NJPLP

I have seen that some people think that the song is about Chester. At first, I thought that too, but now that I've thought more about it, it's most likely not about him. I have 2 ways of interpreting what the song is truly about:

 

1. The song is about not letting the memories of loved ones and those you care about (like friends and family) go away and to remember those memories of them long after their deaths.

 

2. The song is about a friend that hasn't been gone from your life for so long, yet, you still keep the memories you had with them with you, despite that friend not being a part of your life for so long.

 

There can definitely be more ways to interpret what the meaning of the song is, but those are the 2 interpretations I have come up with for what the meaning of the song is.

7 minutes ago, martinez said:

Just for the safety (because not everyone want to see any spoilers) added a spoiler tag.

That's perfectly fine, lol. I still can't figure out those two lines in the 2nd verse, though. Even when I slow the song down, I can't completely tell what he's saying during those lines (the ones with the "[?]").

Since there's this topic now, I guess I'll share the lyrics now (of what I could understand):

 

2 hours ago, RayGun4200 said:

I know they do, i was asking for audio clips of the clicking and possible misalignment and 808 bass and synth cause I can't hear what he's talking about 

I know what he's talking about with the clicking in the chorus. I can hear that.

 

Here's a part of it at the beginning of the song in the backing stem (it's also in the choruses, as well), and that same part with the volume increased. It can be more clearly heard in the one with the volume increased.

 

Also, you can hear the strings from the verses of the song in the bass stem, if you listen very closely. This is the bass from the first verse to the bridge (which should also include the 808 bass he mentioned).

 

As for the synth, I'm not sure what he's talking about there.

On 4/15/2025 at 11:35 PM, YRQRM0 said:

 

I think it's 

 

"They will (or won't?) cut you open, just to watch you bleed
They will chew you up and spit you out like they did me" 

I love the "spit you out" lyric on that melody 

There's an extra part that you're forgetting. At around 0:23 in the video, you can hear this:

"[?] (Not sure what he's saying at the beginning), just to say my name

Falling for the promise of the emptiness machine"

 

Also, I can hear an "and" before "they" in "they will cut you open, just to watch you bleed"

11 hours ago, RayGun4200 said:

Can you send an audio clip or something kinda curious. Also the thing is they wouldn't need to make it DIY or partially DIY, LP always got the legit stems from GH, RB, Fuser etc, it could be a slightly different version of Faint since there's clear differences in the Lying From You RB version so that could be why? I d k maybe some one here should look into it or something. 

The stems come from Fortnite.

 

Also, I was wondering if the "fucking" part of "so fucking naive" could be restored in the Fortnite vocals stem while removing the choir vocals from the original acapella in the acapellas / acapellas & instrumentals albums of 'From Zero'. I have yet to figure out a way to remove the choir from the main vocals in the original acapella. The Fortnite vocals stem for "The Emptiness Machine" doesn't have the choir (which, honestly, makes the vocals cleaner, in my opinion).

With the fact that we now have the stems for “The Emptiness Machine”, “Up From the Bottom” and “Faint”, it makes me think that there may be a chance for us to get stems to Linkin Park tracks of which we don’t have the stems of (two big ones for me being “A Place For My Head” [a song from Hybrid Theory that we don’t have the stems of] and “From the Inside” [which is the only single from Meteora that we don’t have the stems of].

On 3/1/2025 at 12:49 PM, JZLP-Benningstrong said:

I think that Numb was always the demo title.

I don’t think it was confirmed what the working title to “Numb” is.

On 1/10/2025 at 12:38 PM, felipeintheend said:

Wonder if we will ever see a HT/Xero live rec.... maybe only Mike has something like that.

I wonder that too, and while I also would like to know if that would happen one day, it's probably unlikely that it'll happen, but, who knows. Also, this topic is about Grey Daze shows, so this is kinda unrelated to this specific topic, lol.

21 hours ago, unksoldier2000 said:

 

following this order

• FM 808 Most Kings
• FM Clap Most Kinds
• FM Crash Most Kings
• FM Kick Organized
• FM Loop Diamonds 100bpm
• FM Loop Episodes 93bpm
• FM Loop GUITAR Most Kings 95bpm
• FM Loop Most Kings 95bpm
• FM Loop Player 103bpm
• FM Loop Tamb Player 103bpm
• FM Ride Most Kings
• FM Snare Most Kings
• FM Snare Organized
• FM Snare Traffic
• FM Snare Zion
• FM Tamb Organized
• FM Yo HAt
• FM Yo Snare

 

 

Where did you find these samples? They sound cool!

