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On 5/19/2023 at 9:08 AM, thigolpbr said:

Mike doesn't care about these demos, so much so that he didn't release them on HT20.

Again - Mike isn't the one calling all of the shots with a Xero song. There are multiple people involved in that process, if someone besides Mike says "no" at any point, then it doesn't happen.

On 5/16/2023 at 6:53 AM, AtticusSanchez said:

I just wanted to share my excitement about the upcoming Grey Daze live performance at 98KUPD FM Radio's U-Fest 2023. As a longtime fan of Grey Daze and their unique sound, I can't wait to see them take the stage and rock the crowd. I've been following Grey Daze since their early days, and it's incredible to see how they've evolved and grown over the years. Their music holds a special place in my heart, and I'm thrilled to have the opportunity to experience it live. U-Fest is always an amazing event, bringing together talented artists and passionate music lovers. It's a great opportunity to connect with fellow fans, share our love for music, and create lasting memories.

Did ChatGPT write this?

Fort Minor seems much more realistic than Collision Course. BUT - they didn't include Collision Course in Meteora|20 like they did with Reanimation on HT20, so anything is possible.

Just putting those live songs out from the start of the Roxy show would be a nice nod by LP. Put it on YouTube and call it a day, at worst. And you don't even have to put the LPJZ stuff out since it's already released.
 

On 5/12/2023 at 6:25 AM, leftshoe18 said:

I don't see how you could even do a "major motion picture" about Linkin Park without the band members involvement. It would be beyond disrespectful.

Hence why you probably don't see the band supporting anything Jeff is doing...

One thing is for sure - if LP made it 2000+, they have the multitracks saved lol

It's still number one 7+ weeks on the charts lol. Crazy. If this was released as a Meteora single it would be known by everyone.

16 hours ago, Ex97 said:

We need Mark and Astat to ask about this but he specific not just DSP’s in general. Because the attitude about DSP’s was just oh we stopped doing them. But we’re talking about shows that were recorded and lost and just not released. They’re definitely on some hard drive or computer or something. Maybe Pooch and Dylan didn’t mix those shows but I feel like they did since we got Australia 2007. If not they could give us the DSP’s unmixed who cares. 
 

This has potential to be the the best LPL exclusive of all time right up there with Camden 04, MFR05, etc. 

The reasons the DSPs were stopped is because the shows weren't selling much anymore. LPL probably directly contributed to that with how much they were shared online for free for years, and torrenting after that (when LPU 9 launched). But the band said multiple times to post the shows for free everywhere - Mike even made an LPU forum thread for that lol. But this will show you the disconnect between the band / fans and the label - ultimately you have to be making money on them no matter how much the band and fans love them being shared. If they aren't selling but 20-30 copies a show then they aren't worth paying Pooch and Dylan to do (at the time). Now, there is an entirely separate topic for how piss poor LP's marketing was for them. RHCP advertised them in emails, at the shows, etc. They should have done an additional add-on when buying tickets on Ticketmaster etc for adding a $10 show recording. Metallica isn't a good comparison because they are so big they will sell a trillion copies of every show, but for LP you need some results. The label could have done much better promoting these to ensure the program would have continued. What we were left with was a random tour they stopped (with no public announcement - we had to reach out privately) when LP was on fire on stage - Vegas -> NZ/Australia 2013 when they had really great setlists. Blah.

NZ/Australia 2007 was mixed in 2009 when they were ready for release. There was a dispute with Warner Australia basically over "if people buy the show recording then it will hurt MTM sales in Australia", which is true, but come on, that's more label BS in general. It got worked out and they were released.

To date, there has never been a valid reason given for the entire 2008 Summer European Tour not being released. No one has ever said anything about that. Pooch is on record multiple times saying they recorded the shows and he wished they could be released, but it wasn't his call.

2007-2012 there were times where venues started wanting fees from local labor unions etc (not super well-versed in this topic) from bands who record their shows. There are lots of Google articles on this - look into it. You'd have to pay off the local union or something to get stuff recorded. How that is even a thing is beyond me but that is why Wantagh one year has no recording released, Mountain View, etc. And sometimes partnerships on shows like MTV (Monterrey 2012) prevent them from being released due to contracts signed. That isn't the standard deal at festivals though so that reason isn't why Europe 2008 wasn't released. But that is why 2012, 2008, 2007 shows were missing. And 2009 too for some shows, probably (not confirmed). I do know for a fact that MSG charges bands $40,000 to record their performances at The Garden. And LP paid that in 2008 (or whatever the 2008 rate was) to get the LP/JZ show out because of how fucking big that moment was. But for example remember we had no Wantagh 2007 (no idea how it got worked out for 2008) recording. It's all super confusing.

What needed to happen was they had someone in charge SPECIFICALLY for the live recordings and in that role you work out every kink and hiccup imaginable so shows can be released. Notice Metallica doesn't have this issue - they release every single damn show they play lol. If they play their instruments on stage, it's released.

19 hours ago, HFL377 said:

Someone asked in the comments of his IG announcement post: "Will we get the demos you mentioned in your book? 😮"

Jeff responded: "yes"

 

Pretty clear cut to me.

I think legally, once you get contacted by Warner or LP after posting this statement publicly if you are Jeff, things become much more complicated than just "I am going to release demos online" lol

Were the cuts off in the original rips of the other shows? Only noticed it on Nottingham which was pretty severely off for the track cuts. What else was off?

12 hours ago, NJPLP said:

Yeah, I guess so. Can't wait to hear the Xero demos of "Dreamer" and "Weight", the Xero demo versions of "Carousel", "Step Up", "Slip", and the 1998 version of "Stick N Move", as well as the Mike Shinoda demo of "Pointillism", along with the Hybrid Theory (band) demos of "Ashes", "Turn To Grey", "Flower", and whatever other unreleased demos/demo version of songs from those eras that he has.

