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I don’t think those vocals of “the wizard song” exist is what Chester meant. They were just fooling around in Mike’s studio they probably never even recorded it. The instrumental would be interesting as it’s from the same era of demos as cumulus, soundtrack, etc.

Right I forgot about Pretty Birdie. Well in that case who knows maybe Shifter is actually TTTAMP or a demo for it. Or maybe a demo for a song that we've heard. Those would be cool as well. I think at some point, LPU just maybe might come back with some more demos and unreleased songs. Maybe an LPU 21? Pretty unlikely but I'm hoping at least.

Well apparently, 'Shifter' is said to be a demo for Somewhere I Belong. Do we have proof though that this was in fact a demo for Somewhere I Belong? Also, unrelated to that, it's worth noting that "Thoughts That Take Away My Pride" may not have been the final lyrics for the song. This could very well be the reason Mike does not remember those lyrics. When recording, Chester mentions (Making of Meteora) that they had to rewrite a song 97 times. They probably were talking about TTTAMP since that was the song they were recording. Mike might not remember that song having those lyrics because they might not have been the final ones. Just maybe.

That's really cool that Cuidado was actually a demo! And it's Lying From You! I'd love to hear it eventually!

It seems like it could be possible that the band took something from TTTAMP to make Burn It Down. I know they're literally like a decade apart but the chords are a bit similar, same key, and the hi hats are somewhat similar and the tempo is about the same. Idk maybe that song had some inspiration from TTTAMP. This could just be a coincidence though and they just happen to sound similar. The wizard song is also strangely similar. As i've said before, the instrumental of wizard song maybe could have been a demo of TTTAMP.

Well now it's confirmed that beat in "Mike's Shirt" LPUTV is actually Take Away My Pride. I discovered that several months back. You can also hear it play after chester sings "Talk To Me" in LPTV - The Studio II.

Yeah I know they were just joking around. I’m only talking about the instrumental of the wizard song sounds similar the verse of TTTAMP.

Do you guys think the wizard song instrumental whatever that instrumental was may have been a demo for TTTAMP? The chords are pretty similar and the tempo/key is the same. Also in Mike’s Shirt LPUTV during the second part of the verse part we hear of TTTAMP there is a sound that’s a double beep and it’s the same keys as the guitar in the chorus of The Wizard Song. Basically what I’m saying is they both have some sort of connection and I think that instrumental might actually be a demo for TTTAMP. Of course only like 20% sure though.

Found the stream where he talks about that other (more mellow) song. Time stamp is 2:06:18. He talks a little bit about the other unreleased song we know about. (Not TTTAMP)

I think it’s almost confirmed now that the title of the song isn’t anything like Thoughts That Take Away My Pride because Mike said he doesn’t remember those lyrics. It’s something different maybe a different lyric or It’s got a title that’s not in the lyrics (ex: Faint, Figure.09) just a random title that has nothing to do with the lyrics. Those lyrics that we’ve seen for the song may also have been an earlier version of the lyrics and not the final ones. That may also be why he doesn’t remember it.

That’s also possible. He didn’t share much about Pictureboard at all until the actual release of it. He just kinda said “oh it’s nothing that great guys”. He might not want to go into depth about certain songs that fans really want released because he doesn’t want to spoil too much about the song. I still hope we get some information about the track though because we literally have no info about it. He also said that chances are it’s likely a demo of a track that made it to the album but I really don’t think it is. It’s kind of similar to numb in the beat but hearing it you can definitely tell that it doesn’t sound like any of the other tracks at all. It sounds like it had a lot of electronic sounds used especially in the verse part (can be heard in LPUTV - Mike’s Shirt) which may be why it was cut. I know that they didn’t want to drag too far away from the Hybrid Theory sound and that’s what that song may have been doing. But anyways yeah he might not be sharing anything because he doesn’t wanna spoil anything or something because I know I definitely could see it being released at some point as it has been a mystery and a holy grail for literally like ever since Meteora.

Thanks the verse part is my favorite! The guitar isn’t the best I agree. The drums are ok but not great. Also I think that was the first time Mike has said anything to the public about Thoughts That Take Away My Pride. Surprisingly, it has never been talked about. It hasn’t been asked about much either only very few times in the old linkin park chats from the mid-2000s and later. Also I cannot find the stream link or the clip of him talking about it at the moment but I’ll comment it with a link when I do. Basically he said he remembered it but didn’t remember the title, and said that it goes into a heavier part after the clip played.

That could be but it is possible that he genuinely doesn’t know. You have to remember how many songs Linkin park has wrote. And since “Thoughts That Take Away My Pride” isn’t the most memorable he very well probably won’t remember it until hearing it. Once he hears it though he’ll probably say “Oh that’s that song!” We showed him that one Meteora demo once (the beautiful piano one that soaring man made a cover to) and he remembered it. We just gotta show him and he’ll probably remember it. I also made my own custom demo/cover of the song. I had to redo it once and it took pretty long. It’s not fantastic but it’s ok:

Thank you! I don't use Twitch so if someone could do that it would be great! Hopefully we can get to know a little more about the song that way.

