SuperAgentAlex Posted July 3 Posted July 3 Really disappointing this turned out the way it did, really hope she releases the full tape at some point. The brief bit of Deftest we have is sick and the archivist in me is bothered that we don't have the full thing online. Quote
LPLStaff Posted July 3 Posted July 3 Bothers us too, and every time we try to make some progress on ti we hit a dead end. We'll convene with @SerioDrew and see if we can think of anything else. Quote
NJPLP Posted July 4 Posted July 4 17 hours ago, LPLStaff said: Bothers us too, and every time we try to make some progress on ti we hit a dead end. We'll convene with @SerioDrew and see if we can think of anything else. I haven't mentioned it yet, but now that you've brought it up, someone commented on my YouTube video of the fixed version of "Deftest" a couple weeks ago, saying this: Quote my cousin have the full song along with the 4 tracks EP and the a 2 track demo tapes and also 2 singles tracks cassettes he have : 4 tracks EP Rhinestone Reading My Eyes Fuse Stick N Move Dialate & Deftest (2 tracks cassette) Unknown Song 1 and a Xero song with Mark and a bit of Mike that's sound like She Couldn't. my cousin also told me that at his mom's house he have other stuff with in total more than 16 Xero songs. I replied back to him if it's legit and if there's proof. He replied back with this: Quote i can't show you, i don't have any rigthts and i don't wanna have trouble with Linkin Park. I replied back to that comment asking if he has a Discord and never responded back to me, so, unfortunately, I guess that's a dead end, as well, unless you guys can try to ask him about, somehow. He could be lying, too, for all we know. Quote
Chris Posted July 4 Posted July 4 9 hours ago, NJPLP said: I haven't mentioned it yet, but now that you've brought it up, someone commented on my YouTube video of the fixed version of "Deftest" a couple weeks ago, saying this: I replied back to him if it's legit and if there's proof. He replied back with this: I replied back to that comment asking if he has a Discord and never responded back to me, so, unfortunately, I guess that's a dead end, as well, unless you guys can try to ask him about, somehow. He could be lying, too, for all we know. That feels a bit too convenient to me personally... Also didn't Mike say that "She Couldn't" was written from scratch when Chester joined the band, or something to that effect? Aside from the scratch sample not existing prior to 1999, obviously. Quote
RayGun4200 Posted July 4 Posted July 4 (edited) 11 hours ago, NJPLP said: He could be lying, too, for all we know. I d k man sounds like cap to me, can't really believe it unless there's genuine proof of it, Xero stuff is really rare, for example Jeff Blue and the Band itself has all the stuff, like there's a few people that got some stuff thats either from auditioning for Xero back then or being with the records labels back then. So the odds are really low that someone has different cassettes or EPs etc. Edited July 4 by RayGun4200 Quote
xxHybridXeroxx Posted July 4 Posted July 4 11 hours ago, NJPLP said: He could be lying, too, for all we know. Idk man, all that sounds waaaay too good to be true, if he provides no proof then he is more than likely lying. Quote
mrfox Posted July 5 Posted July 5 On 7/4/2025 at 6:35 AM, NJPLP said: i can't show you, i don't have any rigthts and i don't wanna have trouble with Linkin Park lol, classic troll or that he doesn't know torrents? tf trouble with linkin park 😭 Quote
SuperAgentAlex Posted July 29 Posted July 29 On 7/3/2025 at 6:55 AM, LPLStaff said: Bothers us too, and every time we try to make some progress on ti we hit a dead end. We'll convene with @SerioDrew and see if we can think of anything else. hopefully we as a community can get something going. Both Dave Garrett and Jeff Blue have it too but they doesn't seem too keen on releasing it, so dead ends there. anything new come up in the past 26 days? Quote
SuperAgentAlex Posted July 29 Posted July 29 On 7/4/2025 at 9:44 AM, Chris said: That feels a bit too convenient to me personally... Also didn't Mike say that "She Couldn't" was written from scratch when Chester joined the band, or something to that effect? Aside from the scratch sample not existing prior to 1999, obviously. They could be talking about Pictureboard too Quote
