bloodbath

I'm still thinking that LP themselves aren't the biggest fans of Living Things though

Nah, was just joking but I would have put some of the hardest songs at the end. I'm not a big fan of OML, although I get the selection of songs and makes sense, for me takes out the best points of that tour (which I loved, btw)

Dude! What's wrong with a 27 song setlist? Plus you even cut my favorites from the setlist. You have a new enemy 🤣

If there's two weeks left I hope I have time to donate as soon as I get my paycheck PS: I'm from the opposite part of the world (Spain), would it be any problems with that?

Linkin Park has one of the most precise and meticulous discography, with countless layers of sounds perfectly mixed. I'd like to take those "experts" for a trip to other genres to truly know what's "horribly" mixed

I've been listening the whole HT Tour 2000-02 this year, and dude, I fucking love when they start to banter and giving the f-bombs between songs, specially with the Ozzfest crowds. Gotta love their attitude back then.

Do you imagine that one day we will have setlist of every show ever?

Truly impressive

Having to know how perfectionist Mike (and the LP guys) are, don't be surprised if they're holding it back together for some small reason that probably would me minimal for us but a huge of a deal for him

Next stop, a world tour presenting the 2 bonus tracks

Is it going to be a physical edition?

2007 - Holmdel, great setlist and performance 2008 - Edgefest Toronto. Everybody's is going to choose with the MSG show, but I'll go with that "acoustic" way to start up the show 2009 - Hard to say, same setlist, shows were cool but nothing out of the ordinary, I'd say Portimao. 2010 - Berlin. I usually choose shows with uncommon setlist, but the Bleed it Out/Burning in the Skies section has something really special. I always come back to it 2011 - MSG is one of my All Time Favourites, but since the DSP pales in comparison with the TV broadcast, and I love to go against the grain, I'll stick with Singapore. Killer way to end a tour. 2012 - Mountain View, although it could be any show with that encore of Faint, LFY/Papercut and OSC

I think you nailed it. The 2018/19 tour, like it or not was "limited" in terms of LP material. You know they can only play certain songs. But with more guest you open the door to have the a wider catalog. It will be cool to see... If it finally happens, of course

Tough question. This can go both ways, being impartial and select shows that the band played great even though you don't like the setlist, or an average show with a setlist that you love. I need to have a thought...

Maybe they were trying to archieve that deceiving scheme of "happy music with sad lyrics", which was a trend in the early/mid '10s (even Paramore released After Laughter, which Mike said he really liked). A dark sounding pop album would have been great, absolutely. But the problem with OML is, for me, that for the first time, the music sounds generic. Whatever genre LP played, they left a imprint on it. This time wasn't the case.

Just a lines of coke for fun, nothing wrong with that. A LP show must be pretty stressful, very tight and professional, so a Fort Minor show must have been his chance to laid off a little bit

I think that Brad was making a reference of just including those two additional songs doesn't make an anniversary edition, making references to the 15th anniversary edition. But I think for a proper boxset, why not including them? Why I do see a waste of space is including DSP tracks on physical CDs. Why do I want a couple of tracks when I can get the whole show? BUT they should liberate all the DSPs from that era for a broader audience (yes, including the European Summer Tour 08)

Wasn't cigarettes making fun of the gangsta rap?

Do you guys imagine that the song is released and turns up being a big enormous pile of shit? What a wild assumption!!

Same here, the SOD feud saga it's too confusing and hard to follow

Glad I'm not the only one that thinks that MS without SOB is just... MS. How many times has Mike cut off Ryu at the last minute?

Great insights both of you. It's curious to see how a twisted mind like Chester's works. How "common" traumas like abandonment issues, relationship problems... takes him to a whole different level and makes him act so erratic for years. Like Paranoid says, that was the culmination of a very rough life. Speculating gives us some comfort to try to get the pieces of what happened, but the truth is we will never know. It's impossible to fit the pieces and see the Warning signs because Chester's mind was like playing a game but each game the rules completely change. As for the people who blame Talinda, they've never been in a serious relationship in their entire life's and they don't know what it mean to reach your tipping point. They say never meet your heroes, so for those who throw shit at her... Do you really want to be around Chester 24/7 during one of his bad days? Really? Because something tells me that you'll be burning your Linkin Park CDs after that. The only good outcome is that the band and their family, are moving forward. It's healthy and they deserve it.

Well, sorry about the wrong shots, I was getting on my nerves

We've all done awful stuff that we're not proud of in our past. More so If you were an alcoholic. I have the same age as you and it is now when I understand a lot of the lyrics that before were completely irrelevant, not only LP but many other bands with introspective lyrics. Don't take as an personal attack, but people took too seriously the new OML sound, like their lifes depended on it. Truth is, now matter the band means to you, your life is going to be the same even though LP would have released the best record in the world (that's why I hate the whole "X band saved my life", no, you saved yourself, give some credit). Being myself an asshole, I still figuring out what takes to a person to pay 200€ for a festival ticket to throw some shit to an artist, just because they're playing a couple of tracks they dislike. No, Chester didn't commit suicide just because some cunts decided to act like the band have just raped and killed their entire family. What changed that time is that he was at his lowest point. He's the most recognizable figure of a band that has been loved/hated since 2000. He tried to kill himself back in 2005, and there was no album factor during that time. What's really funny now is how suddenly everyone is seeing his cries for help in every album. Their closest family and friends couldn't predict what he would do, but you, reading a bunch of lyrics and didn't truly knowing the person, could.

Whatever Jeff, you're great, the band are a bunch of cunts. You won.