Thanks for putting that up! I only knew the chorus part of the song now I know at least some of the verse. Also, Mike probably doesn't know right now what "Thoughts That Take Away My Pride" is right now as lpliveusername said. But I'm sure if could we show him the clip he'd remember it and possibly even the title. I think it would be awesome to have this song released on Meteora20 if that happens.

I think he probably does know what it is. Mike didn’t talk about Pictureboard much at all until the 20th anniversary of HT and Thoughts That Take Away My Pride isn’t really as memorable as PB. It’s kind of like the Pictureboard of Meteora except the opposite. Mike talked about Pictureboard and we never heard it until HT20. We’ve heard Thoughts That Take Away My Pride in small segments but no one in the band has ever Talked about it. I don’t think Mike has ever actually been asked about it which is why it hasn’t been talked about.

So someone put the lyrics on genius apparently: https://genius.com/Linkin-park-thoughts-that-take-away-my-pride-unreleased-meteora-demo-lyrics

Someone said in a thread somewhere that there was a lyric sheet shown and the song is titled “Pride” but I’ve seen the lyric sheet and the title can’t be seen only the chorus lyrics so I think they just made that up. It is possible that it might be “Thoughts” or “Pride” (although I don’t think it is) but it’s also possible the title we may have known all along. Like it might be Shifter or something. Also apparently the Nocturnal demo was leaked a while ago but it seems like that isn’t actually Linkin Park so it could be Nocturnal. Right now “Thoughts” is the only legit studio demo/possibly even a full song from the meteora recording session at NRG that we know exists.

Yes one of a few I mean. It could be 2 or 3 or 4 it could even be just that one. Around 15 were recorded. But I’m pretty certain it will be released at the 20th anniversary of Meteora like how Pictureboard was released at HT 20

Unfortunately no information has come up about the track yet. I’m still hopeful that at some point we will know more about it. I really wanna know the reason it was cut. We’re the lyrics bad? Did the producer not like it? It couldn’t be the instrumental because firstly it made it all the way to vocals, the last step in recording Meteora. And it’s also just a really cool instrumental. I think the reason why nobody has asked about it yet is because it just isn’t quite as memorable as a lot of other unreleased songs. I think it should be though because we know that about 15 tracks were recorded for Meteora. This track is definitely one of the two that didn’t make it. I’m 99% sure it will be released at SOME POINT, but for now all we can do is wait. (Also I would ask Mike about it myself during one of his streams, but I do not have Twitch)

Sorry about that guys. I didn’t know I was double and triple posting 😬 Just so I don’t double post again I’m gonna just say more here. Ok so I think it’s interesting that this track isn’t in a minor key unlike most every song on Meteora. At least to me it’s sounds like it’s in C major. Just thought I’d say that because I think every song on Meteora is in a minor key correct me if I’m wrong.

Well I think the song probably made it to the mixing session in NYC because it sounds really well mixed just like the other Meteora tracks in all those LPTV videos. But they cut it probably sometime right after for a reason we don’t know.

Yeah it’s funny. I was scrolling through LPTV videos and I had never seen “Mikes Shirt” So I watched it and said to myself “something about this background music seems really familiar. And it clicked right there. I went back to hear the Clip from the Summer Sanitarium video and right after the heavy part was the exact same song. I never thought the song was played during multiple LPTVs but I think it’s strong evidence that the band did like the track. I think it just had issues with the lyrics maybe they didn’t think they were good enough, as I’ve said before, They talked about this in the Making of Meteora how they kept rewriting lyrics. I think like Somewhere I Belong, they finished it a few times, rewriting it, but then I guess decided just to put the song aside and focus on the other tracks. I certainly do hope the song gets released. It is on nearly everybody’s wishlist and been a mystery known to fans 2 years longer than even Pictureboard. It’s my top pick out of all if I could pick one known unreleased song it certainly would be “Pride” as some fans have named it. I really would first like to know the real title. I came up with a few titles that I thought might fit the lyric sheet we saw: “Trapped” “Return to Me” “Trapped in Places” ”Return” that’s all I came up with. I also wanna say that I don’t have twitch so if anyone could like ask him during a stream about the song that would be awesome!

Sorry I’m on my phone it’s hard to type But yeah we have 4 sources, Making of Meteora at 24:31, and LPTV Episode 5 (The Vocals) at 1:37 (Same clip) LPTV Summer Sanitarium (Full) at 2:12 LPUTV Mike’s Shirt LPTV Episode 4 (The Studio 2) at 7:34 (playing through the studio speakers)

Also if you’re familiar with this video at the part where Chester sings “The only way you can talk to me!” You can hear a measure of the same exact song playing on repeat right after he sings. It’s gotta be the same song as Thoughts that take away my pride: So I guess the song does play several times during Lptv but because nobody knew the full song at all, no one recognized it I guess. I’ll keep looking for more videos and lptvs where the song might be secretly playing in the background.