thigolpbr Posted July 30 Posted July 30 Last week, I liked a post by Jeff about Linkin Park and I said, "I hope someday you can share the demos you have." He liked it and replied, "I hope so too." I think if he shares them, he could get in trouble with the Warner From what everyone has noticed, Linkin Park is in such a good phase, I don't see any problem with giving permission to release this demo, or simply with the band/warner creating a web page like "Linkin Park Vault" where fans can buy these demos that weren't released on the HT20 and M20 box sets, as well as audio and video shows. The band/Warner probably has all of this already digitized. I've already mentioned this idea that I've always thought about here on the forum in some posts. This idea could be taken to someone from the band/Warner for discussion. This won't harm the band's new phase in any way. Everything that comes out of old Linkin Park is always a moment of joy, just like the release of Pinkpop 2007 (on YouTube), the demo of Deftest (which thousands of fans want to hear), among others... The band will profit from this by selling these items online, and fans will finally be able to hear these demos we've never heard before and see great shows that weren't released on the two box set...I hope someone who works with the band reads this post and takes this idea forward... Quote
SuperAgentAlex Posted July 30 Posted July 30 4 hours ago, thigolpbr said: Last week, I liked a post by Jeff about Linkin Park and I said, "I hope someday you can share the demos you have." He liked it and replied, "I hope so too." I think if he shares them, he could get in trouble with the Warner From what everyone has noticed, Linkin Park is in such a good phase, I don't see any problem with giving permission to release this demo, or simply with the band/warner creating a web page like "Linkin Park Vault" where fans can buy these demos that weren't released on the HT20 and M20 box sets, as well as audio and video shows. The band/Warner probably has all of this already digitized. I've already mentioned this idea that I've always thought about here on the forum in some posts. This idea could be taken to someone from the band/Warner for discussion. This won't harm the band's new phase in any way. Everything that comes out of old Linkin Park is always a moment of joy, just like the release of Pinkpop 2007 (on YouTube), the demo of Deftest (which thousands of fans want to hear), among others... The band will profit from this by selling these items online, and fans will finally be able to hear these demos we've never heard before and see great shows that weren't released on the two box set...I hope someone who works with the band reads this post and takes this idea forward... As cool as that idea is, anything aside from the unreleased Hybrid Theory demos would need clearance from Mark, which almost definitely isn't happening. Quote
thigolpbr Posted July 30 Posted July 30 4 hours ago, SuperAgentAlex said: As cool as that idea is, anything aside from the unreleased Hybrid Theory demos would need clearance from Mark, which almost definitely isn't happening. But the demos that came out on HT20 didn't have Mark permission? Quote
xxHybridXeroxx Posted July 30 Posted July 30 5 minutes ago, thigolpbr said: But the demos that came out on HT20 didn't have Mark permission? They did. But Mike mentioned Mark begrudgingly did so. Meaning he wasn’t too happy about it Quote
thigolpbr Posted July 30 Posted July 30 2 minutes ago, xxHybridXeroxx said: They did. But Mike mentioned Mark begrudgingly did so. Meaning he wasn’t too happy about it I think everything is negotiable. just like what happened in HT20. Quote
SuperAgentAlex Posted July 31 Posted July 31 8 hours ago, thigolpbr said: I think everything is negotiable. just like what happened in HT20. I would say it's highly unlikely anything older than 1999 ever gets released officially. Mike said it himself in his own Discord server: Quote
thigolpbr Posted July 31 Posted July 31 4 hours ago, SuperAgentAlex said: I would say it's highly unlikely anything older than 1999 ever gets released officially. Mike said it himself in his own Discord server: I had forgotten about this post of his 😕 Even so, we have more demos that could be made available/concerts, etc... I'm wondering about HT30th, how will the band celebrate it? Quote
JZLP-Benningstrong Posted July 31 Posted July 31 Sucks that they released an incomplete tape i like Fuse. Quote
SuperAgentAlex Posted August 1 Posted August 1 8 hours ago, JZLP-Benningstrong said: Sucks that they released an incomplete tape i like Fuse. very incomplete too, since Reading My Eyes is the only song that actually came straight off of that tape. Rhinestone is the New Music Sampler version and Stick N Move is the Hybrid Theory version. Quote
