Justin

Agreed.. Krwlng still moves me. I think this will be ok. It's not HORRIBLE. It's not amazing either though.

I don't think that they're sellouts, I just think they have this weird thing where they feel they must PROVE that they can do anything. It's like "You think HT and Meteora were good? Check out this alternative rock album. Think that was good? Check out this electronic-driven "experience". Think that was good? Check this out: it's like everything in one. Think we're out of genres? Check out this EDM collab." It's like WE GET IT YOU'RE A VERSATILE BAND. I like all the albums but I don't understand where that attitude comes from. I remember reading a thread here asking if they will be forgotten if they were to call it a day. I think at this rate, yes. They're becoming a "jack of all trades master of none" type band. Not everyone is like us. Some people probably love their older stuff, and turn their noses up at Iridescent and WID. The reverse is probably also true. They have not made a mark in music and stuck it out. They could have, if they stayed on the path they were on with Meteora. But they thought "fuck that we're not being labeled!". In doing that, they pushed away a lot of people and gained some others who didn't like them before. It's like they're ditching and gaining fans with each album (besides the hardcore fans who stick with them). I'm not saying they shouldnt have grown. i just think it feels a little forced sometimes. I think MTM sounds like more of a natural progression of their sound then ATS. I also remember them saying they had ideas they delibirately junked because it was too "Linkin Park-ish" while simaltaneously saying they "write whatever they want". I NEVER understood that. I'm a fan and I always will be, I just don't like the idea that they are forcing these style changes. I'm really sorry to rant guys... I just wanted to vent a little bit.

Who needs Powerless or any set list variety when you have this? By the way look on the right, he looks really happy. Lol!!

Geki, I know what you mean. It's like the changes are SO huge from record to record its like they WANT to alienate fans. I haven't heard about them acting like dicks at meet and greets though... I've been an LP fan since I was 9, and one thing (besides their music) I've always admired about them is their personalities. It would really suck to see that it's changing..

I asked the question a while ago about how much of the set is a band decision, when Joe wanted to play W&K but said he doesn't control those things. Then there was the LPTV episode where Mike asked if it was ok to drop the Medley for OSC. I wonder if they got in any hot water over dropping ITE last minute a while back? Also has Brad ever actually said he doesn't like the older material anymore? (Or doesn't want to play it as much)

I have a feeling the studio version is going to be really incredible. They could realease this to radio. I'm not sure of the technical name for what it is, but did anybody else hear the synth-harmonizer-voices underneath Chester at the end of the first chorus?

More than likely that's what it is, that would make sense

Now THAT'S an idea

Good point. He probably doesn't. I think vocally he probably just wanted to rap and do background vox originally (pre-MTM). I know So Far Away contradicts me, but still. His voice does have potential though if NRL can tell us anything. Oh well

If the credits are the "exclusive in-game item" to be unlocked then I wouldn't even know what to say.

I wonder if they had the same idea when they decided it would close the album MTM, because of the length compared to the other song. I always thought that song could have been a couple minutes shorter. I like the song, and it will always have strong sentimental value to me because of the inspiration behind it, but I haven't listened to the whole song through...probably in a couple years now. Including when I watch RTR. lol

Forgot about that one. Thanks Side note about NRL: It always amazed me how he could sing amazingly on that song, and yet his SINGING voice live is not that great. He's not a "bad" singer live (obviously...and I don't mean anything bad by this, M.S. is my favorite artist of all time), but when he sung even NRL live (over the BIO bridge) I was slightly disappointed. Then again, we were just discussing PMA from Texas, and there he sounded nice singing Stephen Richards' part. I don't know, maybe I'm just crazy.

Would be nice if it was ALTNC studio version. lol

This is kind of two questions in one, both about No Roads Left. Does Chester have ANY vocals in the final version of this song? I know Mike said Chester told him "Don't even use my vocal" but it made me curious. Secondly, if it is all Mike, is this the only non-instrumental/non-interlude song in their studio discography that Chester isn't featured on in any way?

I just watched Live in Texas yesterday specifically for that song.

Yes the scratch intro is the 2012 intro.

I was hoping I could find it somewhere HQ without downloading the whole DSP. My computer is kinda...broke. lol I will work it out though. I've been wanting to hear that.

Oh... lol that's random. Makes me wonder if the Mardi Gras mix was ever meant to be more than just a drum solo and sing-along. One more: anyone know where I can find a good recording of Mike singing Umbrella in Manchester? I know he sung it in London on January 28, 2008, and there's a DSP recording of that. BUT, I know he sung it again in Manchester the next month, and he actually remembered the lyrics and sung it better. Can't find anything on that besides a cell phone recording from the audience..

30 minute acoustic set

What is the "Mardi Gras mix" in the BIO bridge live? I could not find a video of it. Being from New Orleans it makes me curious. EDIT: Just found a video with a full 2008 show listed as having the Mardi Gras mix but it was basically the same as the Road to Revolution version except RME was also over the bridge. Basically my question is, where does the Mardi Gras name come from? Lol

The live guide for FM shows says that FM performed a "shortened" version of Numb/Encore. Was wondering what part of the song they actually did. EDIT: Should have asked this in the Live Talk question thread, sorry.

I don't get why people would be pissed off about ANY collab. Especially if it's non-album. Literally...Chester could say tomorrow that he did a duet with Justin Bieber and I would probably hate it but I wouldn't go out of my way to bash it. I would just say "wow, this sucks" and not listen to it again. If it's non-album, I just chalk it up to the guys wanting to explore all areas of music without including it on studio albums. It would be different if LP announced their new album and said they were doing EDM collabs with Aoki on it. Just like "We Made It". LP isn't going to do a hip-hop song featuring Busta Rhymes on a studio album. So therefore it's like...if you hate it, it's easy to avoid. If you love it, it's out there. That's kinda how this is to me. I'm actually glad they're doing this, and taking this approach TO doing it.

I was just gonna say literally that they've come a long way with that song from the VGA's to now.

The Catalyst is my least favorite LP song ever released. Idk why. This is just my opinion though, I know a lot of people love it.

Honestly (at the risk of sounding weird!), when I first joined LPL, I wound up visiting the list of Astat's posts, and I legitimately learned a lot from him about LP and music in general just by reading his posts. I admire the amount of knowledge you have and the way that you explain what you know. Much respect.