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The "OUTSTEP" sample comes from the DJ Babu song "Step Up Break", which, in turn, samples Gang Starr's song "Step in the Arena".
"Step Up Break" plays at 5:36 in this video.
The sample plays at 0:12.
Also, the 1997 Xero demo version of "Stick N Move" samples "Change The Beat (Female Version)" by Beside.
The sample plays at 0:42 in the video.
The sample plays at 3:37 in the video.
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1 hour ago, JZ-GreyDazePatheticWorship said:
Note from Rob
This is my new drumstick, it's so cool and beautiful.
Lol 🤣
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Has someone tried using Photoshop or something similar for the Relative Degree logo shown on the flyer that was shown in the MTV's The Ride Linkin Park documentary?
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They could've replaced the last 4 tracks on the Forgotten Demos disc with "Ashes", "Turn To Grey", "Dreamer", and "Weight", or possibly something else as well.
Another thing that the boxset didn't have that was definitively missing (that someone on here has mentioned before) was a re-issue of the CD version the Hybrid Theory EP. I mean, since it was reissued on vinyl in the boxset, why not also reissue it in CD form as well.
They could've replaced RAR 2001 with another show, such as Docklands 2001 or another one of their shows from around that time.
On 10/15/2020 at 11:45 PM, JZ-GreyDazePatheticWorship said:I still can't believe that we got like 7 versions of POA, wow. Very unnecessary.
On 10/16/2020 at 12:20 AM, Justin said:We definitely didn't need as many versions of POA as we got.
We got 8 versions of POA as a part of the boxset.
1. Final version
2. 'Reanimation' remix version
3. BBC 2001 live version
4. Docklands 2001 live version
5. "Oh No" instrumental demo
6. LPU 12 demo version (different from "Points And/& Authority" from 9/8/7-track demos)
7. Crystal Method remix 'Reanimation' outtake
8. 6-track demo ("Stop the talk show" alternate rap)
We got the final version, 2 remix versions, 3 demos, and 2 live versions.
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I'll take a listen to it to see what Mike is saying.
Edit: It’s definitely “A small product of the broken charade.”
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On 10/14/2022 at 5:55 PM, JZ-GreyDazePatheticWorship said:
Man thanks for digging LP related news
You are doing a great job and I really appreciate what you are doing
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On 10/15/2022 at 9:55 PM, Justin said:I second this. I found this interesting. Thanks for keeping some news going, especially in this period of unprecedented silence from the LP team.
Thanks, I've actually been trying to contact multiple LP collaboration collaborators/former band members/executives/other band members (who knew the band members early in their careers)/others that had to do with LP (mainly through Instagram) about the collaborations, along with their demos and live show information, but I still haven't gotten replies back from most of them.
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Just wondering, but would it be a good idea to message Samantha about this performance, such as ask her about if she remembers the songs that were performed, the name of Chester's audition song, such stuff like that?
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On 7/3/2020 at 10:44 AM, Zoom said:
Kyle said in an interview with Linkin Park Argentina that he played in performances at Los Angeles and Arizona.
https://www.taringa.net/+linkinparktaringa/entrevista-a-kyle-christner-ex-ht-1999_pnnnl
According to him, it can be assumed that he definitely played in these performances:
1999.08.27 Tempe, AZ
1999.08.28 Tempe, AZ
1999.09.02 Los Angeles, CA
Accordingly, in Fullerton, 7 days before the performance in Tempe (1999.08.27), in theory he also played.
The question remains, did Kyle play at 12 november 1999 in Fullerton, or was Ian Hornbeck already participating there (and did he perform with them at all)?
In general, it would be great if Kyle looking at the photos confirmed whether he played there. The person who interviewed him in 2011, in theory, should have remained his contacts.
Maybe there's a way to contact Kyle about it? I've been wondering about the setlist to the 8/27/1999 Tempe, AZ Big Fish Pub show, as well as the date to the 1999 live performance of "Esaul" that was released as an easter egg on 'Frat Party At The Pankake Festival'.
