JZLP-NaughtyNottingham Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 (edited) https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=LvlfkacU99s#t=1333 Thoughts? (If the video doesn't takes you to 22:10 go there) Edited July 11, 2014 by LIИKIИ JŽЁ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw818 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Doesn't play for me. Says an error occurred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geki Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 (edited) Wow, great. I love LIVING THINGS. I knew the band appreciated it too. Edited July 11, 2014 by Geki Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONDREUS240 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Half of the people on the site who say they hate LT are just jumping on the "bandwagon"... if there really even is one. I've never heard anyone give any constructive criticism of the songs other than "They suck", or complaining that they aren't heavy enough :/ I'd take LT over "muh angry teenage feelings boo-hoo" any day B ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JZLP-NaughtyNottingham Posted July 11, 2014 Author Share Posted July 11, 2014 My favorite comment is that Mike realized that LGM and Victimized were stepping stones to get THP- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geki Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 Half of the people on the site who say they hate LT are just jumping on the "bandwagon"... if there really even is one. I've never heard anyone give any constructive criticism of the songs other than "They suck", or complaining that they aren't heavy enough :/ I'd take LT over "muh angry teenage feelings boo-hoo" any day B ) Agreed. I've said that I loved LIVING THINGS since day one and I can honestly say that is true. It's a great album. It is not their BEST album, but it's definitely great. I've noticed that a lot of LP fans will just agree with whatever the popular opinion is. For example, ATS is often praised as the greatest album of all time and I've seen a lot of people over the years just agree with the ''big'' people in the LP community about that. When it first came out, there were a lot of people who hated it, just like with every LP album. Ironically, when LIVING THINGS first came out, if you read some of the comments on LPL/LPA, you can see tons of people saying that they love it and think it might be the best LP album, etc, but now since the popular opinion is that ''LIVING THINGS sucks'', you see a lot of people agreeing with that. I can honestly say that a lot of people do not like me in the LP community because I will say how I feel about anything and have unpopular opinions about a lot of things. For example, Minutes To Midnight is my favorite album and I consider it LP's best work at this point. How many do you see saying that? How many people do you see saying that they enjoyed DBS a lot and that they love LIVING THINGS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw818 Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 (edited) I still can't see how people are saying ATS is so great. What's so special about it? I think it's crap and Living Things is not much better. I do like the album, but not nearly as much as the others. Edited July 11, 2014 by Southpaw818 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geki Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 I still can't see how people are saying ATS is so great. What's so special about it? I think it's crap and Living Things is not much better. I do like the album, but not nearly as much as the others. ATS is great, although it is my least favorite album out of the current 6, I consider all LP music to be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trumtram Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 I can honestly say that a lot of people do not like me in the LP community because I will say how I feel about anything and have unpopular opinions about a lot of things. that's so not true. it's rather your attitude and the way you word your opinion when someone doesn't share yours. it seems to me that you have a very hard time accepting different views. no one bothers which album you like the most. I made a "Living Things Ep" from all the album songs in a new order that flows pretty damn good. half of the album is pretty forgettable to me and it even contains some of their worst songs ever (Burn It Down, In My Remains). then again I'm really enjoying songs that get an indefinitely amount of hate (Lies Greed Misery, Until It Breaks). I was never a big fan of ATS as it contains sections of pure boredom. still it probably was the first more "complex" album for a lot of LP fans in their lives so it opened a door for them to find access to a lot of really great albums which they wouldn't have touched in the first place, so I can understand why many of them cherish it the way they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geki Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 that's so not true. it's rather your attitude and the way you word your opinion when someone doesn't share yours. it seems to me that you have a very hard time accepting different views. no one bothers which album you like the most. I made a "Living Things Ep" from all the album songs in a new order that flows pretty damn good. half of the album is pretty forgettable to me and it even contains some of their worst songs ever (Burn It Down, In My Remains). then again I'm really enjoying songs that get an indefinitely amount of hate (Lies Greed Misery, Until It Breaks). I was never a big fan of ATS as it contains sections of pure boredom. still it probably was the first more "complex" album for a lot of LP fans in their lives so it opened a door for them to find access to a lot of really great albums which they wouldn't have touched in the first place, so I can understand why many of them cherish it the way they do. I couldn't care less about other bands or artists, so ATS may be the the only ''complex'' album I will ever enjoy and I'm ok with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1996_LP Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Nice. Thats quite an interesting interview! LGM & Victimized really are "stepping stones" to many of the songs on THP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelbeats Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 More-so Victimized imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Astat Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 My biggest gripe with Living Things is that a lot of the songs on it sound like they SHOULD be solid rock songs, but the production on the album pushed everything in more of a pop-oriented direction. Just listen to how the guitars on the live version of Lost in the Echo punch you in the face, then compare it to how fizzy and weak they sound on the album. They pushed all the synths and sampled beats to the front of the mix like they did on A Thousand Suns, but Living Things wasn't nearly as progressive of an album, so the songs just came out sounding like generic pop-rock. It reminds me a lot of the production on Chris Cornell's Scream. The songs were mostly good, but Timbaland doesn't know crap about producing a rock record, so that record constantly sounds like it can't decide if it wants to be a rock album or an R&B album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonic Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 (edited) Living Things had video game synth like production. Burn It Down's instrumental might as well be 16 bit. Like Astat said, the album could sound heavier if the guitars were higher in the mix. I guess it was there way of giving the Hybrid Theory/Meteora style of music (aka the first four tracks of the album) a modernized, "fresh" sound. Songs like Roads Untraveled and I'll Be Gone are mixed perfectly having electronics in the forefront but not swallowing them whole. For pun's sake, I guess the guitars got lost in the echo when Linkin Park tried to go down roads untraveled. Also; Lies Greed Misery does not sound like a stepping stone. It's almost all electronic, and even though it has screaming and a chant like chorus, it still reminds of Meteora with it's super overproduction and rap verse/rock chorus/screamed bridge format. Edited July 12, 2014 by Sonic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw818 Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 Lessons from from ATS and LT: "You can't have snobbery in music." (An old LP quote) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spraypaintninkpens Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 I'll never understand the universal hate for LT, and the admiration for ATS within the LP community. To me, it's the other way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geki Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 I'll never understand the universal hate for LT, and the admiration for ATS within the LP community. To me, it's the other way around. I can understand why people admire ATS. I just simply do not understand the hate on LT at all. It's a fucking great album with great song writing and good lyrics. Just because LP went back to writing more normal songs with normal structures, etc, people shit all over it. Honestly though, I feel like ANYTHING the band put out after ATS, people would have shit all over, even THP, just because it simply would have been compared with the almighty ATS. ATS is a good album but god damn, expand your horizons a bit or wake up in reality, this is LINKIN PARK, the same band who wrote In The End, Breaking The Habit, Numb, What I've Done, New Divide, etc, they are a mainstream band who writes pop-rock songs or mainstream hits, it's not gonna be all like ATS was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southpaw818 Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 I can understand why people admire ATS. I just simply do not understand the hate on LT at all. I agree on both parts. ATS is a concept album. Living Things isn't. I can't see how people can adore an album that has one major primary focus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paree Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 LT is my favorite album and i dont care much about other' s opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FearOfTheDuck Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I really liked Living Things when it came out, I just don't think it's got as much depth as, well, any of the other records they've released. A few of the songs feel a bit obvious, the band clearly not pushing themselves. Plus Lies Greed Misery is horrible, which I've said from first hearing it haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkinMark Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I don't like LT and I love ATS. Feel free to hate me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonic Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Who knows, Living Things could be a least favorite or favorite of one of the band members. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sasa95 Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I still think that "Lost In The Echo" is in top 10 LP songs. It's just beautiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paree Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 Lost in the echo is my favorite LP song.Yes there are some bad songs from this album like UIB which is my least favorite lp songs. But it has masterpieces like lost in the echo.Also ill be gone is beautiful. @Ducko LGM rocks live even though studio version is not good. I don't like LT and I love ATS. Feel free to hate me I dont like ATS.Feel free to hate me.Seriously everyone has an opinion and i respect them.Also in top ten websites like the top tens where people vote LT has done well to secure 3rd spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geki Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I've been thinking lately, maybe LT is actually their ''worse'' album, even though they are all A+, IMO. ATS is probably better all around in terms of musically, lyrically, vocally, etc. But I do enjoy LT and all of the songs on the album. It doesn't suck by any means. I've also noticed lately how EDM influenced a lot of the music on LT is, way more ''electronic'' or ''techno'' as some people say, than ATS was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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