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Mr. Hahn Fucks Up Meteora Style, some corrections based on my own listening. Been on my backburner, figured I'd post. This was done over several years so if anyone disagrees with any of these let me know. I'm pretty confident they're correct. SIDE A 6:10 - 7:24 - Hit the Floor/Nobody's Listening Scratch Samples (The first sample is the one used in the verses and bridge of HTF. Especially easy to hear in the bridge sample drops. The second sample is briefly scratched at the end of the Nobody's Listening bridge - and it seems to also be the sample used later for The Catalyst.) 7:24 - 8:38 - Lying from You bridge scratch (This pitch shifted "By Myself" sample is out of sequence, appearing after HTF samples, but it's not from that song as currently assumed. It's actually the LFY bridge scratch sample - if you listen you hear the middle part of that sample (kinda sounds like "el - el -- el" when Joe does a sample drop, same tone and pitch.) 10:37 - 11:47 - Easier to Run scratch sample (Not "ticking samples" as currently described. The first may be, but the second is definitely the pre-chorus scratch sample. Also easy to hear when Joe does the sample drops, it has a distinctive percussive quality.) 12:01 - 14:35 - Easier to Run intro sample (Not the scratch as currently stated. This is the "whoosh" swelling effect that starts right before the drums come in at the beginning of the song, swelling up until the intro chorus.) SIDE B 5:49 - 7:03 - From the Inside bridge backing sample (Not scratched, as I've indentified the scratch below. I'm guessing the "You" likely just backs Chester; the OSC "break" sample is very buried in the mix but upon some amateur Audacity work inverting the stereo tracks against each other, I found this sample was at the beginning of each repeat of the bridge guitar riff - beginning of the measure, same time as the first open power chord in the riff.) 7:03 - 8:17 - From the Inside synth sample and scratch (The synth "beeps" are already identified in the article. The "white noise" sounding sample is what is scratched throughout the song, however. Joe adds some flange effects to it. Again identifiable by listening to Joe's sample drops after the scratches, most clearly in the opening riff of the intro.) 9:32 - 10:46 - Lost scratch, Numb scratch sample(s)/Session outro (The first "ah" sample in this loop is the pre-chorus scratch sample for Lost. The second is the scratch sample used in the Numb pre-choruses, and is also heard at the end of Session slowed down a ton. The last is the sample I believe may be used for the intro scratches at the very beginning of Numb buried in the mix, though not 100% sure on this one.) 10:46 - 11:41 - Numb/Lost sample (This is only able to be heard in Numb if you're listening to the effects track from Rock Band or something, it's completely buried by the guitars in the studio mix. Pitched up for Numb. This plays underneath the instrumental intro chorus riff. This same sample is then used again in the bridge and final chorus for Lost, where Joe lets it play and then does a "tapestop" effect - if that's the right terminology - on it.) 11:41 - 13:45 - Continuation of previous with the effected beat, possibly used for the ending chorus of Lost? The sample scratched on Session is on Tasty Gas Station Breaks but doesn't appear here for some reason.

So I'm not an expert by any means, but I've done a little research in the past and can give you my best guess as an non-player. 1.8 (1 shaku, 8 sun) is the most common length, so that might be worth looking at, and I have read anecdotally that length is often used when accompanying Western instruments or styles of music. I found this cover of the song as well by a player using a 1.8 shakuhachi. If you're interested in the instrument and more performances of it, I can also send you some recommendations from players such as Watazumi Doso.

I've been sitting on this question for years... What are the official titles of all the LPU CDs? Linkinpedia labels all the releases as "LP Underground (_)" but the packaging for many shows wildly different naming schemes, and Discogs/MusicBrainz also use even more different naming schemes, often also omitting "Linkin Park" from the title entirely (though I think this is mostly due to a lack of understanding that the fan club is called LPU). And metadata really matters to me. Looking at my own collection plus images from Discogs, etc for the ones I don't have, the titles read: LP Underground 2.0 (or more accurately, "LP Underground" [2.0], but that's nitpicky) Linkin Park Underground (main cover says this, inside cover refers to it as "LP Underground 3") Linkin Park Underground 4.0 Linkin Park Underground 5.0 Linkin Park Underground 6 LP Underground 7 No comment on 8, surprisingly it's the most straightforward Linkin Park Underground 9: Demos LP Underground X: Demos Linkin Park Underground Eleven Linkin Park Underground 12 (per spine) Linkin Park Underground XIII Linkin Park Underground XIV (per additional merchandise) Linkin Park Underground 15 (not sure about this one) Linkin Park Underground Sixteen Does this really matter that much? Probably not. Does it still bug me and burn for a definitive answer? Yes. Thanks for your attention and have a nice day.

I'm organizing the Nashville memorial so I shared this to the event page. People definitely really loved this idea. I'm hoping I can come. (EDIT: I have my ticket) Will any of the LPL staff be there?

<3 Preach.

I love this album. I was so skeptical after Heavy and eventually moved on from hyping it but it surprised me so much. The outsiders helped the lyrics immensely. This is a pleasant turn, especially with how songs like Sorry for Now, Invisible, One More Light, and Sharp Edges turned out. I'm extraordinarily disappointed that my preorder CD was delayed because I want it on my shelf now. Favorite track: Sorry for Now Least-favorite track: Talking to Myself (easily one of the weakest songs on the album, but still a good song) EDIT: Read through more of the thread and I'd like to address the person who said that anyone who loves this album can't possibly like rock. I listen to heavy artists going as far as metal acts like Make Them Suffer, Periphery, Asking Alexandria, and Chelsea Grin. You're embarrassing yourself.

I actually like this song. Hang me.