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We already got Brad's, Dave's, Joe's, and Mike's notes. Next we'll get Rob's. I wonder when we'll get that one, and I wonder, if possibly, that it'll be about a Meteora 20 celebration with a super deluxe box set. Honestly, though, who knows what the next note will be about.
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On 10/8/2022 at 1:51 AM, JZ-GreyDazePatheticWorship said:
Unexpected move, she was on board w Grey Daze and HT20, this is very weird I just don't get it. This song deserves to be heard I wonder if $$ Is the rea issue
Maybe one of us here at LPLive could ask Talinda about the situation to see what's going on with the song. Just an idea.
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Back in 2001, right before Linkin Park's European tour in September, Linkin Park gave an interview to OnStage where Mr. Hahn revealed he and Mike had worked on a track with the hip hop group The Visionaries. "Chester just did a song with Cyclefly and also with DJ Lethal, and Mike and I just finished a track with the Visionaries too."
Later, in 2006, KeyKool, a member of The Visionaries, was questioned by a Linkin Park fan about the song. This was his answer:
"Hey, LMNO did a song with Mike Shinoda back in the day, maybe 6 years ago.
Then the Visionaries recorded a song with Joe Hahn and Mike Shinoda, and I believe some of the rest of the group was supposed to add stuff to the song...anyhow, it was before the "ReAnimation" album, and we all decided not to put the song out....so, I guess it's just one of those, never heard, never put out things.
We've only heard a rough version of the song, and never heard anything after that.
Kool, give thanks."
The song was finally released on April 20, 2015 by 2Mex through his Bandcamp page. The song can be purchased for $1.
LMNO said about the recording, "The Visionaries recorded the song at Kevin Sakodas, Mike wasn’t there Joe wasn’t either". Questioned if the song had a title, he answered, "Honestly I’m not sure".
Years later, we have an update on if the song had a working title or not from Dannu:
"Unreleased" didn't have a title because him and the rest of the Visionaries all agreed it wasn't worthy of being released. The whole recording of the song was not what you hear on this version. The song was all spilt up and the rapper was supposed to rhyme in between. That's why the song sounds weird. According to him, it would have been better we they all wrote it together.
When I asked him about if he knows who raps what specific parts during the chorus of that song and if they are sampled vocals from another song or is it just him and his bandmates that are rapping those parts, he said this:
QuoteThose are all scratches from records… only DJ Rhettmatic knows.
I also asked him if he knew anything about the LMNO/Mike Shinoda collaboration from 2000, when Linkin Park were called Hybrid Theory, and he replied to me with this:
QuoteNope, that's an LMNO question.
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42 minutes ago, LPsMart said:
Do you know anything about music theory?
You got me there. No, I don't.
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Very late on this, but here's an update to this 2-3 months later: Almost 2 months ago I messaged Chris Flores about if the song was done, since he told me two weeks before that that the song should be done in a couple of weeks, but, anyways, he replied back to me with this:
QuoteYes it's done. Sounds amazing! Bad news though. Talinda doesn't want to release it for some reason.
I then messaged him if she gave a reason on why she didn't want it released, and he replied back saying "No", meaning she didn't give a reason on why she didn't want to release the song. He also said that "maybe because the song is about her" and he said that he's pretty upset about the song not being released, as well as saying that maybe one day, it will be released.
I then told him about if he confirmed Slash and Talinda's approval for him playing the snippet of the demo of the song. I also mentioned about Talinda wanting to release the demo the way it was, before the song got re-recorded with live instruments, but Chris decided to return to the studio to finish the demo before the idea was eventually shelved. I also asked if she changed her mind or something. He replied back to me with this:
QuoteYes she changed her mind for some reason. Since she never released it, I wanted to get Matt Starr and Doug Pinnick on there before she did decide to and now she told me she "came to the conclusion that she doesn't want to release it."
