guys. We look forward to what Mike has planned for the fansites. Especially if it means us working together. 2016 should be a big year for the fansites, or in other words: "DIS GUN BE GOOD".\ Although, I'd recommend listening to the podcast and not reading the summary first because it spoils a lot of the surprises haha.

To be fair though, neither LPA nor LPLive can really be faulted for being popular or getting activity above the official websites/fan club. LPLive in particular has been around for nearly 10 years, and my website LPA has been around since late 2001. We're going on almost 15 years as a website. When you have two sites open for a decade (or in my case, 5 years away from being TWO decades) and have periodically over that time period been mentioned by the band as a trusted LP news source (both sites), you're going to gather a following and a reputation and get known within the fanbase. The unfortunate thing with the LPU is that as fantastic of a deal as it is at times, as Mark so aptly put it: you can't force people to pay for the fanclub. It is ultimately blocked by a pay wall, which means that no matter how hard they try to make it as awesome as possible...it's never going to be available to everyone because not everyone can afford it. However; everyone can afford to go to a fansite because access is free and they don't have to do anything special to be a part of it, they just have to create a username and post without ever having to spend a dime. It's human nature to gravitate towards something free. I don't feel it's right to blame LPA/LPL for the decline of the fan clubs/official site, when we've both worked hard to get to the point we're at. If anything, blame the LPU for their ill-advised partnerships with companies like Ning, and for removing the original LPUMB, which was a huge blow to the fan club when that happened. The LPU is a fantastic fan club now, but there were a few missteps along the way to get there. That can hardly be blamed on either fansite. We've just done 'us' for all these years, and people chose to follow our sites because of it.

Thank you. I just feel it's important for people to know that we do read everything that's said about LPA (both good or bad) and we listen to everything. We take every suggestion to heart and evaluate every concern individually out of respect for those who call LPA their full or part time home. We care what people think, and we value honest and constructive critique.

Hi guys, Derek from LPAssociation here. As the founder of LPA back in 2001, and one of only a select few that has been on the site since it's very first day, I thought I'd take a moment to say hello and address some of the things that I've read in here (both the negative and positive). First things first, for those of you who frequent both the LPA and the LPL who have said some positive things about our site, I thank you. It is certainly good to hear that you appreciate our album release coverage, and we certainly do whatever we can to live up to your expectations when those special moments come around every two years. It's no secret that we've been around for close to 15 years, and it goes without saying that we wouldn't have lasted nearly that long if it wasn't for the support of fans like yourself. We value everyone who takes a moment out of their day to visit our corner of the internet, and we appreciate any opportunity to receive your input, even if it's in the form of criticism over certain aspects of our community. For those who had their gripes and issues with the LPA and have chosen to voice your concerns in this thread, let me be the first to tell you that we've heard you loud and clear. I won't begin to claim that we have been perfect as a website over the last decade, and there's been a few moments where I feel we could've handled things differently or refrained from doing things entirely. There's a wise old saying by Alexander Pope where he once said "to err is human", and I feel that is certainly applicable here. To try and pretend we haven't made our share of mistakes would be foolhardy, and I certainly will be the first to admit that we have areas in need of improvement. A few of you certainly pointed out areas where we aren't our best, and for that I thank you. There's no way to know what we're missing or what people feel we need to change if we don't hear from the people who have visited us, so your input is appreciated. Whether you view us daily, or viewed us once and were so dissatisfied with the experience that you never came back, your opinion matters to us. Already we are discussing as a staff some of the concerns raised in this thread to see if we can fix some problem areas and make the experience more enjoyable for everyone overall. For those who haven't visited us in a while, please take this as my invitation to come on by and give us another try. We'd love to have you!

I would never be one to promote the band going back to an older sound, or going down a road they've done before (infact I usually make fun of the NU METAL PLZ OMG people that come up every album), but there's something to be said about how well Hybrid Theory's whole sound just "worked". I was listening to the album just the other day, and what I find really crazy about that record is that despite the band writing some ridiculously catchy music in the last 15 years, no album they've done has mixed pop and hard rock as well as that album managed to since. There's just something so special about how each song on that album felt like it could be a single, and how the album was so masterfully crafted that it appealed to a mass audience (metalheads and TRL fans alike) but never felt like it was actually a "pop" record or written to be mainstream. It was able to be played on both rock and pop stations, and yet it was so different than other music at the time that some critics didn't know how to categorize it. The term 'nu-metal' applied only loosely, and the fact that so many of the current "new" rock acts out there sound like Linkin Park, is a testament to how influential that album was. Perhaps the fact that some of those songs were rewritten over the course of 3-4 years could be to thank for that, but my point is...I'd love to see Linkin Park deliver an album that really strives for those ethos. I don't want it to sound like Hybrid Theory, or hold any resemblance to old songs, but I want an album where every song is so well written that each song can be a single. Where every song sticks in your head from start to finish, and you don't feel a desire to skip any of the tracks. The Hunting Party got close to that, and A Thousand Suns is a modern masterpiece, but there have been quite a few 'filler' feeling songs on the last few albums (imo) and I feel that's due to how quickly these albums are being punched out. Even if it takes longer to write, if the band could deliver an album as strongly written as Hybrid Theory, I think it would be explosive. I'm not even talking lyrically or sound wise here. Just quality.

While some may find Mike's mention of a venture capitalist fund to be 'boring', I actually thought it was one of the more interesting parts of the interview. Investing in technology companies could mean anything. It could be brand new software like Stagelight, developing new midi controllers for music DAWs, speakers like Infinity One, or even technology to help feed/provide water for 3rd world countries. So many possibilities.

Thanks for posting this guys! Glad you liked it . Btw, I've secretely relaunched the AW forums today (shh). We couldn't migrate over any posts (without making it look really ugly), but go ahead and register and post around . And of course let me know if anything should change: http://www.altwire.net/community/

To be fair, I wouldn't take that as a sign that the new album will be out any sooner than usual. The band is pretty much always writing, and always working so the statement that they'll begin work on LP7 soon shouldn't be taken too seriously. They'll probably begin demos later this year, but I wouldn't expect anything till mid 2016 at the earliest if I were you. Chester's going to be working on new STP music, and I'm sure a new STP tour/EP will likely happen before LP7.

Holy crap, you just made me realize I had a huge mistake. The line is "murder with no killin". I will fix that now! Thank you! And no, Daron doesn't sing on the track. Unfortunately. Still a great track though!

Even though management has already been alerted, I have posted this on LPA as well. Good luck Kyle. You're an inspiration!

Unbelievably excited. Can't wait to hear WTCFM live in person.