 

Edit: Also, I think I was able to figure out a loop idea for "Most Kings", using the samples you provided: https://voca.ro/197mxrEGwoTO

On 12/27/2024 at 1:06 PM, lpliveusername said:

5-Track "Xero" disc:

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- All songs with Chester.

- Carousel and Part of Me were both different versions.

- Some different Chester vocals on the Part Of Me pre-chorus. The samples of Chester's vocals in the verses are totally different vocal takes with more vocals, the “yeaaah. Yeaaaah yeaaaah.”

- Different intro with Chester vocals on Carousel. Has a Chester vocal break before the first verse after the intro, like a mini acapella chorus.

I forgot to ask, but were the Chester 1999 Xero versions of "Carousel", "Part of Me" and "And One" the same instrumentally as the Hybrid Theory EP versions of the songs, or did they sound different, and if so, how different?

On 12/16/2024 at 9:35 AM, Ryanz said:

We have a lot more potential info now, with the songs from HT20 + Jeff Blue's book and all the demos he showed in photos and interviews. 
@NJPLP I saw that you posted a lot of those Jeff Blue tapes on Genius, we might as well list them all on here if it helps.

(and yes, this is my first time using this account in almost 9 years)

Well, in that case.

 

1996

 

4 track cassette demo (1996)
1. Dialate (Xero Demo)
2. Deftest - Full song unreleased
3. Unknown Song 1 (real name of song unconfirmed) - Full song unreleased
4. Stick N’ Move - same version as Xero SC/Baby Tape

 

 

1997

Xero 4 track A&R cassette demo (1997)
1. Dialate (Xero Demo)
2. Fuse - same version as Xero SC/Baby Tape
3. Deftest - Full song unreleased
4. Stick N’ Move - same version as Xero SC/Baby Tape

 

Xero 3 track DAT cassette demo (1997)
1. Fuse - same version as Xero SC/Baby Tape
2. Reading My Eyes (Xero Demo)
3. Stick N’ Move - same version as Xero SC/Baby Tape

 

Xero 4 track cassette demo (November, 1997)
1. Fuse - same version as Xero SC/Baby Tape
2. Dialate (Xero Demo)
3. Stick N’ Move - same version as the Xero SC/Baby Tape
4. Reading My Eyes (Xero Demo)

 

Xero (Shopping Cart/Baby Tape) (November, 1997)
1. Rhinestone (1997 Demo)
2. Reading My Eyes (Xero Demo)
3. Fuse
4. Stick N Move

 

 

1997/1998

Xero 3 track DAT cassette demo (1997/1998)
1. Rhinestone (1997/1998 Xero Demo)*
2. Dreamer - Unreleased
3. Weight - Unreleased

 

 

1998

Xero 5 track demo CD (1998)
1. Esaul (Xero Demo)
2. Pictureboard (Xero Demo)
3. Rhinestone (Xero Demo)
4. Fiends (feat. Emcee 007)
5. Slip (Xero Demo) - Unreleased

 

Xero 818 4 track cassette demo (1998)
1. Esaul (Xero Demo)
2. Pictureboard (Xero Demo)
3. Rhinestone (Xero Demo)
4. Fiends (feat. Emcee 007)

 

Xero 4 track demo CD (1998)
1. Esaul (Xero Demo)
2. Pictureboard (Xero Demo)
3. Rhinestone (Xero Demo)
4. Fiends (feat. Emcee 007)

 

Xero 9 track demo CD (November 14, 1998)
1. Rhinestone (Xero Demo)
2. Esaul (Xero Demo)
3. Pictureboard (Xero Demo)
4. Fiends (feat. Emcee 007)
5. Stick N Move (Xero Demo) - Unreleased
6. Carousel (Xero Demo) - Unreleased
7. Slip (Xero Demo) - Unreleased
8. Pointillism ("So Far Away" 1998 Demo) - Mike Shinoda demo (Unreleased)
9. Step Up (Xero Demo) - Unreleased

