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Huge day for the Linkin Park community. Glad to celebrate it all with you!

LPU members can attend this event now. First in person LP event since the Hollywood Bowl, right?

This is unbelievable lol

Shifter is awesome. Totally great vibes from that one.

4 hours ago, GreyFox-AFCA said:

Mike Shinoda, if you ever read this: You are fucking awesome!
Damn i love massive so much.

If LP wants to bring out new music i don't necessarily need it to be as heavy as Massive, but the vocal skills are absolutely there to continue with him alone fronting this masterpiece of a band.
Yes Chester is irreplaceable, that's exactly why LP should go full-on experimenting with this type of shit, instead of finding someone to be the new fronting vocalist.

Find someone with a different kind of vocal style of both Chester and Mike, us him as AIC uses Duvall and write the history from there on out, and take back that place as the number one alternative band (post 2000) on this planet.  

Incredible post!

Now that is a great question. It doesn't look like it is a "band reacts" video, but hopefully they will do one. The HT20 Q&A premiered the Projekt Revolution 2002 show, right?

Linkin Park has announced, "We are celebrating the release of Meteora|20 with a Global Fan Q&A livestream. Become an LP Underground member for your chance to be a part of the live conversation in Los Angeles and we’ll see everyone on the livestream. Submit your questions via video and tune in on April 10th at 11am PT (link in our bio)"

Fans will submit questions via video on the LP Underground and can watch on the Linkin Park YouTube and Facebook as well as on Mike's Twitch channel.

As the announcement says "...with members of Linkin Park", it is possible that this will not be the entire band.

The new Linkin Park Underground, that Linkin Park teased at the end of 2022, has launched today at www.lpunderground.com. There is no exclusive music for this LPU, but the site does come with integration into Discord for the Discord users.

Who has renewed or checked out the new LPU?

Wow now that is a very unique track.

Yeah anything is possible with that song board if we don't know what Serpent and Nocturnal are, and we need song titles for Numb and Nobody's Listening still. And yeah, Lost and Resolution are a part of that discussion too.

Surely there is a different song board photo from somewhere in the process. Maybe in the Meteora|20 book?

A6, Husky, Resolution so far for sure.

At one point on the BBC Radio 1 interview I thought they had taken the same audio of Brad talking to the German girl and used it for that, but that's because he did so many interviews in a row he was using some of the same talking points and words lol

There appears to be some bad blood between LP and Jeff, for their own personal reasons. The band doesn't reflect on the HT sessions as being super friendly/fun... in fact they say it was very stressful etc so that definitely has a lot to do with it. Even by Jeff's own admission they wanted Jeff to stand up for them more to the label and blah blah, in his book he gets into the small details about how the band saw things versus how he saw things.

A6 definitely seems earlier than A-Six and of course A.06 came last. It's very raw so this must be one of the earliest versions that exists. Would like to hear Chester on it one day, he was so familiar with it he even commented on it publicly about the track (saying they used it for Meteora promo in late 2002 in a commercial).

The story about BTH and OML is cool. First time Mike has talked in a very long time about Drawing becoming BTH.

For some of it it was almost like he had read the wiki pages about the songs before talking about them lol

Yeah that is a great point. No one here knows everything, we are in fact wrong all the time about stuff lol. Like, frequently. So let's see when it's released what's going on with the track.

And what about Broken Foot into Healing Foot, are there any similarities whatsoever at all? Surely the band knew when they named it Healing Foot they already had a Broken Foot, though.

Tried to get the rips of the band members talking on Sirius about HT20, as there was important info there. No luck with it from the LP team, but will try again now that this is happening again for Meteora.

Lost. Is. Not. Resolution.

They don't sound similar at all.

Linkin Park has teamed up with SiriusXM to launch a Meteora week on Channel 41 Turbo, which will debut all of the songs from the "Lost Demos" CD, feature stories from the band, and much more!

Who has heard some of the music already?

Mike Shinoda, Brad Delson, and Phoenix catch up with Daniel Carter from BBC Radio 1 with the Meteora|20 release quickly approaching.

Brad: "Lost is actually resonating right now and was made 20 years ago, that really is shocking to me and I am super proud of the album, super proud of the song... changing the name of the song to "Found", ha. And I am just really stoked to talk about the album and this moment we are having. I don't take it for granted, let me just say that."

