bloodbath

Are we entirely sure that he's gonna release some demos?

Any thoughts about creating another version? Why could that be?

That was very strange, indeed. I mean they released later on the Australian tour 2007, there wasn't any reason not to release those shows, but we will never know for sure. If someone asks Mike he'd say something like: I don't remember, It wasn't my thing, go ask somebody else

Then, I have another question for you. Out of curiosity? Do you think that Collision Course is the best and worst planned release in band's history? The best: LP is the biggest band in the world in 2004 The worst: Too much going on in the band that year and a burnt out band in 2005, wasting an opportunity to properly promote the EP

Not a big fan of vinyl thanks to things like this.

-Rock am Ring 2007 -Any other show with Faint as show closer -I could care less about the rest, I'm gonna enjoy it anyway

Maybe it's my fault for underappreciate that EP. For me it's like "yeah, that was cool, let's move on", and the band also didn't paid too much attention over the years. But now you said that, it makes sense, Jay Z is one of the biggest artist in the world and the impact of Collision Course was even more massive on casual fans rather than the hardcore fanbase

Really? I would go with the ATS era, but it's great to see someone pointing out something truly positive from the LT era

P5hng me A*wy. At least those are the lyrics I could relate to best

I have mixed feelings with RTR, objectively the show is top tier, one of the best of that era, but having those songs cut and disorganized as hidden tracks, can't stand it man. I'd have included all songs until What I've Done in the CD and the last encore in that hypothetical LPU8 or at the New Divide single PS: I love Collision Course but that wasn't the time for it so yeah, I would have kept the original setlist.

Wow! Great topic, I've never join the pieces of the puzzle like you did. Although I love the early LPU format (2002/2006) I also think that, this hypothetical tracklist would have also generated some controversy because of the DSP tracks. I wouldn't have minded if they continued to release live tracks along with demos as long as those tracks were like the ones in LPU2, 4 and 6. Specially in later CDs, were in my opinion some of the tracks weren't very interesting at all, they just put them for the sake of filling up.

The 15 anniversary thing is just the current trend of many artist in streaming services, they release a digital only deluxe edition with shitload of tracks just to duplicate numbers on certain tracks and therefore more money

The album was horrible, but people took it to personal level. I mean, people throwing stuff and spitting at the show... What the fuck are you even doing there? Obviously that didn't cause that Chester killed himself, but for sure made his last days on Earth a little bit harder.

We've never know if the OML legacy would have been different if 2017 events didn't happen

Putting aside personal tastes, because we're ALL thinking "How this magnificent song can be listed so below????", The results are nothing short of unsurprising. That period from 2000-2007 was HUGE for them in terms of popularity.

It was different, not what I was expecting for sure

So, regarding to LIT audios we have: The original DVD version The original CD + DVD tracks added in 2023 with dialogues cut The LPU3 outtakes with slight differences Kinda messy if you ask me

Hi! Question regarding the Jimmy Kimmel 03 show, since we are on the Meteora mood. The enhanced videos from the LPU3 CD (Don't Stay and Faint) are taken from the Internal VHS source? I briefly compared both videos this evening, and the "official material" seemed badly compressed to fit into the CD. A downgrade from the original video. Pd: how poorly have aged those enhanced CDs

3 DVDs seems excessive to me. Tokyo 2006 is way more MTM, we just can wish it's on the next box set. The Roxy, making of and Live 8 fit on a DVD. I even include the LPU5 tracks (remastered, obv) as bonus tracks on the main CD.

Great topic! Let me add my suggestions B-Sides rarities: The DSP tracks goes off. I've always think that why I would want a couple of tracks on the CD if I have the full show in digital with the same quality? DVDs: Fuck it, the MSG 11 is a MUST. I'll also add the iTunes show with the best quality and the Red Square. Also, a show with a rare setlist. Since you proposed the first show of the tour, I go with the last one. Vinyls: I don't care, honestly, Madrid would be cool.

MTM is to LP what The River is to Springsteen. A period full of creativity. We could have 2cds of fully finished songs with vocals and a few instrumentals. Not all of them are gonna be great but...

Indeed, they have 4 years to face a huge problem. I assume they can cut all the rehearsal tracks and the live B-Sides that were taken from the DSPs, but yeah, even the LPU stuff doesn't even fit into a single CD. I'd leave out the LPU5, since that's pure CC era, the LPU7 because it was an obvious cashgrab, but then we go into the tricky stuff. You can't create a live Rarities 2006/2008 like in this Meteora 20 since there were barely any live B-Sides (yeah, I'm excluding the DSP) and as I said before, a live CD is limited, but you can't put 3000 vinyls in the box set... It's gonna be a wonderful messy problem

MTM Live Rarities? That's official?

Very slightly different, you really have to pay attention to notice

That's the fucking bible up here. I hated MTM when it came out, but I was just a 16 year old brat. Anyway, the whole cycle was fantastic, it was full of great shows, huge setlists... I just ask for a full show with Faint as a show closer