Xero Instrumentals (December, 1998)
1. Rhinestone (Xero Demo) - Instrumental version
2. Pictureboard (Xero Demo) - Instrumental version (Unreleased)
3. Esaul (Xero Demo) - Instrumental version (Unreleased)

 

 

1999

 

Xero 5 track demo CD (Old Mix) (April, 1999)
1. Part of Me (1999 Xero Demo) - Unreleased
2. Carousel (1999 Xero Demo) - Unreleased
3. And One (1999 Xero Demo) - Unreleased
4. Rhinestone ("Forgotten" Demo)*
5. Esaul (”A Place for My Head” Demo)*

 

Xero New 3 track demo CD (April, 1999)

1. Part of Me (1999 Xero Demo) - Unreleased
2. Carousel (1999 Xero Demo) - Unreleased
3. And One (1999 Xero Demo) - Unreleased

 

Hybrid Theory 2 track demo CD (1999)
1. SuperXero (“By Myself” Demo)
2. *__ (Unknown Song) - Unreleased

 

Hybrid Theory 3 track demo CD (1999)
1. And One*
2. Carousel*
3. Part of Me*

 

Hybrid Theory 6 track demo CD (1999)
1. Rhinestone ("Forgotten" Demo)
2. Esaul (”A Place for My Head” Demo)
3. Pictureboard
4. Blue
5. Step Up
6. High Voltage

 

Hybrid Theory demo CD (early May, 1999)
1. Over To Me (Blue)
2. Could Have Been
3. Rhinestone (“Forgotten” Demo)
4. Esaul (”A Place for My Head” Demo)
5. Part of Me (Demo) - Unreleased
6. Turn to Grey - Unreleased
7. Pictureboard
8. Ashes - labeled on the CD as being "unfinished" (Unreleased)

 

Hybrid Theory Complete Demos CD (June 1999)
1. Points & Authority (Demo)
2. SuperXero (“By Myself” Demo)
3. Untitled (It Doesn’t Matter) ["In the End" Demo] - Unreleased
4. Carousel*
5. Part of Me*
6. And One*
7. Rhinestone ("Forgotten" Demo)
8. Esaul (”A Place for My Head” Demo) 
9. Pictureboard - Different unreleased version of the song
10. Blue
11. Could Have Been
12. Turn to Grey - Unreleased
13. Ashes - Unreleased
14. Fiends (feat. Emcee 007) - previous vocalist (Mark Wakefield)
15. Slip (Xero Demo) - previous vocalist (Mark Wakefield) [Unreleased]

 

Hybrid Theory EP (July, 1999)
1. Carousel
2. Technique (Short)
3. Step Up
4. And One
5. High Voltage
6. Part of Me
7. Hidden Instrumental Track

 

Hybrid Theory 5-Track Demo CD (1999)
1. Carousel*
2. Part of Me*
3. And One*
4. Rhinestone ("Forgotten" Demo)
5. Esaul (”A Place for My Head” Demo)

 

Hybrid Theory 4-Track Demo CD (1999)
1. Points of Authority (Demo)
2. Carousel*
3. And One*
4. Part of Me*

 

Hybrid Theory 5 track demo CD (1999)
1. Points of Authority (Demo)
2. SuperXero (“By Myself” Demo)
3. Carousel*
4. And One*
5. Part of Me*

 

Hybrid Theory 9 track demo CD (mid-August, 1999)
1. Untitled (It Doesn’t Matter) ["In the End" Demo]
2. Points &/And Authority (Demo)
3. SuperXero (“By Myself” Demo)
4. Crawling (Demo)
5. Carousel (9 Track Demo)
6. Part of Me (9 Track Demo)
7. And One (Demo)
8. Rhinestone (“Forgotten” Demo)
9. Esaul (”A Place for My Head” Demo)

 

Hybrid Theory 3 track demo CD (late August, 1999)
1. Part of Me (Demo) - Unreleased
2. Flower ("She Couldn't" Demo) - Unreleased
3. Untitled (It Doesn’t Matter) ["In the End" Demo]

 

Hybrid Theory 2 track demo CD (late 1999)
1. A Place for My Head (Esaul)
2. By Myself (Demo)

 

Hybrid Theory Demo (November 23, 1999)
1. Esaul (Demo)
2. Carousel (Demo)
3. Rhinestone (“Forgotten” Demo)
4. Part of Me (9 Track Demo)
5. Untitled ("In the End" Demo)
6. SuperXero (“By Myself” Demo)
7. Crawling (Demo)

