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Pretty odd no Shadow of the Day, if they are indeed done teasing the songs.

Again I ask - did Jeff specifically confirm the exact And One live version has a studio recording? Or did he simply say they recorded And One during the Hybrid Theory sessions? Are we just assuming the live version was recorded? But Fighting Myself wasn't finished, even Mike said they abandoned it. But yes, they are for sure counting it in the 15 when they talk about 15 songs - Lost, Fighting Myself, and More the Victim. Healing Foot as far as we know had no final drums by Rob (unless they just didn't release it on Meteora 20) - why is it not even on the song board at NRG?

What if it's over 19 songs and 14 is something else?

This would be a great LPU CD release one day, since it's a Mike demo without the full band at this point but there is a studio version that exists. Would love to hear it. Just title it "Looking for an Answer (Demo)" and put it out.

It's pretty publicly known Ryan and Amir have been trying for many years to get this stuff released and have hit road blocks every step of the way, even with this release. When the demos leaked Ryan said he was trying to push a demos/vault release through and was getting some opposition about it. If there was no label involvement they'd probably release every single thing they had. They are good acoustically. When/where did Chester say that? We can add it to the wiki. We need some good DBS interviews/quotes to add to the DBS pages. They've tried. This is a label hold-up at this point. They couldn't even put the DBS set on the Julien-K box set from the 2011 show. The Stars of the Season show. They sound absolutely amazing on the two Julien-K songs in that set, what a great idea it was to play Palm Springs Reset, I'll Try Not to Destroy You and The Messenger in that. We need that full show badly.

This is great, wow. The band sounds fantastic at this show and I listen to that Morning After quite a bit. Happy for Ryan and Amir because they have been trying hard since 2017 to get more Dead By Sunrise out there and they've encountered roadblock after roadblock with it. The label just doesn't want to do it is what it sounds like. Talinda getting this over the hump for them is great, and I am positive no one is happier about this release than Ryan and Amir. Finally some DBS progress is being made.

Good news - a Record Store Day release this year includes Dead By Sunrise's Out of Ashes... with Morning After as a bonus track AND the first show of the start of the 2009 era for the band - Las Vegas 2009! This is the show where the band played five songs at the Steve Wyrick Theater with live debuts for Crawl Back In and In the Darkness. Fans may know of this show from the Morning After and Let Down releases over time. Dead By Sunrise sounds quite good acoustically and this is sure to be a collectors item as it is the only release of this set in full. Acoustic setlist: Crawl Back In Walking in Circles In the Darkness Let Down Morning After Who is excited?

Welcome back Wilderness! Yes, as I've said in other threads - people have complained about everything forever. Just how it is. Looking forward to whatever LP announces.

Nothing yet. Unlikely we even get the details other than this was settled out of court. Kyle's claims are mostly BS - either the label/band pays him a little bit of money to go away and sign something saying he'll never come back, or a judge tosses the case or rules in favor of LP. Kyle is suing for songwriter rights on songs - he's very unlikely to get those.

The entire band in general seemed less interested in Meteora 20 than Hybrid Theory 20. Rob was nowhere to be found, for example. Brad and Rob also did not attend the one in-person event they had since 2017. Overall it seemed the interest amongst all 5 was lower than HT20, when they did the full band Q&A and live show premiere online. Loved the Mike, Joe and Dave reaction to San Diego 2001 and had really hoped they would do that for Rock am Ring 2004 for Meteora 20 - what a perfect show to do it for.

Our working theory on Deftest is the auction never sold. We never heard more about it and we certainly kept an eye on it. The person would have been a hardcore fan if it sold and at least posted about it somewhere. Everything we tracked on that auction made it seem like the seller pulled it randomly.

Exactly. lol LP fans have complained nonstop. Only time I don't remember any complaining was 2003-2004 where it seemed like every single thing the band did was seen as a genius move by the fans. MTM onwards, it's been chaos. LPLive itself has caused a ton of backlash and drama over the years and we won't even try to deny it. The band going with the same setlists like 4-5 shows in a row in Europe 2010, I mean people were ready to flat out riot on social media and the forums. Ha. The song was released in October. Like 3-4 months ago. Who says he isn't writing new music right now?

Truly doubt they do or release anything, but this is the one time in history the rest of the Roxy 2004 songs make sense and are simple to do as there is no other Jay-Z management or label involvement needed. If they want to take that step, MFR 2005 is a genius thing to put out. The band seemed less interested in Meteora 20 than Hybrid Theory 20 overall. I think their interest in Collision Course 20 would be even smaller. Easiest thing to do: Put some live footage on YouTube. Not a great way to make money, though. Next step: Little booklet with photos and a DVD of Roxy 04 and MFR 05. Doesn't look like there is much in-between. Just don't see another good way to put the Roxy songs out unless the band somehow releases like 5 songs one day down the road in audio. But video?

