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Possible, but just not very likely. figure.09 and plaster 2 both had demos from before they entered the studio, so it wouldn’t really make sense. But you could be right, they might’ve done some weird mix up stuff with the names when they were in the studio, working. Everything is after all just a working title there anyways. They could easily just have made a mistake on making both a plaster 2 and Figure.09 label or made a last minute decision once that board was already made, then just used Figure9 or Plaster 2 as the label to refer to Numb. It’d make sense too because even though they had different verse ideas for Figure.09, they likely weren’t working on two different song versions while in the album sessions (working with Don).

And the fact is, we don’t even know what this announcement is for at all and people are getting heated over it. Come on, like seriously?

For real. It’s like no matter what LP does people always get pissed. It’s annoying. But I guess it’s inevitable

Way to turn something that’s supposed to be fun into something that’s not. Come on. You think LP cares that much about being huge again? They got it all back in the day. Let them have their fun now if that’s what they want to do.

Could you imagine if it froze on like a date or something. Say 08:29:24 or something lol idk

I think I did hear someone else somewhere say they thought it was a demo chorus. It got confused with it I think because the 2nd half of the bridge is certainly instrumentally confusable with the chorus if taken in from only a small snippet.

I realized kind of recently that BTH has a different guitar part in the chorus that isn’t in the demo. The process of song creation is awesome.

“TTTAMP” was never a chorus. It was always the bridge. The clip in Making of Meteora and the WIP DVD is over the bridge, we now know because of the arrangement of Lost. The old/demo chorus if there was one at all possibly started with “Memories trapped inside of me”. The lyric sheet tells us that those lyrics were like in-between lines. But the way its sung in the WIP DVD snippet is as if it’s a chorus.

Scratch Sample itself was used first in “Dedicated” (2nd half of chorus). But it’s of course scratched differently on Lost.

There’s a LOT of songs from that album’s recording sessions. That album had 17 full finished but like around 30 near-finished for it if I remember. There ought to be several many possibly in the double digits that we could get to hear.

We all predicted the future, my friends. Nice. I said this similarly about Lost before it was uncovered. I thought it was a finished deal, and possibly even mixed by Andy Wallace, because of its use in later LPTV’s as instrumental. And it literally was Meteora’s “Across the Line” in terms of the album process, being the last one cut. Mike even said the same “13th song” thing with both songs lol. I also still find it so funny that Across the Line and Lost have such ironic titles. Across the Line being just “Across the Line” of Minutes to Midnight’s tracklist, the last one not making it, and of course Lost being “Lost”. There’s still many LPU exclusives and instrumentals from various albums that I can’t wait to see hit streaming someday. MTM20 is still 3 years away, but I’m like getting hype for it already. While it has more of the finished songs already released, You just know they’re gonna do something for MTM20, and put out songs from that album era we haven’t heard. Like “Grecian”. Still we haven’t gotten to hear that. I feel like it could be a finished or near finished song.

I agree. I think the coolest part is the last chorus, definitely resembles the finished version well. The intro through the first verse is also a lot like the song. In general, the actual song had a shorter intro than I expected, but other than that it does everything better. The general melodies in Lost are a bit different from the rest of Meteora, too, which makes it stick out. It's a song that is definitely ahead of it's time, the 2002 mix really shows that even though it mostly just sounds like a Meteora song. There just wasn't music back then that combined the elements that song does. That's Linkin Park doing what they set out to do.

Session and Numb share a lot of Joe’s effects samples. I was saying those similarities make it clear it was probably always intended to be with Session before the album was put together/sequenced, during the process.

No, no. I forgot to clarify. I was talking about Session and Numb.

Nope. It’s clearly meant to be an inside joke lol. I always thought it was just at someone in the studio named Randy. It’s the same as when Chester said “I ordered a frappuccino where’s my fucking frappuccino?” on the other song. Out of context intro, just even less context this time.

Well I actually wonder what if Numb’s working title was “Untitled II”. Like Figure.09 and Plaster II. Lol, FAR more likely that it being “Session”. It doesn’t make sense to the red song board’s status or anything going by what we know about that album process at all. Other than that, the two tracks share a lot of instrumentation. I really think Numb was just created to be a track that Session could properly open for, and it turned into an amazing song, very quickly.

Cool little thing I stumbled across today, so this vinyl was used by Joe for Meteora songs live back in the day. Side B along with Numb and Session, there are 2 samples that are specific to Lost. 24:12 (The other two are Numb's, but the vocal "AH" sample belongs to Lost's verse.) 25:26 (This is on both Numb and Lost I think but this version is from the first half of Lost's bridge, with Joe doing cool in and out effects with it.) Time stamps are 24:12, and 25:28 (NOISE WARNING) They typically got all of the samples and sounds that Joe does his scratching on for live shows ready on the vinyl during mixing which we know Lost did make it through for Meteora. Interesting to find this again now, I forgot about it.

This is true. And it’s also mostly they kind of put together the package without really paying attention to certain things that matter within any album. With the transitions issue, still this collection is an album on streaming. It will be played start to finish and should connect the songs together well and they just didn’t treat it that way.

Not my point. Im well aware of Warner. I meant the label too. They can still fuck up and they do. They without a doubt have enough resources, but still somehow miss really important details like this. Believe it or not even the major labels still have a lot to learn or even re-learn to get things right sometimes! Same things happen with companies, even congress, any group of people working in major fields. People individually or with 300 others, can and do make stupid mistakes. A label isn’t a run by a label, it’s run by people. Again, im not defending the label or their actions. I think they should’ve done better and yeah it’s a little disappointing.

To be fair like HT20 was a first for the band, but look at the second time they did it with Meteora20, that was a quality step up. This is a first too, being the first time they’re doing an inter-album collection like this. Not saying it is an excuse to any fuck ups though, at all. If they genuinely made mistakes, they’ll learn to improve from them and not do it again. Believe it or not even the most sophisticated professionals still can mess shit up in their most skilled areas.

I wonder why no actual lengths of the songs have been listed in the tracklisting, do they usually wait to the release to put the lengths? I can’t remember if they waited with Meteora20. (I know we had the leaks though) Maybe it’s just they don’t need to cause everyone knows the songs and the lengths already, though. Still kind of odd not to include it in the info section.

The only thing confusing about that is not getting them for Lost, a single. Maybe it’s because it was on a “demo” CD idrk. Maybe we’ll still get them one day though.

I wouldn’t say we’re devolving, we’re really just sharing what we think about the release. I wouldn’t complain personally but I’d like it if more songs had these, so we don’t have to rip the tracks with flawed AI that we pay for. Not a fan of OML as much as other things LP did. Now an official Acapella/instrumental of Lost would’ve had me jumping in my boots. But I’m happy and glad they’re still putting out stuff whatever it is I’m definitely willing to listen to it. I’ve still got my personal opinion that Meteora is a better album than OML. So I’m just not super stoked about a Friendly Fire instrumental and acapella. Doesn’t mean I’m not grateful for everything LP has given to us throughout all these years. And also, obviously but of course, being a fan doesn’t mean you have to love everything a band has ever created.

Nah

There’s always a working name given to any track the band starts a session on. Even further, In the Hybrid Theory and Meteora days, the band always created a track before recording vocals. It definitely has something a working title even though it came together quick. It just doesn’t probably doesn’t have a demo. Since there’s no real (different at all from the final) demo for Numb probably, knowing the working title for Numb would be really just for the sake of knowing and also to put it up there on Linkinpedia of course.