 

Hybrid Theory 9 track demo CD (November 29, 1999) - Same track list as 'Demos'
1. Untitled ("In the End" Demo)
2. Points &/And Authority (Demo)
3. SuperXero (“By Myself” Demo)
4. Crawling (Demo)
5. Carousel (9 Track Demo)
6. Part of Me (9 Track Demo)
7. And One (Demo)
8. Rhinestone (“Forgotten” Demo)
9. Esaul (”A Place for My Head” Demo)

 

Hybrid Theory 14 Songs From 12/13 Demo CD (December 13, 1999)
1. Esaul (Demo)
2. Crawling (Demo)
3. Slip (Hybrid Theory Demo)
4. SuperXero (“By Myself” Demo)
5. Rhinestone ("Forgotten" Demo)
6. And One (Inst. [Instrumental]) - Unreleased
7. Points &/And Authority (Demo)
8. Pictureboard
9. Carousel
10. Part of Me
11. New Ballad (She Had To Go) / New Slow - "She Couldn't"
12. Knight Rider - "So Far Away"
13. Stick N Move
14. Untitled ("In the End" Demo)

 

 

2000

 

Demos (Hybrid Theory 9 track demo CD) (January 7, 2000)
1. Untitled ("In the End" Demo)
2. Points &/And Authority (Demo)
3. SuperXero (“By Myself” Demo)
4. Crawling (Demo)
5. Carousel (9 Track Demo)
6. Part of Me (9 Track Demo)
7. And One (Demo)
8. Rhinestone (“Forgotten” Demo)
9. Esaul (”A Place for My Head” Demo)

Hybrid Theory 6 track demo (February, 2000)
1. Untitled ("In the End" Demo)
2. SuperXero (“By Myself” Demo)
3. Crawling (Demo)
4. Points &/And Authority (Demo)
5. Dust Brothers ("With You" Demo)
6. She Couldn’t

 

Hybrid Theory Canceled 8 Song EP (February, 2000)
1. Untitled ("In the End" Demo)
2. SuperXero (“By Myself” Demo)
3. Points &/And Authority (Demo)
4. Crawling (Demo)
5. She Couldn’t
6. Carousel (Demo)
7. Part of Me (Demo)
8. And One (Demo)

 

Hybrid Theory - Linkin Park - Demos from 02-2000 (February, 2000)
1. Untitled ("In the End" Demo)
2. SuperXero (“By Myself” Demo)
3. Points &/And Authority (Demo)
4. Crawling (Demo)
5. Carousel (Demo)
6. Part of Me (Demo)
7. And One (Demo)

 

Hybrid Theory 2 track demo (March, 2000)
1. Plaster ("One Step Closer" Demo) - No Bridge (Unreleased)
2. Papercut (Rough Demo) - Unreleased

 

Hybrid Theory 6 track demo (April 25, 2000)

1. Plaster ("One Step Closer" Demo)
2. Papercut (Demo)
3. Crawling (6-Track Demo)
4. Points of Authority (Demo)
5. Dust Brothers ("With You" Demo)
6. Untitled ("In the End" Demo)

 

Hybrid Theory EP (Different Version) (2000)
1. A Place for My Head (Esaul)*
2. The Cure for Mr. Hahn's Itch - HT Unmastered Studio Finals version
3. High Voltage (B-Side Rarities) - Most likely unmastered
4. By Myself*
5. Kids - Unmastered version of "Dedicated"
6. And One
7. And Two - Outro of "And One" (Unreleased) [?]

 

Hybrid Theory (Unmastered Studio Finals 5/7/00) [May 7, 2000]

1. Paper Cut

2. Now I See - "With You"

3. Points of Authority

4. Plaster - "One Step Closer"

5. Crawling

6. Runaway

7. The Untitled - "In the End"

8. By Myself

9. The Cure - "Cure for the Itch"

10. The Cure for Mr. Hahn's Itch - "Pushing Me Away"

11. A Place for My Head

12. Forgotten

 

 

(P.S. This is not the final list, as I will continue to update it as we continue to find out about new demos.)

 

The ones with an asterisk (*) beside means that it's unknown what version of the song that is.