It's funny because in every era there is something to complain about. Remember when we complained about LPU 8? Or Breaking the Habit (live) on so many LPU CDs? lol This type of sentiment has always existed. ATS era setlists in Europe to start? People were freeeeeaaaaaking out they weren't changing sets. lmao

I think the remaining holy grail items people know about are: "Webster Hall" making of MTM footage No Roads Left with Chester Friendly Fire, I guess Live shows: Tokyo 2006 Full Roxy 2004 MFR 2005? There are some really good ones like KROQ 2007 Acoustic Xmas, MSG 2008, Berlin 2008, etc. They have enough shows to go forever on releases. HT20 and M20 really took the list down. We got She Couldn't, Pictureboard, Projekt Revolution 2002, Fillmore 2001, a ton of Meteora era shows including a PR 2004 proshot everyone wanted, Nottingham 2003 in full with the missing songs, Lost (thoughts that take away my pride), Wizard Song (Resolution), a bunch of tracks we didn't even know existed (More the Victim, Fighting Myself, Massive, Healing Foot, etc). We got a ton of stuff. Let's see what happens in the next few years. I'd love any missing DSPs as Joze said. There are 2007 shows missing - I know they must have Las Vegas 2007 (we still don't even know what was over Points of Authority at that show... wild), probably some Europe shows before Projekt Rev. They didn't just decide to record every single show with Projekt Rev - they probably recorded some leading up to it. Maybe not all. But would love the missing 2007 shows, there is an entire 2008 tour missing in Europe which has amazing setlists. 2009 has missing shows. 2012. They can easily just toss random shows out over time, like X Games 2012, KROQ 2012 - there is nothing released from 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017 for full shows. Would love to see them release a 3-4 shows per year somehow online from the vault; I'd buy them all. A shame we are missing so many good shows - Europe 2007, Europe 2008, Australia 2013, Asia 2013 specifically. The early 2015 shows were really good too.

Roxy 2004 in full would be a great CC 2004 celebration. Think about it, they don't need any permission from Jay-Z to put out Don't Stay, Somewhere I Belong, the medley, Breaking the Habit, and From the Inside. 5 songs. Smokeout 2003 sent people into fits...imagine what these 5 songs would do. Is there a better time in history than now to release the extra 5 songs? As much as I'd like MFR 2005 to be released, they'd probably have to work that out with Jay-Z somehow. That show is AMAZING and would be great. But the Roxy songs seem like an easy, grand slam idea and people would buy the footage however they put it out. Throw it on a cardboard case bonus DVD or something.

Waiting for Tomorrow is a banger and would work in that style. How you play that live and to what extent is something like that interesting live with so much playback is an entirely different thing, though. Doesn't look like anything anytime soon. They had fewer members participate in Meteora 20 than HT20. So, probably not. 2020 was a great time for it and they were writing music... hopefully COVID didn't ruin it forever. Hope they come back sometime this decade...

Japanese pianist Yomii has uploaded a preview of the 5th "Already Over" session where a prank is played on Mike. This nine minute video shows behind the scenes clips of rehearsals and song performances from the session. Of note, Mike is playing guitar on "Already Over", and as it turns out, the second song is none other than "Remember the Name"! Check out the prank played on Mike and the piano version of "Remember the Name" before the full session video is released soon. The clips of both songs at the end are full band and rock pretty hard! EDIT: full video is out: CREDITS: Lead Guitar: かずき / Kazuki Bass: MINA Piano: よみぃ / Yomii Drums: マイキ / Maiki Musical Director: Minoru Yokoo Special Thanks To: Warner Music Japan Angela Mariko Tanaka Sarasa Sugawara Keisuke Kevin Koshima Joey Constantine Jim Digby Recorded at Avaco Studio Recording 301

Still no luck on these files a few years later. The one person with the original playable files that we knew of moved and lost their hard drive... terrible luck. Dang.

Yeah, there is no way ATS was trendy. They started that album for a video game, remember? Catalyst was a wild choice for a single and very risky/bold. Don't think there is that much that's trendy about the LP catalog honestly - it takes so long to make an album the trend at the time is not even the same 18 months later and you can't predict something that far out for what is going to be trendy. Eventually you'll match it up, sure. Meteora was just a continuation of the Hybrid Theory sound but evolving it slightly (masterpiece album). About the sessions: Not sure why In My Head can't be released. That would have been a good one to put out there too.

We actually can't confirm FTI at this time - it isn't Hamburg like it was commonly thought for 15+ years. The show is unknown.

It's ok, they would have gotten what, a 60-70 minute set at KROQ? And their make up announcement is a free show at the Forum in LA. So, they'll get a full show. It worked out haha

Thanks. Mixed this show up with KROQ Almost Acoustic Christmas which RHCP canceled lol. Oops.