hahninator Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 The newest update from Chester's Twitter..... "To Jody Rosen critic at Rolling Stone and Mr. Douchebag at New York Times. Thank you for your kind words *wink* glad you like the record" NY Times CD review can be found here; Rolling Stone here. Excerpt from the Stones review: "Ashes is slightly redeemed by ballads like "In the Darkness," which bears a resemblance to the winning emo turn Linkin Park took on the Rick Rubin- produced Minutes to Midnight (2007). But the album is oddly inert, lacking both the brute force and big choruses that raised Linkin Park to rap-rock godhead status." I think the term "emo" is being thrown around too much. What do you think? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/2693-chester-vs-ny-times-rolling-stone/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero21 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I saw this. Emo is really sort of a generic term now-a-days to describe angsty lyrics. I kind of see where the NY times guy is coming from when he says the lyrics are a bit generic, but Jody Rosen seems to have missed the point completely. She says DBS doesn't have the LP sound. Well that's kind of the fucking point. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/2693-chester-vs-ny-times-rolling-stone/#findComment-41664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraDoN Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 lyrically OOA is pretty bad at times. Chester needs to get humble and get that there will always be disliking reviews... I mean i like OOA but its far from a masterpiece Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/2693-chester-vs-ny-times-rolling-stone/#findComment-41675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spraypaintninkpens Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 MTM made me a little emo because it was so disappointing. Whatever though, dbs is a decent band now let's get back to lp. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/2693-chester-vs-ny-times-rolling-stone/#findComment-41676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zuben7o7 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 It is the fucking point but I think more of what was trying to be said was DBS doesn't fulfill the same type of "bam" that LP did and does. While so many of LP's songs are right in your face with some great guitar tracks and high-energy choruses, DBS doesn't hit that very much and I think she was simply saying DBS doesn't come close to the raw talent and energy that LP brings which is very true. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/2693-chester-vs-ny-times-rolling-stone/#findComment-41677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kruspe Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Well to be honest: I like the songs. the melodys and rythyms are amazing. BUT: the lyrics are too sad and emo indeed. Comon you are like 35 years old, you shouldnt stuff like "I wanna cut through my skin" and "Sometimes I feel like I wanna die". They have a good point on that one. Besides that, even though theyre good musicians (also live), i cant watch their live performances. They come over like gays, except for Chester. Now dont be mad at my post, but Im telling you how I feel about DBS. Amazing music, but really really too sad lyrics and clothes and make up etc. And I really cant stand emo's. Sorry guys. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/2693-chester-vs-ny-times-rolling-stone/#findComment-41681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraDoN Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Well to be honest: I like the songs. the melodys and rythyms are amazing. BUT: the lyrics are too sad and emo indeed. Comon you are like 35 years old, you shouldnt stuff like "I wanna cut through my skin" and "Sometimes I feel like I wanna die". They have a good point on that one. Besides that, even though theyre good musicians (also live), i cant watch their live performances. They come over like gays, except for Chester. Now dont be mad at my post, but Im telling you how I feel about DBS. Amazing music, but really really too sad lyrics and clothes and make up etc. And I really cant stand emo's. Sorry guys. haha made me laughbut yeah those lyrics are awful, seriously Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/2693-chester-vs-ny-times-rolling-stone/#findComment-41684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
auburntiger Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 It reads as if CB is being typecast for his work with LP. Rather sad, at that. I read about LP being "hip hop" on the NYT article. WTF? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/2693-chester-vs-ny-times-rolling-stone/#findComment-41685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragondust Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 WTF...do you guys really think that 35 year old people don't feel sad...depressed???? It should never be about what a band looks like but about how the music makes you feel. I so hate the word emo ...they say that about everything. I feel the music helps people ....whatever age....get through difficult things....get through life. I really liked this album a lot....probably my favorite ever. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/2693-chester-vs-ny-times-rolling-stone/#findComment-41686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiman Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Any critic who comments on something being emo should be fired, seriously. That's a prepubescent insult. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/2693-chester-vs-ny-times-rolling-stone/#findComment-41687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraDoN Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 WTF...do you guys really think that 35 year old people don't feel sad...depressed???? It should never be about what a band looks like but about how the music makes you feel. I so hate the word emo ...they say that about everything. I feel the music helps people ....whatever age....get through difficult things....get through life. I really liked this album a lot....probably my favorite ever.no one is saying he's not allowed to be sad and what ever its just the way he expresses himself. Its very bad at times. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/2693-chester-vs-ny-times-rolling-stone/#findComment-41688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kruspe Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 (edited) Any critic who comments on something being emo should be fired, seriously. That's a prepubescent insult. Why? Because they laugh about people with tight black jeans and guys with mascara and women-haircuts? No they are right. They should be shaming themselves for performing like this. But as I said, thats my opinion, and I really love their music except for the lyrics. Oh, and I dont say 35 year old people cant be sad. I only said that stuff like I wanna cut trough my skin is for 12 year olds. Comon man, stop embarrassing yourself Amir and Ryan and the ladies on the other instruments. Edited October 14, 2009 by Kruspe Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/2693-chester-vs-ny-times-rolling-stone/#findComment-41691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragondust Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 no one is saying he's not allowed to be sad and what ever its just the way he expresses himself. Its very bad at times. then why are you even here are you a fan or what? How can you say he expresses himself poorly? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/2693-chester-vs-ny-times-rolling-stone/#findComment-41692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kruspe Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 then why are you even here are you a fan or what? How can you say he expresses himself poorly? Just in DBS (alright, and in No More Sorrow haha) Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/2693-chester-vs-ny-times-rolling-stone/#findComment-41693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HybridThe0ry97 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Ouch.... Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/2693-chester-vs-ny-times-rolling-stone/#findComment-41695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaiNt Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 It's not like LP is notorious for their lyrics except Hands Held High Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/2693-chester-vs-ny-times-rolling-stone/#findComment-41696 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mvaug002 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 seems to me like the writers of those reviews had a pre determined idea about chester before they even wrote the review. they are obviously oblivious to the actual album. who cares what they think. thats what i say lol Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/2693-chester-vs-ny-times-rolling-stone/#findComment-41697 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragondust Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 seems to me like the writers of those reviews had a pre determined idea about chester before they even wrote the review. they are obviously oblivious to the actual album. who cares what they think. thats what i say lol agreed ...some people are to close minded. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/2693-chester-vs-ny-times-rolling-stone/#findComment-41698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarathonMan Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I wonder if the comment will make Chester feel that he has to go back to the old music. I'm not saying Chester is pressured into doing things or is a puppet or anything, but hey, if it makes him go back to Nu Metal I'll take it. Hmm...I'm starting to sound like a WMG executive or something. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/2693-chester-vs-ny-times-rolling-stone/#findComment-41699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiman Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Why? Because they laugh about people with tight black jeans and guys with mascara and women-haircuts? No they are right. They should be shaming themselves for performing like this. But as I said, thats my opinion, and I really love their music except for the lyrics. Oh, and I dont say 35 year old people cant be sad. I only said that stuff like I wanna cut trough my skin is for 12 year olds. Comon man, stop embarrassing yourself Amir and Ryan and the ladies on the other instruments. Why? Because describing something as emo in a review is as hip as saying "Like OMG that song is totally my fav". and FYI that lyric is a metaphor. The song is about love and has nothing to do with self-injury. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/2693-chester-vs-ny-times-rolling-stone/#findComment-41700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FaiNt Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I wonder if the comment will make Chester feel that he has to go back to the old music. I'm not saying Chester is pressured into doing things or is a puppet or anything, but hey, if it makes him go back to Nu Metal I'll take it. Hmm...I'm starting to sound like a WMG executive or something. Nu-Metal is dead lol. And i don't want him to to go back to that, i certainly want lp to write hardcore music though. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/2693-chester-vs-ny-times-rolling-stone/#findComment-41701 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi_c21 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 dick move on part of the critics...they really burned em. I dont think I've ever seen reviews that negative. It's really not that big of a deal though, rock albums get shat on all the time. Some of my favorite recent albums (Dear Agony by Breaking Benjamin and Sci-Fi Crimes by Chevelle) got some some crappy reviews and both of those albums (especially sci-fi crimes) were brilliant. I think the same of OOA. I was very, very impressed with the music. It kept me entertained and the more I listen to it, the more I like it. Kind of the way M2M did for me. Krupe, I think you're right on some aspects of the music but I dont get why we have to bash on emo or scene people here... i respect your opinions and youre entitled to them but this is an LP forum and it should probably kept within those lines...I think everyone can agree with that here. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/2693-chester-vs-ny-times-rolling-stone/#findComment-41703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aiman Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 I wonder if the comment will make Chester feel that he has to go back to the old music. I'm not saying Chester is pressured into doing things or is a puppet or anything, but hey, if it makes him go back to Nu Metal I'll take it. Hmm...I'm starting to sound like a WMG executive or something. That's the definition of a sellout. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/2693-chester-vs-ny-times-rolling-stone/#findComment-41705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragondust Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 dick move on part of the critics...they really burned em. I dont think I've ever seen reviews that negative. It's really not that big of a deal though, rock albums get shat on all the time. Some of my favorite recent albums (Dear Agony by Breaking Benjamin and Sci-Fi Crimes by Chevelle) got some some crappy reviews and both of those albums (especially sci-fi crimes) were brilliant. I think the same of OOA. I was very, very impressed with the music. It kept me entertained and the more I listen to it, the more I like it. Kind of the way M2M did for me. Krupe, I think you're right on some aspects of the music but I dont get why we have to bash on emo or scene people here... i respect your opinions and youre entitled to them but this is an LP forum and it should probably kept within those lines...I think everyone can agree with that here. I never agree with what critics have to say anyway. I think they tend to hate everything most the time. I really liked Dear Agony as well. as far as emo goes I think most people have a warped sense of what it means literally saying everything is emo even if it's slightly sad and it's really aggravating..and you're right there's no point in bashing them. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/2693-chester-vs-ny-times-rolling-stone/#findComment-41706 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarathonMan Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 That's the definition of a sellout. Yea I know. I was trying to lighten the mood with my sarcasm. I failed though. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/2693-chester-vs-ny-times-rolling-stone/#findComment-41707 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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