On 12/27/2024 at 12:01 PM, lpliveusername said:

I think it's a case of "Mike was creating it for a soundtrack" but it got repurposed for the band. Maybe the soundtrack deal didn't work out. The song could have been intended to be an instrumental on the soundtrack and the vocals came later, around the time Jeff Blue first heard it.

 

What's interesting is that So Far Away is listed as Knight Rider on all demo CDs we've seen. Jeff Blue called it "Knight Rider Theme".

 

There was actually a Knight Rider series that started in 1997 and ended in 1998 called Team Knight Rider, but nothing came out from the franchise for quite some time after that and Hurry samples a song released in 1998, so it couldn't be for that. Could have been from a canceled Knight Rider project or it could be just a case of the band naming it like that because they thought the song sounded similar to the Knight Rider theme.

This is the theme, correct?: 

 

 

I can kinda hear a little bit of the inspiration for it in this song.

3 hours ago, RayGun4200 said:

That's unfortunate SuperXero/By Myself (It's Much Too Easy Being Lost ver) isn't talked about or maybe it's on another CD hopefully not lost to time. 

Did someone ask him about the "Much Too Easy" ("By Myself") demo when LPLive met with Jeff?

48 minutes ago, bloodbath said:

Is this vault available somewhere? Or just Jeff showing off his collection?

It's him showing off his collection of Xero/Hybrid Theory/Linkin Park demos that he got over the years. No idea if he will put them out to the public. He would have to get permission from Warner & Linkin Park first if we wants to put them out to the public.

11 hours ago, Chazy987 said:

UPDATE 4

LINKIN PARK - HOLY GRAIL

 

 

XERO ERA

• Deftest (Full)
• Snippet Unknown Song (From Xero 4-Track Cassette Demo)
• Dreamer
• Weight
• Pointillism
• Slip (Mark Wakefield Version)
• Carousel (5-Track Xero Disc)
• Part Of Me (5-Track Xero Disc)

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HYBRID THEORY EP ERA

• Flower (Early ''She Couldn't'' Unreleased '99 Demo)
• Ashes
• Turn To Grey
• Untitled (From ''Complete Demos'')
• PictureBoard (Different Take, From ''Complete Demos'')
• Kids (Unmastered Dedicated Demo)
• And One/And Two (Separate Tracks)
• Stick N Move (W/Bridge)
• Points Of Authority (Version With NO Rap Part)

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HYBRID THEORY ERA

• And One: Live Studio Version
• Beat 04 (Mike Shinoda)
• Beat 10 (Mike Shinoda)
• Beat 23 (Joe Hahn)
• Harmonic Song
• PictureBoard (Alternative Studio Session)
• Possible B-Side For HT Sessions

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_REANIMATION_ ERA

• My December (DJ Crook Remix/Team Sleep Remix)
• Outtakes

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[METEORA ERA]

• Sick (Don’t Stay Demo)
• Don’t Stay (Alternate Reggae Version)
• Nocturnal (Nobody’s Listening Demo)
• Session (Demo)
• Numb (Demo)
• A6 (Version With Vocals)
• Somewhere I Belong (Alternate Takes)
• Resolution (The Wizard Song Version)
• Lost (Thoughts That Take Away My Pride Version)
• Plaster 2 (Singing Verses Version)
• Soundtrack (With Vocals)
• Rhinocerous (With Vocals)
• Meteora: Remixes
• Another Meteora B-Side (Like LOST)
• Healing Foot (NRG Sessions)

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COLLISION COURSE ERA

• Pre-works (Mike's Demo send to Jay-Z)
• Demos/B-Side

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MINUTES TO MIDNIGHT ERA

• Grecian
• Fire In The City
• No Roads Left (Chester Version)
• In Between (Chester Version)
• Chance Of Rain (Finished Version)
• Not Alone (MTM Version)
• Bleed It Out: 1 Of The 99 Other Versions
• 17th song (?)
• Japan
• Armada (Send To Rob)
• Chunky Munky
• Sterile Poon
• Canaries
• Warhol (Canaries_Canneries)
• Song A To Z
• Stitches (Given Up Demo)
• Shadow Of The Day (Demo)
• Ammosick (Pre-Mall Demo)
• MTM B-Side

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A THOUSAND SUNS ERA

• Ammosick (ATS Version)
• Blackout (Demo)
• Powerless (ATS Demo)
• Monday Meeting
• Fucking Awesome
• Chicken Basket
• Left/Right
• ATS B-Side