I recently just asked Chris if Talinda changed her mind again on wanting to actually release the track or not, and he told me "No".
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On 9/24/2022 at 1:21 PM, leftshoe18 said:
Has anybody reached out about sharing the rest of the song since the auction ended?
Kinda late on it, but I messaged the owner through Twitter a week ago or so, and I have yet to get a reply back from her on it.
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On 8/7/2020 at 10:27 AM, LPLStaff said:
SONG TITLES on LinkinPark.com:
01. Dialate - Completely unknown/unheard song. Unknown if Mark or Chester sings the song.
02. PB (Edit) - Could be the legendary song "Pictureboard" which is unreleased, but teased by Mike several times dating back many years.
03. She Couldn't - Demo leaked by LPLive in July 2009, never officially released. Version leaked has static on the end of the song, a release on Hybrid Theory 20 would be a huge quality upgrade.
04. Could Have Been - Completely unknown/unheard song. Unknown if Mark or Chester sings the song.
05. Reading My Eyes - Xero song from 1996 on the 4 track cassette demo. Could be a re-recorded studio version with Mark from 1998, or a Chester audition version. Unknown if Mark or Chester sings this song.
06. Rhinestone - "Forgotten" demo. Xero song from 1996 on the 4 track cassette demo. Could be a re-recorded studio version with Mark from 1998 (leaked in 2019), a Chester audition version, or a Chester studio version (previously released). Unknown if Mark or Chester sings this song.07. Esaul - Xero song from 1996, turned into "A Place For My Head" eventually. Could be a re-recorded studio version with Mark from 1998, a Chester audition version, or a Chester studio version (previously released). Unknown if Mark or Chester sings this song.
08. Stick N Move - "Runaway" demo. Xero song from 1996 on the 4 track cassette demo. Could be a re-recorded studio version with Mark from 1998, or a Chester audition version. This song was not re-recorded with Chester in a studio version after he joined the band. Unknown if Mark or Chester sings this song.
09. Carousel - Since it isn't grouped with other Hybrid Theory EP songs, this is likely a demo from the Hybrid Theory demo CDs (7 track, 8 track, 9 track). Could possibly be unreleased.10. Points Of Authority - Unknown if this is a demo on one of the Hybrid Theory demo CDs or is unreleased.
11. Crawling - Unknown if this is a demo on one of the Hybrid Theory demo CDs or is unreleased.
12. Super Xero - "By Myself" demo. Unknown if this is a demo on one of the Hybrid Theory demo CDs or is unreleased.
Update 2 years later:
01. Dialate - 1996 Xero Demo (Mark sings the song). Previously unknown/unheard song.
02. PB (Edit) - 1999 demo. Is the legendary song "Pictureboard" which was previously unreleased, but teased by Mike several times dating back many years. (Chester sings the song).
03. She Couldn't - 2000 demo. Demo leaked by LPLive in July 2009, never officially released. Version leaked has static on the end of the song, a release on Hybrid Theory 20 would be a huge quality upgrade. (Chester sings the song).
04. Could Have Been - 1999 demo (Chester sings the song). Previously unknown/unheard song.
05. Reading My Eyes - 1997 Xero demo. Xero song from 1996 on the Xero 4 track cassette demo. Is the same version that's on the tape (Mark sings this song).
06. Rhinestone - 1998 Xero demo. "Forgotten" demo. Xero song from 1996 on the Xero 4 track cassette demo. Is the re-recorded studio version with Mark from 1998 (leaked in 2019) [Mark sings this song].07. Esaul - 1998 Xero demo. Xero song from 1996, turned into "A Place For My Head" eventually. Is a re-recorded studio version with Mark from 1998 (Mark sings this song).
08. Stick N Move - 2000 demo. "Runaway" demo. Xero song from 1996 on the Xero 4 track cassette demo. Is a Chester studio version (Chester sings this song).
09. Carousel - 2000 demo. 8/7-track demo version (Chester sings this song).10. Points Of Authority - 2000 demo. 6-track demo version (Chester sings this song).