 

Also, he mentioned he would do it over the next few months. Maybe he'll put out the demos and all the stuff in a timely order, and in a specific order, like chronologically by era. Maybe later this month, he'll put out all the stuff from the Xero era that he has, next month he'll put out Hybrid Theory (band) era stuff that he has, and finally, in July, he will put out all the stuff from the early Linkin Park era that he has. That what I was thinking, anyway.

lol

There is no shot Jeff will be allowed to release any demos to fans. Not only would the band themselves not be ok with that, at all, but Mark, who is on those tracks, would be adamantly against that. Mark is pretty high up in the music industry - completely separate from whatever status LP has in the world. Jeff risking his career by leaking a ton of Xero demos? Doesn't seem logical at all.

Not only does Mike not want more Xero out - he had to convince Mark to even agree to put the Xero stuff on HT20. It's very unlikely any more Xero stuff would ever be released.

Would be interested in a Nottingham vinyl rip to see what it sounds like.

On 4/20/2023 at 6:22 AM, martinez said:

 

iTunes.

 

I actually haven't compare it yet if Don't Stay (Live In Texas) is the original CD/DVD one or LPU version. Someone says different things at some point there.

 

Really love that Meteora20 blue logo. I whish I could be there.

It's neither. It's a third edit of it.

Would rather have the raw stuff and we can do what we want with it versus the mega overproduced PR2002 DVD which sounds fake at times and has zero gaps between songs.

Never heard of whoever that person is. That is going to get more streams than the 2002 Mix? Or a Lost demo? Or anything else? lol

17 hours ago, Ex97 said:

Who edited the Work In Progress together? Mark Fiore? Does he still hang with Phoenix and LP? I know the content is from 20 years ago but I’m just curious if he still does. He is a cool guy. 

Fiore did it. He shot the LP event at the Q&A and the Warner event later that day.

1 hour ago, rd1994 said:

Does anybody know what intro is used  at the Seoul show? According to the setlist it’s the Gacela intro, but it’s definitely not!

Which setlist says that? Where? It isn't like that on LPLive or setlistfm.

The intro is a custom one Mike and/or Joe created. It has no known name that we can find. Obviously in their computer it has a name but we don't know what that is. On the physical setlists it doesn't look like they named that intro in 2003, besides "New Intro" on Projekt Rev 2003.

18 hours ago, gorast said:

Finally got my box set today and I've come around on the new format - it definitely has a more deliberate presentation than the "throw all the shit in" style of HT20, more artful in that way. I do miss having individual sleeves for the CDs with unique cover art, though. At least most of the box gets cover artwork through either this or the vinyl box.

There is great cover art here: 

Number 1 in Germany!

Even if there is no physical release of CC20, they should at least celebrate and put the live show on streaming (or, thinking in a fun way, press it to vinyl too). Full Roxy set meaning the songs before Jay-Z and then the take of the LPJZ songs on the CC live DVD. Just toss that out on YouTube or streaming and call it a day.

Yeah but it was also hard to play. Rob injured himself playing some of the THP stuff, they had to drop Rebellion and GATS for a while, right? GATS entirely. Brad had the tape on his arms. It was hard on them. They didn't seem as inspired live for THP.

The LT shows were epic as hell though. 2012-2013 may be their best live era of the 2010s decade. Totally needed a second USA tour in 2013 for LT and a European arena tour. Really, really loved the Honda Civic Tour setlists (WTCFM in an amphitheater was epic). And 2013 in Australia & Asia had amazing sets. Remember Brad absolutely loved LGM live haha

Everything these guys do has some sort of problem or controversy around it lol

Added these to iTunes so fast to listen all week and analyze the show. Thanks everyone. Not going to share these on socials or anything, they'll just stay in here for the few people that want to add them to their collection. Everyone here or who posts on LPLive owns the box set anyway.

Great points about Projekt Revolution 2008. The collaborations with Chris - you can include the Hunger Strike video as a bonus track on the DVD, the one Cornell put on YouTube. LP absolutely can get the rights/permission to do that as they even put Hunger Strike audio on Songs from the Underground (can't forget that for the MTM Live Rarities Disc, again another good nod to Chris). And Crawling will be great to see. It doesn't all have to be the EPIC insane quality stuff - Tokyo 2006, Rock am Ring 2007, and Clarkston 2007 can be your elite quality videos and then put a PR08 show on for good measure and either MSG, KROQ 2007, or Europe summer 2008... or hell, even Europe winter 2008 or Australia 2007. There are so many options.

Again - a situation where you can't lose no matter what you pick. Just Tokyo, Rock am Ring, Clarkston and a random show would make the fanbase go wild.

Love Manila 2004 too. The band is on fire. It's the whole vibe of Seoul and Manila for me. Seoul is the night time production at a huge show for that setlist, we've only seen Live in Texas in the daytime for that setlist. And Manila, same thing with the Rock am Ring daytime show. The lighting and vibes are all there, the band is kicking ass. Could really care less at all about the quality, it's more about the actual show picked. And they picked some elite fucking shows for Meteora 20.

Metallica took the stage when it was still daylight before the sunset because they play so long, Limp Bizkit had a full set before that, and LP had a full set before that. So it was quite early.

It's hard for us to believe that from Mike since So Far Away is so cool and then No Roads Left happened after the Meteora album, so Massive seems so normal. Mike is VERY "meh" about Massive by his comments on Twitch and in person at the Q&A lol