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LIVING THINGS ERA

• Until It Breaks, Demo N.4
• Skin To Bone (Demo)
• Castle Of Glass (Folk Version Demo)
• Warm Spell (Pre-Mall Demo)
• LT B-Side

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RECHARGED ERA

• In My Remains (Remix)
• Castle Of Glass (LP Remix)
• Burn It Down (MS Remix)

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THE HUNTING PARTY ERA

• The Glistening
• Odyssey/A Line In The Sand (Demo)
• Coffe (Key To The Kingdom) (Demo)
• Apes (?)
• Control/Spotify/Lifejacket
• White Noise (Pre-Mall Demo)
• THP B-Side

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MALL ERA

• Dancer (w/Vocals)
• Soundtrack Outtakes
• Original Song For The OST (?)

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ONE MORE LIGHT ERA

• Friendly Fire (Original 2017 Version)
• My Horizon
• Out Of Reach
• Ricochet
• Tidal Wave
• The Wyatt Durrette Song
• Corin Roddick Song (District 108)
• One More Light (Mike Version)
• Can We Go Back
• Can We Go Back II/The Future
• Sleepwalking
• Avicii Possibile Song (?)

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FROM ZERO ERA ⌀

• The Emptiness Machine (Original Mike Demo)
• Demos/B-Sides

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OTHER

• xx. Chester Final Songs (2017)
• xx. Looking For An Answer (Only Live Version Available, Studio Exists)
• xx. Post Traumatic B-Sides
• xx. Mike Hangin Out With EG white And K.Flay (?)
• xx. Early Works After Hollywood Bowl Show And Before Pandemic (’18-’19)
• xx. HT20: Reanimation Remixes
• xx. Grey Daze: Old Works/New Works (Without Chazy)
• xx. Joe, Mike, Phoenix And Emily Sessions
• xx. Meetings With Other Artists Before EastWest Studios And From Zero (Pre-’23)
• xx. MS Already Over (Demo With LP?)
• xx. The Machine Shop Mixtape 2005 Song
• xx. Fort Minor B-Sides
• xx. New Divide/Megatron Demo
• xx. We Made It: Early Version
• xx. Possible Kiaara Featuring Song
• xx. Possible Mark Hoppus Featuring Song
• xx. Micheal Bublé & Mike Shinoda Collaboration (?)
• xx. Sting & Mike Shinoda Collaboration (?)
• xx. Welcome (Ryu Mix) (Fort Minor)
• xx. I Hate The World Wright Now (2015 Chester Idea)
• xx. Head Like A Hole (Korn Featuring Chester Bennington)
• xx. U2 Remix By Mike
• xx. Crazy Full Song And Master (Slash Feat. Chester Bennington)
• xx. Dust Brothers Song
• xx. The Prodigy: Remix LP
• xx. Various LP Remixes Across The Years (By Or For LP)
• xx. Aoki X LP: Complete The Trilogy!
• xx  Whatever The Fuck (An Early Mike Shinoda Song)
• xx. Kings Of Leon: Remix by LINKIN PARK
• xx. Joe Hahn’s BMI: He Who Giveth (?)
• xx. Dead By Sunrise: Split Personality Demo
• xx. Dead By Sunrise: Evil Twin Demo
• xx. Stone Temple Pilots: High Rise EP B-Side
• xx. MS x Illenium

 

LINKIN PARK - HOLY GRAIL

For Xero, you're also missing the 1998 Xero versions of "Carousel" "Step Up", and "Stick N Move".

1 hour ago, lpliveusername said:

"Complete Demos" disc:

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- Different version of Untitled, which they described as raw, epic and their favorite thing they heard all day. Completely different mix and take than anything we've heard and different white noise rhythm at the intro too, like an extra click. Chorus sounded heavy, super grungy. Even earlier vocal take than the Untitled that we all know and both Mike and Chester sound very young.

- Ashes is the Xero Reborn LPUTV song. It start's with studio banter: young Brad says like “put it at the fastest possible tempo I can rap at” and everyone laughs in the background. The song is pretty much exactly how Jeff described it in his book. It isn’t very good.

- Blue and Could Have Been sounded the same or at least very similar to what we have.