"I think a lot of the songs are a natural evolution of Hybrid Theory and when I look at the tracklist, I think there is a pivotal song on Meteora where I am like, "Woah, what's that? Where did that come from?" And I think it harkens, it foreshadows what's to come. And that song is Breaking the Habit. That song could not have been on Hybrid Theory. It's in a whole other lane that kind of opened up for us creatively and the other thing that stands out to me dramatically is the visual landscape because the visuals, first and foremost with the music the visuals have never been a secondary part of making music."

Phoenix: "There is always a pressure in any sense on any record. We were just young enough and naïve enough to not even have grasped, in real time, be grasping how big or special or unique what Hybrid Theory was doing... was. We were still, in a way, just doing the same stuff we were doing when it was written, recorded and released. We were just doing it on larger stages. We were still getting on each others' nerves and eating peanut butter and jelly sandwiches and grinding it and that kind of stuff. Even though Hybrid Theory had done great, the short amount of time we'd have at home, we'd get home and we'd still be doing the same silly stuff. In a good way, it just put us in the mindset of, "You know, with Hybrid Theory, we wrote the kind of music we wanted to hear, our bar was that we wanted to love it, and we had that kind of hubris. So that obviously worked, and why wouldn't we do that again?" And it just turned into that thing of, "Well, apparently we know everything, so let's keep doing what worked." Not just copy, but "it worked", so let's do that. It wasn't until the album was just about to come out when we were doing the press about it, just hearing the "pressure" stuff... then my brain went "I've not really dealt with that at all, or come to grips with that at all. Hopefully this does well or this might be our last record." It wasn't until all of you started asking questions that the pressure started to mount."

"In the footage of the live shows, you can see the progression of the band going through the year and a half of playing shows. There is a smaller show, then there is a mid sized show, then there is a stadium sized show. Hopefully you can see the evolution of the setlist and playing it better and gaining our footing on how to grow in that sense of being a live band."

"We didn't start investing in how to do those larger shows until we were in the Meteora era. How do we present the band visually, how does it look/feel, etc. I think there is a big growth in that sense with Meteora. That was when our touring was a huge grind and to be able to do it was a huge blessing. When I look at the schedules of what that looks like on paper, I say "Thank god we did that then, because we would not be able to do it now." It was insane schedule. But hopefully in the process of that, for anybody who is interested, you can see the progression of that through that process."

Mike: "On Meteora we had 20 something songs. I was writing the first demos in the bus on domestic tours for Hybrid Theory that summer in the US. The guys would come in, usually like one at a time, and see what is going on, or "I have an idea", or "Check this thing out" or just listening to things and giving feedback. I'd change things to their request. And then once we got home, we had a really good sense, a handful of things we were building on, these ideas. Specifically, one thing that has come up these days is that Hybrid Theory was intended on being a pretty direct and compact pallet of information. We wanted it to be clear, we wanted to define to people "This is Linkin Park." We were being asked to play headline shows like, "How long can you play? 60 minutes? 90 minutes?" Our record was was like 30 something minutes long. So we could literally play it and that would almost be a headline set. So we were so excited about the idea of doubling the amount of songs we had out there. But in particular, doubling the amount of touchpoints and genre information and things that we can do. So you could take that too far and the second record could be just all new information. Like, it would be "Oh well where did the old sound go at all?" Instead we said, here are the things we can keep and build on. And here and are the things that if we change... let's experiment with making our own loops - we love sampled hip hop, we love the things people are doing in electronic music doing looping and programming. That's how the sound of the intro of "Somewhere I Belong" with Chester playing an acoustic guitar... it was reversed, and I think there is a bit crusher and compressor on there. The main sound was reversed guitar with bit reducer on it. And then "Faint" for example, it was written as a string melody. Then we hired a string group to come play it, then we sampled that. "Nobody's Listening" was a Japanese flute sample we had a guy come play. That's one example of, "We have a new color to put in the palette. And it'll make the record be more interesting. And we identified those things, Meteora began to have its own identity."

