No Guitar in LOATR anymore?

[Op4blushift]

I'm not sure about the other shows, but i was listening to the Manchester dsp and it sounds like they've decided to take out the guitars in the song.

[Pez]

Good find. I think the rhythm is there (thats Phoenix part) but lead is very very faints or just not their at all

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qm46AclxeHA

 

You can see both Brad and Phoenix playing here tho, specially the end. Weird.

[Op4blushift]

Yeah, i guess they wanted the strings to stand out more i guess.. but i still think they shouldn't have completely taken the lead guitar part out (or turned it down to the point where you cant even hear it)..

[MONDREUS240]

They dropped it because it was too hard of a part for Brad to play (Sarcasm).

[linkin_boss]

i think we need some astat on this thread

[Malvarr]

i think we need some astat on this thread

well, in the Birmingham dsp if you listen very deep you will listen the guitar. But i think it's the mix, they lowed the guitar on leave out the rest. This happens with Faint too, to be especific when brad play octave it's always look the volume is turned down.

[LPxDC]

Well the band did say they wanted the new songs to sound like ATS ://///

[Pez]

Well the band did say they wanted the new songs to sound like ATS ://///

I Lol'd

[Op4blushift]

They dropped it because it was too hard of a part for Brad to play (Sarcasm).

haha yeah one octave and like two notes are way too hard to play xD

[Spin]

Just listened to the London 2 DSP and the guitar is definitely there on LOATR.

[Op4blushift]

Just listened to the London 2 DSP and the guitar is definitely there on LOATR.

Thats wierd. I wonder why they decided to up the guitars on that show and not on the others?

[Astat]

They've been mixing a few songs differently since the start of the 2009 tour, and that's one of the more noticeable changes they've made - they turned the guitars way down in LOATR and brought up the keyboards. One other change I can remember off the top of my head is they've brought up Rob's drum part in the verses of No More Sorrow.

 

As a side note, Brad stays off stage for most of LOATR, even though he plays guitar in the first 2 choruses. Instead, he walks out at the same time Phoenix does for the last chorus. I think he started doing that sometime in '08.

[hahninator]

They've been mixing a few songs differently since the start of the 2009 tour, and that's one of the more noticeable changes they've made

The samples at the end of Papercut are much more distinguished/louder in the mix (the ones most people didn't even know about until the Smokeout 03 video of it was released) now. That's another one.

 

I think he started doing that sometime in '08.

Correct.

[Mystery]

they turned the guitars way down in LOATR and brought up the keyboards.

I like that they are doing it this way. Plus the guitars in the original version of the song seem boring.

[ana]

Mh I dont know if dave played the guitar on the both LOATR performances Ive seen. Ive recorded them yes, but Ive always been on the left side and far away from dave...

 

mhh.

[karla]

they turned louder keyboard from numb too

[LPVTRN]

It's too weird for me, at first I really dug the new quality but on some songs they turned the bass up way too loud, doesn't work on loatr

[sublimeric]

I didn't notice it when I listened, but I love the little intricacies that 90% of the fans don't know/care about. LPL 4 LIFE

[Dr.Biggy]

They just turn up the strings to get your attention of of chesters incorrect singing

[Revival]

This track's a total bore live now, worse than it was before, necessary in the setlist I guess, but I'd rather get SOTD.

[ChuckCheese]

This track's a total bore live now, worse than it was before, necessary in the setlist I guess, but I'd rather get SOTD.

I'd rather have neither haha.

[FearOfTheDuck]

In an almost completely unrelated story, the London 1 DSP has the electronic effect that fades out on the studio version very high up in the mix throughout the song. Is this common to all the shows on the tour?

[Pez]

I'd rather have neither haha.

Disagree. The way LP performed SOTD at the 3 shows I saw here in Aus, they had a great amount of energy as well as performed it well. Its a good soft song that is pretty upbeat and head nod-able.

[Op4blushift]

Disagree. The way LP performed SOTD at the 3 shows I saw here in Aus, they had a great amount of energy as well as performed it well. Its a good soft song that is pretty upbeat and head nod-able.

Yeah, when they performed it in melbourne mike got everyone in the seats to stand up and the crowd really seemed to enjoy it.

[praya]

Here's my thing. Rather than have brad do next to nothing onstage why don't they just leave the guitars in? I haven't seen all the live footage captures of w&k but from what i did saw chester was banging away at the MPC. couldnt brad just have played it out? I understand it was created through mpc stabs but I mean for the sake of giving everyone something to do. Idk if they changed that, but its simple moments like that, that puzzle. Maybe certain songs weren't meant for guitar or dj scratching or brad phoenix singing. but if u can bring a bad ass sound that may be slightly different for the live version... why not do it?