- Turn To Grey was terrible. The song is really weird, very choppy rhythmically, and had some vocals that supposedly don't belong to Chester, Mike or Mark Wakefield (Mike and Chester were both on it in other places though). It legitimately sounds like both Mark Wakefield and Chester are on it, but Jeff said "no, just absolutely no way that’s possible." Described as "fucking crazy with abrupt song style changes into crazy shit" and "a shit show track." It has "a really shitty Mark chorus then goes into a super soft Chester part and the vocalists sound so incredibly different from each other I just have an impossible time believing that’s not Mark."

- Fiends sounded the same as the Rapology version.

- Slip with Mark was very similar arrangement-wise but the lyrics were totally different. The "this is the sun behind the rain" pre-chorus was the only part they kept. The song was a little faster than the version with Chester too.

- Chester's verse vocals on Pictureboard sounded like a different take.

- Everything else sounded the same.

 

5-Track "Xero" disc:

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- All songs with Chester.

- Carousel and Part of Me were both different versions.

- Some different Chester vocals on the Part Of Me pre-chorus. The samples of Chester's vocals in the verses are totally different vocal takes with more vocals, the “yeaaah. Yeaaaah yeaaaah.”

- Different intro with Chester vocals on Carousel. Has a Chester vocal break before the first verse after the intro, like a mini acapella chorus.

 

Hybrid Theory EP:

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- Kids is a Dedicated demo. It was the exact same takes of everything but it was unmixed / unmastered, so everything has different volumes on it. It was censored here too.
- Cure For The Itch transitions into High Voltage seamlessly. Cure For The Itch was the Studio Finals version with the different intro voice clips.

- Not totally sure that High Voltage was a demo as it sounded similar to the album version. It flows right out of Cure For The Itch, so that explains why it's like that on the released version. Same with And One/And Two.

- And Two is the rap part at the end of And One.
- Everything else was probably final, but didn't listen to A Place For My Head or By Myself to confirm.

 

1-Track Plaster disc:

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- "Over night" is probably a note on when they recorded it or something.

 

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- She Couldn't has another title called She Had To Go. It's also listed as New Slow and New Ballad.

- Knight Rider = So Far Away. Jeff called it "Knight Rider Theme" out loud, but didn't see it written that way anywhere.

- She Couldn't (She Had to Go) and So Far Away (Knight Rider) sounded really similar to what we have, maybe the same.

- A couple of the CDs seem to have instrumental versions of And One in their tracklists. Didn't ask about it.

- Didn't get to the CD that says "can't use" on Part Of Me, so didn't ask about it.

- There are versions of Untitled with live drums and without live drums.

- There are CDs with Stick N Move, but didn’t hear it.

- There weren't any different versions of And One that they heard. Jeff has like 20 CDs with And One and they couldn’t quickly find the live version in studio version. Might be in none of them.

- Jeff said Kyle is generally the one on the demos with Chester.

- There’s quite a few Studio Finals CDs, one of them has a totally different tracklist. Might have been the Plear (tentative band name) one. It goes: Paper Cut, Now I See, Plaster is like song 4 or 5, APFMH -> Forgotten closes the album.

With this information, now I need to know what the lyrics are to “Ashes” and “Turn to Grey”, despite “Turn to Grey” being a huge mess of a song, lol. This makes me want to hear these demos even more.

 

Also, did you get to hear the 1998 Xero demos versions of “Carousel”, “Step Up”, and “Stick N Move”?

8 hours ago, YRQRM0 said:

And now we know that Pointillism is So Far Away

I know, it’s crazy.

 

6 hours ago, unksoldier2000 said:

i was expecting Pointillism to be something totally different,  so that connected to the BMI entry

MAYBE Pointillism was featured in a NBA promo?

 

which songs could be on the BMI entry?

Rhinestone? (since it was featured on The Crow OST)

Pointillism? (since it was created for a soundtrack)

 

what other options it could be? Pictureboard? Esaul? Slip?

Who knows, lol. The only way we’ll find out what the NBA Inside Stuff track is is if we manage to get our hands on the episodes of the series from 1997/98/99.

 

6 hours ago, misterx92 said:

wow, so that confirms that there is a version with Mark's vocals, I really want to see Carousel and Step Up from that demo 😁

I honestly think that “Pointillism” is “So Far Away” but just Mike doing all the vocals, since it was something Mike came up with for a soundtrack, though, I could be end up being wrong.