Standout moments for you: "I guess the things I think about are how it was a very compressed timeline - writing, recording, mixing and mastering. The writing stage is at the beginning. Our process was much more like a rap group where we were making tracks then putting vocals on the tracks, we were still writing and changing stuff all the way into the mastering stage. The record needed to be delivered by Friday, and we were changing the vocals on "Somewhere I Belong" while it was being mastered to see if we could make it better. We knew the bar was so high and it was a good energy. It was a fun record to make, it was not negative, it was not stressful. I remember asking guys to "stretch", Joe asked me, I had this demo that was intended to be an electronic instrumental track. Like the Meteora version of "Cure for the Itch." And a few guys said but Joe in particular said, "I think this song needs vocals, it's going to be a good song - it could be a good song." I took it home, I had this idea for a song that I had tried a few times and it didn't work out. It popped into my head and I tried it over the top of this thing and it became "Breaking the Habit." A lot of my stuff that I'd write, it would take many many weeks to get to a place where it sounded like the song. This one immediately sounded like the song. This one, I was playing piano and singing. I turned off the track. I started playing the song and I did it - within a few hours it was done. Sometime you tap into something and it's the song. I feel like "In the End" was that way. To some degree "One More Light" was like that. And other songs, like, "Somewhere I Belong" it was a grind to get them where they needed to be. Sometimes I hear the song and that's apparent, I can hear that in "Somewhere I Belong." "Faint" off of Meteora was a bit of a grind to get where it was. "Faint" was not a two steps forward/one step back kind of process, but "Somewhere I Belong" was that process. "Faint" was big step forward, and another big step forward, but it happened over three months. I'd come in with the song and it's like "Oh, what about this, what about this?" And Rob's like, figuring out how the drums should go. And the second he arrived at the thing we were like, "Oh my god the song is so much better now that you added the flavor on the song."

Listen in full here which starts at 41 minutes.

18 minutes ago, IWillWalkAway said:

because it literally has to be a demo of Lost lol. There’s nothing else it could be. Just likely a very early demo of it. Can’t be it’s own song because it was on the Meteora song board for one when the band cut down to 15 songs, which we know all of. Same key and tempo and even the lyrics in Resolution follow somewhat of the final lyrics.

I don't understand why you keep saying this when @LPAAltwireDerek said it is not Lost. He has the songs - we don't.

Vulture has posted a new interview with Mike ahead of the Meteora|20 release this week.

Some highlights:

"Joe Hahn and I used to go to a record store called Fat Beats and buy vinyl. DJs would press unauthorized scratch records with other people’s sounds on it and shit. So when there were DJ battles, you could be scratching something that other people didn’t have, and we would buy those records and use them. So it wasn’t a leap to say, “Oh, at some point I’d love to make a record that I can scratch onstage.” Me and Joe made a single pressing of original sounds and whatever else. There were a couple things on that record that were actually lifted off of other people’s records. We never sold it. It was just for Joe to scratch and give out to friends. I still have a couple copies."
 

"We had met with every label and most of the indies and got turned down by everybody. Then we got Chester, and we were like, “Now we’re going to get signed.” We went and met with everybody again, showcased for everybody, and they all turned us down again. We were doing okay, playing shows for a hundred people in town, but nobody wanted to sign us. We eventually signed a publishing deal with this guy who had signed Limp Bizkit and some other people and he ended up taking a job at Warner, and we went with him as a function of him taking the job. We basically had a development deal, where if it worked out, they put out our record, but if it didn’t work out, they’d just cut us loose. And it worked out."

"The unspoken, sometimes spoken agreement between me and Don Gilmore was that he was in charge of the rock aesthetic. I gave him feedback on it, but he would not give me feedback on the hip-hop that was going on the record. He was like, “Just so we are clear, Mike, you are in charge of making sure the hip-hop is pitch perfect on this thing. I won’t know.” So if I made a beat or Joe made a beat and somebody had criticism and wanted to remove a weird sample or something, we had to have a discussion without Don. At the time we were using really obnoxious samples. If you listened to some of the records we just named, some of the sounds on them are abrasive, and we loved that."

“Massive” and “Healing Foot” also should’ve come out in 2003. There are hits on that demo disc.

"One of those two I think I tried to resurrect during Minutes to Midnight, and again, it was like, “No man, we don’t want to look backward at all.” So this is all about that 2003 moment. There’s a certain level of quality control going on. We want to make sure that when we put something together, it’s thoughtful and we’ve done our best. Is it going to be perfect? No. Is it going to appeal to everybody? Of course not. It never will be."

It's almost unbelievable the release week is finally here. It's been a very long time coming, we've been going wild since December about this release haha

On 3/31/2023 at 4:14 PM, Hybrider said:

Resolution is the demo of Lost.

Why do you keep saying this? lol

2 hours ago, HFL377 said:

Chester's Pictureboard that was on HT20 was the Xero instrumental from 1998 with Chester's vocals recorded in 1999 so it is from 1999, what they are referring to is the version they recorded for the actual Hybrid Theory album in 2000 according to Jeff Blue. They also recorded drums at least for Slip, Stick N Move, and And One during the Hybrid Theory sessions. 

While we don't have that Slip and And One, the Stick N Move on Hybrid Theory 20 is most likely from the NRG sessions in early 2000.