11. Crawling - 2000 demo. 9-track demo version (Chester sings this song).
12. Super Xero - 2000 demo. "By Myself" demo. 9/8/7-track demo version (Chester sings this song).
Also, yes, this is 2 years late, lol.
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On 10/1/2022 at 9:53 PM, cubebuilder said:
Isn't this photo in Jeff's book aswell? Or is that the other photo from his book
It's a completely different photo from the ones that are shown in Jeff's book. I added the two photos from his book to the main topic post already, by the way. I also added the link to the show to the main topic post too.
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7 hours ago, wesleylpbr said:
this pic is from Samantha's book, isn't?!
I'm not entirely sure. I don't have her book, so I don't know.
Also, is this the book you are mentioning?: https://www.amazon.com/Falling-Love-Notes-Memories-Rock/dp/1735529907
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On 9/26/2022 at 12:16 AM, JZ-GreyDazePatheticWorship said:
Isn't this photo from the ht box set?
I don't remember seeing this photo in the book that came with the HT20 boxset.
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I've known about this image for a year now, but haven't gotten around to showing it, until now.
I originally saw it on an Instagram user's Instagram page about a year ago. That's how I originally found out about it.
It came from this site: https://www.timetoast.com/timelines/linkin-park-a2ff06f1-de83-4612-86e7-eb8294579f21
A larger and more clearer version of the same image was also pinned to Pinterest: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/799811215046432969/
Not only that, but the same larger and more clearer version of the image was pinned to Pinterest twice: https://www.pinterest.com/pin/791648440723219505/
The second Pinterest link leads to VK.com, where you can find the image: https://m.vk.com/photo-22736034_419659620?z=photo-22736034_456271849%2Falbum-22736034_00&list=album-22736034_00
I found the pages where the image was by reverse image searching it.
I honestly don't know who originally got the photo or where it originally came from, but it's pretty cool nonetheless.
Also, it's different from the photos we got in Jeff's book:
Here's the show that the photos come from:
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16 minutes ago, Kobzone said:
The link leads to a new tab saying that the site connection isn’t private and that the website might be impersonating www.mathclubmusic.com to steal my information.
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35 minutes ago, lpliveusername said:
The player was removed from the page but was still in the source code. Had links to various other songs.
Then how can you play the song?
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I recently just found another song that's on BMI that credited to Junkyard Scientific.
Til Next Time (Junkyard Scientific) BMI Entry: https://drive.google.com/file/d/15YzzBPlb6ClFuFMnn69vFcu1lQHkmdie/view
WRITERS / COMPOSERS CURRENT AFFILIATION IPI #
FISHER COLTON (BMI) 356270853
KATALBAS JAMES KEITH (BMI) 636420755
MAGINN RYAN PATRICK (SESAC) 476992981
RABINOWITZ JASON (BMI) 508210198PUBLISHERS CURRENT AFFILIATION IPI #
THE MATH CLUB MUSIC (BMI) 734992899Performers
JUNKYARD SCIENTIFICAlternate Titles
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How do you find the Junkyard Scientific song "Flight Path"? I look on the Linkinpedia website on the Junkyard Scientific page and found this link that was supposed to lead me to the song. Instead, it shows me the page, but it just says the words "Summer Be Like" and there's nothing else. Besides the words I mentioned before, the page is blank. There's no audio file that pops up for you to listen to. The link that has the song "Animal House" works, though.
"Deftest" (Xero Song)
in Newswire
Posted · Edited by NJPLP
Does anybody know what happened with this? Does it have to do with Warner not wanting it out there or something? He only uploaded the "Rhinestone" instrumental to his SoundCloud before removing it again and put that video up on his YouTube channel of him playing some of the tape. I've asked TJ himself through Instagram, but he hasn't replied back to me. I heard from someone that he "disappeared off the face of the earth" after LPLive's interview with him, lol.