michalangelo

Some of you have a point here. Being a huge fan isn't the same as obssession.. Anyway, I don't see people running fansites getting anything so often these "superfans" do on shows. I haven't seen Mark sidestage this tour, haven't seen anyone I know and who runs a fansite for over a decade. They sure have been around for so long they at least deserve a damn free LPU if you ask me (as a huge thank you from the management for the work they put into everything). I sure would love to receive a so called -press package- from the management during new album release, you know, as LPCatalog to make some cool posts TO PROMOTE the new stuff. But i somehow don't (but why?). Random people do, then their package ends up on ebay. I have asked but got no reply about any promotion to this day. Instead I'm asked to not share any info I possibly might have earlier. This is not a cry post, just trying to understand how this works today? Maybe I just will not understand why warner ignores people. Anyway I don't want to point out specific people but damn, if fangirling is a new way of promotion I'm really too old for this shit..and I have noticed everyone shifted from "all fans are equal" to actually more hyping people who somehow have the funds to go around the world after a band. Sure, you are so cool you're spending shitload of money on our band. For that you need the recognition. Well done, this is awesome. In my opinion this is actually saying, "if you're wealthy you're better than other fans, you get more attention from everyone, you receive stuff on shows (drumsricks, picks, setlists etc.), you get invited on stage to watch a show. Really? Because of what? Spending money on more shows than other people? Case closed. This isn't about fans, people in general. This in fact is about your money -astronaut always has been meme here-. And it's not the fans fault in the first place. The "fangirls" are good people, pursuing their fav band and stuff, they're seem to be really polite and friendly with others. It's the recognition they get seems to bother everyone. And maybe the ones that give the recognition are wrong here? But they don't see the stuff they do as something wrong? Times have changed, tiktok and insta have changed the way people look at life in general unfortunately. Money money money, wealth, shows, merch. You see just this stuff on videos. You don't see real people interactions and talks. Maybe this is the problem? Prove me wrong here..

Count me in. Don't know about teams though, and your spirit is high af, I don't even want to think what happens if this only reaches the roaches under meteora wall 🫥 Would be cool to like have a coversation over whatsapp with someone in charge (and I don't mean Lorenzo or Adam..) to actually talk this through if it's something doable or "not a fuckin chance" EDIT: By the time 1 and 2 buy their seats you probably will end up with what? Last tow (seated) or sold out lpu pit?

Dudes, first of all leave tapes alone! These are for the older fans who know what a pencil has to do with tapes, ok? Also, I said this before and I'll say it now again, either it's all about the money (it always is today! d'oh) or there's lack of imagination in the management? Just the other day LPL posted "From Zero to $250 Million" they sure have the funding. End of the day fans will have to pay for the package. What happened to riddles, puzzles, scavenger hunt? What happened to kickass promotion? There are so many different options to make the fan club items cool -> CDs, mini cds, usb sticks, fold out digipacks etc. The quality of each item has decreased through years dramatically. There's no t-shirt, there's no CD. The backdrop pouch will not give the package any justice whatsoever imho. Fans do not need a pen or eye mask Why not bring couple of people who actually have been here (the LP community) for over 15-20 years together to work on something? Why not collaborate with fan sites on some items? (item #1 designed with the help of LPL, item #2 designed by lpcatalog, #3 LPBR, #4LPA and so on). Why not? Maybe because they don't need such things in the first place? Legal stuff? Dude, please.. WHY?

The signed thing I'd drop after few minutes of thoughts, just numbered would be cool.and a custom frame to put them backdrop pieces in would have been a game changer. For a second I wanted to get the bag, rip it apart and frame as mentioned but still, $75 not worth the time..

The backdrop was a cool idea but not as a bag. It supposed to be framed, signed/numbered. That's all. I mean you don't have to be a genius to figure out cool shit for the fanclub..this would sell out (as a package item that is) faster than this upcycled item you probably never use..

The problem today is that you sure can agree with many things we post here, you just can't talk about it or share your thoughts widely. You just comply and move along. End of the day it's your salary on the line (or in this case copyright strikes) Free speech ends when it's your ass on the line.. Idiocracy movie slowly changing from dumb comedy to documentary Also, I really would like to know who's behind the stuff in the new LPU. Not throwing rocks or anything, just curious how is the COLLECTABLE PEN or CONTOURED EYE MASK connected to music, LP and fan club in general. IMHO it's something you could produce to hand out for free if you're starting a business. You know, the things you give out as a promotion. Some will say we should be happy we get anything in general and I don't blame them. It is true on the other hand.. I have checked other bands. This is not looking good I'd say. Here's a wrap up with all the info, I asked gpt for help too: "Major bands have largely abandoned traditional, recurring physical welcome kits in favor of free or low-cost digital-first subscriptions that focus on ticket pre-sales, community chat apps, and digital content. Instead of automatic annual mailings, physical merchandise is now almost exclusively sold as optional, premium webstore add-ons or bundled into high-end VIP concert experiences purchased alongside tour tickets."