I found another sample. The "staindcy" sample comes from the Staind song "Raw".

 

I'll see if I can find some more.

On 2/18/2024 at 11:11 AM, NSASS said:

How's this?

 

 

I've got a better version of it that I upscaled using AI.

 

Relative Degree 199506xx 1 (2x upscaled) — Postimages

 

 

 

For some reason, it's not wanting to be inserted as an image.

 

Edit: Also, here are the band logos on the poster, cropped to just the logos (both the original cropped images to just the logos and just the logos with the background removed (made transparent) with AI).

 

Relative Degree Logo 1 (199506xx 1) [2x upscaled] ( Circle) Photoroom modified (4) — Postimages

 

Relative Degree Logo 1 (199506xx 1) [2x upscaled] ( Circle) Photoroom modified (4) Photoroom — Postimages

 

Relative Degree Logo 2 (199506xx 1) [2x upscaled] Copy — Postimages

 

Relative Degree Logo 2 (199506xx 1) [2x upscaled] Copy Photoroom — Postimages

 

Edit 2: Fixed the second link. For some reason or another, the post was hidden, so I had to make it public again.

 

Edit 3: Fixed the links with new ones. For some reason, the images were removed on Imgur, so I decided to upload them again to Postimages instead.

45 minutes ago, LPLStaff said:

Over on Instagram, Mike shared a new Xero live photo from 1998. He did title the year correctly, as this is from June 24, 1998. This Xero show was at Backside Records in Burbank, California and is the third photo of the show to surface; ironically the first mention of the show was by Mike himself in 2020.

 

Here is the new photo Mike shared:

 

 

There are two other photos from this show, which show the rest of the band lineup after Mike and Brad, with Dave behind Mike:

 

 

 

In these photos, we get good shots of Mark Wakefield, Rob, Dave, and Joe. This would have been before Dave left Xero, which happened AFTER Chester joined the band. This is detailed on our Hybrid Theory EP page. Chester auditioned for the band in March 1999, with Dave departing sometime in mid-1999 - the date is not really known.

 

Here is the first full-band photo they took together with Chester:

 

 

As of 2024, these three photos are the only circulating photos of Xero in existence. A fun fact is the photo on the first Xero cassette demo (Fuse, Dialate, Stick and Move, and Reading My Eyes) is of the pre-Xero band Relative Degree (featuring Mark Wakefield, Dave Garrett, Brad Delson and Rob Bourdon) with a close-up photo of Mike Shinoda xeroxed in, as Mike was not in Relative Degree. Below you can see the first Xero demo tape, with the original photo of Relative Degree performing below it.

 

 

 

Thanks Mike for sharing this new photo!

I wonder if Mike has more photos from this show and other shows.

On 4/21/2021 at 8:55 AM, LPsMart said:

For those hardcore analyzing fans like me, this might be huge, for most people it won't.

When I converted the .snd-files into .wav I found out some of them originally had longer titles and seemingly ROMEREND.snd originally was named "ROMERENDEZVOUS1" and rome2_(3.snd was called "ROME2_(3_COINS)".

Which led me to this vinyl called "Rendezvous in Rome", especially to a track with the title "Three Coins In The Fountain". Et voilà: It is the source of the bing noises and the strings. (Hence the title Rendezvous, obviously.)

The story's over, I just wanted to share this with you guys.

Intriguingly, the song (“Three Coins In The Fountain”) was also sampled in the soundtrack of Brad Stoker’s Dracula in 1992. Specifically, the track that uses the sample is called “Mina’s Photo”.

I think it’s a case of it being sampled by another artist, but it’s really interesting, nonetheless. I wonder if the band knew of the song being sampled by someone else before them.

Edit: For those who are wondering how I found out about this information, someone in the comments of the YouTube video of “Technique (Short)” said something about it, specifically, this: 

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Fun fact: Sample was taken from the movie's soundtrack "Bram Stoker's Dracula - Mina's Photo".

 

You're welcome. 😂

 

 

I just thought of something just now. Maybe someone could do the same like this, but for the album names and album logos.

How did I miss this? Lol.
 

I agree that this came out of nowhere.

Maybe they should consider playing "Powerless" live, since that's the only song from 'Living Things' to not be played live.