misterx92 Posted August 1 Posted August 1 I think they could release the rest of the demos for the 25th anniversary of Hybrid Theory, I have a feeling they'll do something this year Quote
SuperAgentAlex Posted August 2 Posted August 2 1 hour ago, misterx92 said: I think they could release the rest of the demos for the 25th anniversary of Hybrid Theory, I have a feeling they'll do something this year Never say never but never be too certain. He did say he *probably* won't be releasing more Xero demos so that doesn't completely rule it out, but it's so unlikely he will. I wouldn't count on it. Hybrid Theory demos maybe, there's at least 2 more that haven't been released or leaked anywhere. Quote
NJPLP Posted August 2 Posted August 2 (edited) On 7/31/2025 at 1:55 AM, SuperAgentAlex said: I would say it's highly unlikely anything older than 1999 ever gets released officially. Mike said it himself in his own Discord server: I can’t see the screenshot. Could you upload it elsewhere, perhaps? Also, since it’s highly unlikely anything older than 1999 will ever get released officially, maybe the band wouldn’t really care if Dave Garrett and Jeff Blue share the Xero demos (at the very least). I mean, Mike didn’t really care too much with the Xero A&R tape, from what I can remember. I remembered something about as long as it wasn’t under the Linkin Park name, it wasn’t a problem, or something like that. I could be misremembering that part. Edited August 2 by NJPLP Quote
SuperAgentAlex Posted August 2 Posted August 2 4 minutes ago, NJPLP said: I can’t see the screenshot. Could you upload it elsewhere, perhaps? Also, since it’s highly unlikely anything older than 1999 will ever get released officially, maybe the band wouldn’t care if Dave Garrett and Jeff Blue share the Xero demos (at the very least). I'm not up to the task of finding another image hosting site, but in the image, Discord user Kerophy asks Mike Shinoda on his official Discord server if the band will ever "release Deftest and Fuse outside of demo tapes" to which he responds that that he will "probably not release any more Xero demos" As for your second point, the band probably wouldn't care. In the case of the LABEL however, Jeff Blue could definitely get in a lot of trouble if he lets any of them leak. Dave Garrett could probably either release them himself or give them to someone else with no repercussions, since he's not been connected with the music industry in decades. Probably wouldn't even bother Mike as long as he asks first, whenever they meet again. Mike actually does pop in the server every once in a while so maybe one of us can ask him about Dave and whether or not he can share the stuff he's got in his collection. Here's a photo of them hanging out just last year: https://linkinpedia.com/wiki/Relative_Degree#/media/File:Dave_Garrett_Mike_Shinoda.jpg Quote
SuperAgentAlex Posted August 2 Posted August 2 *to clarify my point about Jeff Blue, he's a big record exec. lots at stake there. Quote
thigolpbr Posted August 2 Posted August 2 58 minutes ago, SuperAgentAlex said: I'm not up to the task of finding another image hosting site, but in the image, Discord user Kerophy asks Mike Shinoda on his official Discord server if the band will ever "release Deftest and Fuse outside of demo tapes" to which he responds that that he will "probably not release any more Xero demos" As for your second point, the band probably wouldn't care. In the case of the LABEL however, Jeff Blue could definitely get in a lot of trouble if he lets any of them leak. Dave Garrett could probably either release them himself or give them to someone else with no repercussions, since he's not been connected with the music industry in decades. Probably wouldn't even bother Mike as long as he asks first, whenever they meet again. Mike actually does pop in the server every once in a while so maybe one of us can ask him about Dave and whether or not he can share the stuff he's got in his collection. Here's a photo of them hanging out just last year: https://linkinpedia.com/wiki/Relative_Degree#/media/File:Dave_Garrett_Mike_Shinoda.jpg I don't follow the discord much, but it would be great if someone could ask him about these demos and also if the band ever plans to create a collection to sell their old shows to fans. Could someone please ask Mike? Quote
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