THIS! Agree with what you said. 26 signatures so far, either this is not trending yet or people simply don't give a shit anymore LPU was always something exclusive (for me) but it didn't mean I'm better fan than non-lpu fans. The exclusiveness was the t-shirt, the CD!, additional merch addded to the package, the band letter. Also, the exclusive things that non-lpu folks didn't have: text chats, video chats with the band members, EXCLUSIVE things outside the internet -> M&Gs, Early Entry, Early presale access. What's in it for us today? I don't think a petition will change the way this is heading.

But this world is full of fangirls (look below for Stranger's comment) who will buy literally anything in the name of "supporting" the band, not to think about what they're actually getting (and probably throwing into their closet or storage box). I was one of them trashing to be honest, and I can admit I was wrong. I fuckin play them cookies from time to time and I have so much fun listening to this thing..I apologise, I was wrong. I'd leave Lorenzo and Adam out of this, I'd say them higher folks at WB/management must be proud and happy it's an easy task these days. Exaclty.

LPU was always something exclusive (for me) but it didn't mean I'm better fan than non-lpu fans. The exclusiveness was the t-shirt, the CD!, additional merch addded to the package, the band letter. Also, the exclusive things that non-lpu folks didn't have: text chats, video chats with the band members, EXCLUSIVE things outside the internet -> M&Gs, Early Entry, Early presale access. Today? Like someone said, you need lpu to secure best spots on shows (the ticket prices are different topic) otherwise you'll end up in a 3rd section on the pit. Believe it or not, that's all unfortunately. What's exclusive about LPU today? Passport photo holder for sure Someone high-ranked must have forgotten that we're in this FOR THE MUSIC, not for random upcycled, recycled merch ideas (although piece of STAGE BACKDROPS is kinda cool, but not for $75) Can you see the difference here?: LPU has become same thing as the apps on your phone over months/years. Nobody ever asks what would you like us to change here and there, they just change things they think are better for you (but they're not). And all you're left with is something lackluster, bland and soulless (sorry for this but this is how I feel about the new package). After so many years, exciting two-year comeback I only expected a CD in the bundle. Nope. Here's your eye mask sir.

This is going into a wrong direction, even as a joke. Please restrain yourself from such statements. No hate from my side towards the band or Emily. I am still around, 3 shows from FZ tour including two London and they were expensive af to begin with. If I was a hater i sure wouldn't be around much.. As for the rest of your post, on point. Maybe it just is like that these days and people like me won't get it why it has to be like that :( I'm not saying I didn't buy some stuff but man, where's the end line for this?

I believe I've been around this band longer than most of you here, just sayin I have the right to say whatever I want the same way you can. If you're ok with all the cashgrab shit it's fine, I'm not ok with half of this. Music should be music, and not a business focused on milking the fans. They sure did great til' 2017 without all this silly stuff like yo-yos, sealing tape or 3543643 versions of vinyl. Two items from the store are just examples. Also I advise you too look up or ask who am I before posting shit like "you maybe sore..blah blah" lmao Exactly!

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Instead of focusing on cool MUSIC related merch they throw a yo-yo or a sealing tape at you. 🤣 Don't forget the cha-ching sound did not end yet - Unshatter movie should bring a good amount of money too. Then more vinyls. And after these maybe a LiMiT3D CD+DVD with the movie (maybe or maybe not - bring your whole family, friends, enemies, cat, dog, hamster, everything that could get them "their demand numbers". If they're good they'll think about releasing this DVD or a BLURAY (if the format's alive by the time). Or maybe not. Who knows?! But you sure can do some promotional work for them (get a movie screening at your cinema, which has to be paid out of your pockets most likely in order to see the movie). If it's not a top dollar move to get some cash flowing I don't know what is. Marketing 1.0.1 Unfortunately kids these days are nothing but money spenders, not thinking about their bank account, future or at least the reason to buy a stupid yo-yo for 20 bucks 🤣 YOLO v2.0^100000 And the label is exploiting this fact to the limits. The count did not stop at the 250 mil you know.. On topic: They should do a proper LPU smaller closed venues tour (London Brixton type of venues) This would be cool AF ❤️

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ If the thing will be poorly mixed...

Well, damn R.I.P Nick ;( He was the reason I really got into taping shows. Shit, he sent me a good rig to start with and I used it for over 15 years (last time last year in London :O) He sure will be missed around the community. Good old MSN days too..

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