LPPanther Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 I would hope Mike cares about the fans enough to back up what he said if it came down to it. That you could show his post on the LP.com forums and wherever else he said it and he would admit he said that. Now who knows if that would even help but it's a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
murphyLP Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 People got to stop saying.. "mike said it was ok". "He need to back up the fans". No he don´t. If there was any illegal material on the site Warner has the right to sue the one who was providing it. And by the way...Mike says all the time in his site/blog. When you sign a contract you need to know you are under rules of the record label, and these are the Warner rules. Don´t share official Linkin Park material. Period. I didn´t saw the site. I´m just assuming there was official material in there. If there wasn´t nobody should be worried because the guy would win in the court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antje Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 (edited) Well, I think Mike cares a lot about the fans. But I really doubt Mike can help. If there is a chance to kick warners ass.....Mike would do that already. Just read between the lines on his blog... But what would happen if Mike stands really up against Warner? Warner: "Oh, you don't like what we do? Well, you can go! But everything what ever you have written, recorded...all in your mind....IT'S MINE!" I hope everything will go well for the italian guy. Edited December 30, 2008 by Antje Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KATHYxx Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 I believe by "no copyright infringement" he means no copyright infringement from Warner Brothers, who definitely have jurisdiction over all their recorded releases. Otherwise the copyright goes to Linkin Park, theoretically. The only defense, and I am no lawyer, I can think of is to say Warner is not the copyright holders of these performances and cannot sue him. Linkin Park must be the ones to file the lawsuit. I think that's kinda taunting the bull here, but it might reduce the number of songs he might have to pay for, and I doubt LP would attempt to sue... I don't think the LP.com archives go far enough back, but I recall distinctly in December 2002 a post by Mike Shinoda on the news page, right after LPU 1.0 ended, saying that if fans cannot get a hold of the HTEP, then they can download it. His post was followed by a track listing of the CD. This is one reason why I don't think LP would be inclined to sue. Where it might get foggy, imo, is those internal Warner demos. They might or might not count. I don't know what was hosted on LPI but those demos might have been there. And of course, I cannot tell the exact details of LP and Warner's contract, and so I cannot tell how much power Warner had over LP's works. Or whether or not LP have any copyright power over their songs. I think it's woth considering. Then again, i wrote it. You guys are acting like Warner is just making this up for the fuck of it. They violated some copyright law and will go in front of a judge. If there's no case then they won't win BUT if the guy is guilty he'll be found guilty and punished. Warner is a BUSINESS. You guys always forget that. They're not out here to make friends, they're here to make money and they do a damn good job of it. In copyright lawsuits, you are guilty until proven innocent. That isn't what it says on paper but it how it typically goes down in court. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KATHYxx Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 I think whitout documents, say "Mike said it's okay" doesn't have so much value in court. You got something better than a handshake deal though. What Mike Shinoda said is in print. January 2007. I can still remember when he said it. I don't think he would say that unless that were something outside of Warner's reach, I could be wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPMaskMan Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 FUCK WARNER! another reason, why not buy warner's releases, i'll neva buy LP CDs/DVDs etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterLP Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 I don't think we'll solve this problem like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elyx Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Warner is a MAFIA. i agree.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[AndOne] Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Why just this site? They could take down a lot more if they wanted. I think every site violates the copyright laws in some way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkinMinor555 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 (edited) I just don't get it. Why does Warner have to go and screw shit up for the rest of us? And true, we can't keep saying that Mike said it was okay to (and I quote) "Torrent away!". Warner owns Mikes ass, not the other way around. They pretty much have the power to override what he says about anything that has to do with their material. Is there anyway that LP could get out of Warner's contract and Start their own label? Edited December 30, 2008 by LinkinMinor555 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luki9875 Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 i wonder how come bazinga! is still open...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zwieR.Z. Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 i wonder how come bazinga! is still open......Yeah, I was going to ask the same question.I don't know what linkin-park.it had in their download, but if it really was stuff like demos and instrumentals I don't get it. Nameless - how was it - Warner warned him, he deleted the files and after that Warner wants to punish him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[AndOne] Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 bazinga! is still there cause they have other laws for file sharing and the US law cant get them or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sizedude Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 It makes me wonder though, Linkin Park are one of Warners biggest and most consistent band signed, Warner where probably on there knees the in 2005 when LP wanted out. To me it seems that theres been some serious meetings up in Warners headquators to tighten up on copyright infringement (by taking off YouTube videos, sueing fan sites, God knows what eles). Most likely partly driven by the financial cires, but even if it is, Warner still have the right. It does seem cruel to jump up on people like this, but it still doesn't rule off the fact that Warner can. i wonder how come bazinga! is still open...... There using linkin-park.it as an example, I'm guessing that Warner is doing this to scare other sites such as bazinga!, why Warner chose linkin-park.it over another site I have no idea but thats the law. I wish the people at linkin-park.it the best though, cause it was a decent site, even though it was in italien I still visited it quite a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nameless Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 (edited) Yeah, I was going to ask the same question. I don't know what linkin-park.it had in their download, but if it really was stuff like demos and instrumentals I don't get it. Nameless - how was it - Warner warned him, he deleted the files and after that Warner wants to punish him? Only Demos, Bootlegs, "Other songs" and stuff like that. I think warner warned him, he deleted the download zone but warner did their raid too Edit: JomJom told me that 2-3 months before the warner raid, he was warned to remove some stuff from the DL zone. So he decided to close the whole section. months after, the site will be closed by warner with no possibility to renew the internet domain Edited December 30, 2008 by Nameless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
And One LTU Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 (edited) ************************************************* I HAVE NO WORDS..... I visited linkin-park.it couple times, but I don't remember there was not legal files or not... If not - I don't understand. So the fans' live recordings, live cds, proshot videos are not legal too? BULLSHIT! Hope they won't close any Lithuanian Linkin Park site... Edited December 30, 2008 by And One LTU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michalangelo Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 I'm wondering: what about audience recordings? I mean taping is prohibited but what about those recordings you still have on your hdd ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ana Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 Oh jeez...this is awaiting for me too.. if they get me because of LPHQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteAngel Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 I mean comon, close site when download section is already closed?? Pathetic.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JomJom Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 ya that's pretty strange. When i went to the police, they told me "you've been sued for having shared copyrighted mp3s", so i told 'em i didnt have any download area since May, and no copyrighted mp3s were on my site. They just refused to give any further explanation and so i asked "which mp3s??," They just told me "we cant say anything." I couldnt do anything at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nameless Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 They just told me "we cant say anything." exactly like mafia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deseo Sangre Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 If that guy didn't have any illegal mp3s on his site, then he shouldn't fear a punishment, since he has nothing to get punished for. (AND THEN ASK A DAMAGE CLAIM FROM WARNER) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elyx Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 (edited) Feb 26, 2007... (there's only 2007...) Edited December 31, 2008 by SouthernGirlAM Removed Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nameless Posted December 30, 2008 Author Share Posted December 30, 2008 (edited) Feb 26, 2007... (there's only 2007...) that's the very old version :\ Ah ma cazzo sei italiana XD Edited December 31, 2008 by SouthernGirlAM Removed link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elyx Posted December 30, 2008 Share Posted December 30, 2008 (edited) that's the very old version :\ yes i know... (sono italiana ci andavo ttt i gg sul sito) but there isn't this year... già già!!! XD ...mi è dispiaciuto un casino che lo abbiano chiuso...! era veramente bello! Edited December 30, 2008 by elyx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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