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It's also exclusivity, the idea that everyone listens to the LP version and you are one of the few that knows about a demo version gave a 13 y/o me a false sense of superiority.

ITE was pretty popular back in the day. I'm referring to the LP version, not the demo.

Back in my hipster days i only listened to the demo because of how mainstream the song was. Nice to have this remastered and it really sounds great.

I mean both can be overpriced? Value is obviously subjective, I'm sure there were people who thought that the TL box set was decent value, personally I was hoping for some more legit new stuff no one has seen/heard of. That is obviously asking a lot after 20 years since most of the content leaked some way or another by now. It's just that $200 is a lot for polished rehashed content IMO. Not judging you for thinking it's reasonable.

Isn't this a bit of a cash grab? I mean does it add enough value to warrant the price?

Don't mean exactly like this, more tonally. And ironically, the EDM pop garbage that was much of OML was also outdated since that shit went out of favour in 2014-ish.

When they said that they were going for a more poppy sound on OML, this and My December was what I hoped they would gravitate towards. Still have no idea what they were thinking on that record. Really nice to have a good mix of this song.

I'm not a production expert, but it feels like the was produced by Imagine Dragons... sounds so loud and compressed. On the music, nothing feels like it's an improvement on the originals. Some decent songs, but nothing that I want to listen to again. I don't mind the name change of The Down Syndrome, but I always liked the line "... that smile on your face seems it seems happy. Are you happy?". I'm not sure if I read too much into it, but isn't it a reference to down syndrome people? They have this semi-imprinted smile on their face that makes them always look happy.

I'm still baffled by how bad OML was. The direction they took was weird, basically a sound that left the charts 3 years prior, but that's fine if that's what you want to do. The main problem is the output was generic and bland with some of the worst features I've heard in a long time. Those Stormzy bars sounded like something he pulled out of his ass 5 mins before recording and were so out of place. Even though there are a few bright spots, I have not listened to most this album since release and I won't ever again. If you are going to change direction, do so boldly, don't make some generic forgettable excuse of an album.

actually liked quite a few of their songs back in the day, will def check this out. will be nice to hear some OG Chester and forget the awfulness that was One More Light

haven't listened to OML since it's release given how bad the album was on my first listen, gave it another go to see if anything has changed. good grief is it a bad album, I actually thought that THP was pretty damn decent barring a few tracks and that the band was moving in a decent direction... but hot damn OML is really bad. The main issue with a sound change is that you alienate a large portion of your 'old' fans in search of new ones. LP's sound change was gradual, all the albums after Meteora felt like a mixture of old and different, but OML was the fist album where they went all out different. I was actually quite excited when they were talking about a more pop-like record as i like their slower songs, but what i got was some EDM/pop/rap fusion that sounds like garbage top40 overproduced trash. I just can't understand how these veterans, especially with how talented Mike is, could not muster anything more interesting and unique than this...

sucks being honest on a forum full of fanboys. claiming a review is subjective is the same as saying the review is biased. subjectivity has no place in reviews as it allows personal views to dictate the direction of your conclusion. Taste is subjective, and sure some subjectivity is allowed when reviewing, but you have to be overwhelmingly objective when your review is not just personal. Based on reviews for OML, the vast majority consensus is that it's not a very good album. average at best. it's one of their worst reviewed album to date, i'm sorry that this seems to be hard to digest for some of you but facts are facts. if we do not critically evaluate what we consume, we are no better than sheep.

Making something that has personal significance or sentimental value doesn't make it immune to criticism. Should we just hand every album a gold star because doing otherwise could hurt the artist's feelings? OML wasn't a very good album, regardless of whether you enjoyed it or not. That's just a fact.

i ain't judging, obviously you got to be facing some heavy shit to go that far, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a very selfish act

i know depression is a beast as my dad has been suffering from clinical depression for the better part of 4 decades, but this is such a selfish thing to do... the guy has 6 kids, some of them still very young. Suicide's biggest impact is on the ones the remain, not the person committing it.

More like 40%-50%, quite a few people on here need to make peace with the fact that objectively, this is a below average record. The fact that they enjoy it is subjective and absolutely fine, but that doesn't change the before mentioned fact.

The album is their worst album by some margin if you look at reviews, which isn't everything, obviously. I do however agree with them in this instance, metacritic score stands at 43% which I think is decently accurate. It's just bland and forgettable for the most part.

Love all these people that are saying that the album's commercial performance equates to it being a good album...

The album is pretty much like the singles and released songs. On the lyrics, there are quite a bit of corny bits on this album, like staple pop "terms" like 'sky is falling' 'fall wide awake' ect... I really laugh at their story about best lyrical album. Overall, I won't listen to this again probably, which is a shame as them doing pop appeals to me as I have grown out of their nu-metal stuff. This is just not the type of pop i can stomach. It's just so average and generic. I might be completely wrong, but One More Light reminds me a lot of TLTGYA lyrically and musically. OML feels kind of smug to me though, "Oh look at me so caring while no one else is". Might just be me though.

The problem with LP changing their sound is that they seem to have no direction, their last few albums have been all over the place with regards to their feel/sound. There have been many artists/bands that made fairly drastic changes to their sound over the years/decades that felt natural and came off pretty damn good. LP is not in that group. They seem to have reached where they wanted to go all along: pop. I have no problem with this, it just sounds so bland and unimaginative. I actually wish that some studio exec held a gun to their heads when they made this because if this was all them then it's pretty disappointing. I mean they have never been geniuses, but this is a new low.

Yeah, but with LP of old you could hear that it's a LP song without even hearing any lyrics. There was no way of confusing a LP song with a LB or Korn song. LP always carried with them a bit of that, their LP DNA was in the music even if it was less so later on. This album has none of it, if Chester or Mike isn't singing there is 0 way of telling it's an LP record. RHCP changed their sound many times and yet you can always hear that distinct DNA that makes it a peppers song. Even if it's not as apparent as it was at the start. You are free like like the new LP album, but so far it is generic and forgettable, as much as you hate hearing it.

These songs are def not unique nor does it have a LP feel to it. You are free to like them, but IMO, unique does not automatically mean good. These songs are so generic, any top 40 pop band could cover these and it would fit right in with them. I just wish they approached pop differently to the way they did, which is generic and forgettable.

I haven't listened to the live songs yet, but everything released so far has been

True, it might be subjective. I do disagree that LP innovated though, they took something that existed (Korn was already well known) and made it radio friendly enough to sell it to the masses, something that wasn't really achieved to the level that LP did. Their later works are far from innovative. I mean i really enjoy old LP and many of their later songs, but personally I don't see any big innovations nor bursts of talent.

Groundbreaking might have been too strong a word, but the generic stuff they are putting out now isn't going to do anything. And I'm not hating on them, just stating a fact, they are not very talented