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I finally ended comparing the songs versions from Papercuts CD with original album versions and single versions. Here are the results: 01.Crawling (03:29) - album version 02.Faint (02:42) - album version 03.Numb/Encore [Explicit] (03:26) - album version, but: the 2004 is louder, the volume of this one was a bit decreased - additionally it has +1 second of silence at the end - 2024 quality, maybe a small differences in mastering/EQ 04.Papercut (03:04) - album version, despite not having 1 second of silence at the start like the original version from the 2000 CD has - very small portion of the end was cut and added to beginning of BTH to create transition 05.Breaking The Habit (03:14) - contains small transition from Papercut - album version, it missing 2 seconds with transition to FTI at the end, because it was fade out 06.In The End (03:35) - album version - -1 second of silence at the end 07.Bleed It Out [Explicit] (02:44) - album version 08.Somewhere I Belong (03:34) - album version 09.Waiting For The End (03:51) - album version, with fade out at the end just before the blackout transition - 2012 master with different effects on vocals and guitar loop at the beginning (check the updated post here) 10.Castle Of Glass (03:24) - album version with just almost 1 second of silence cut at the end 11.One More Light (04:11) - album version, the last 3 seconds of it were cut and added to BID to create transition 12.Burn It Down (03:49) - album version, almost 1 second a the end was cut from it - contains small transition from OML 13.What I’ve Done (03:25) - album version - it has an issue with intro fade in, the same like WID in some digital versions of MTM 14.QWERTY (03:21) - it's 2008 version, which means no transition from Annoncement Service Public and extra 2 seconds of silence at the end - on the Papercuts CD the 2 seconds of silence at the end were cut - quality upgrade 15.One Step Closer (02:35) - album version 16.New Divide (04:29) - the same as 2009 version, 2 seconds of silence at the end were cut - 2024 quality, maybe a small differences in mastering/EQ 17.Leave Out All the Rest (03:20) - can't really say if it's single version or edited album version, I guess it's edited album version - it contains 1 second of silence more at the end comparing to the single version 18.Lost (03:16) - album version, not 2002 mix, 2 seconds less of silence at the end - 1 second of ending of it was cut and added to Numb to create transition 19.Numb (03:06) - album version - it contains small transition from Lost

So 2012 version of WFTE has: - different effects on vocals and guitar loop at the beginning 2012 Iridescent: - a bit different effects on Mike's vocals at the beginning (2012 version vs 2010 version)

Well, that's not true. You see they are using a Hi-Res 24-bit as a source quality for the vinyls, the same source usually goes for digital platforms that sells/stream music in Hi-Res quality. And HTEP disc is one of those included on HT20 that is available on HDtracks in Hi-Res quality, there are very noticeable differences in mastering and both both gentleman's are mentioned in the credits for songs from HTEP. So yeah at least they are releasing the same files digitally.

Here are the credits of the HTEP vinyl from HT20: credits says: Mastered by Pat Kraus Mastered for a vinyl by Brian Gardner Can someone explain to me what's the difference between the vinyl and CD mastering. Is it mean (based on the credits) that they took the original HTEP copy mastered by Pat Kraus to Brian and he use it to make the mastering for a vinyl, is that right? Because if Brian worked on the complete unmastered version then what's the point to include the Pat's credits if only one person mastered the whole thing?

Since we know it now, let's call this alternate version of WFTE the 2012 version. I was comparing the Papercuts version with the album versions from the 2010 CD I bought because I wanted to check if there is no transition to Blackout at all or it can be still noticeable and then I have noticed that the "got" at the end sounds different so I decided to compare and check the whole track. All vinyls of ATS were released in 2010, there is no any single one released in the later years, based on the info from lpcatalog, so I'm assuming there's no vinyl edition containg 2012 version of WFTE. If it's about the digital version, there is a standard version available on spotify here and bonus version here, containing the 2010 originals, both are also available on qobuz and some other digital stores. I think currently iTunes and Apple Music are the only two not having the 2010 versions anymore. Also, I compared the WFTE music videos, the one that I bought from iTunes few years ago. The SD quality and full HD (that contains audio in Apple Digital Master quality) both has the original 2010 version of the song but the new 4K upgrade which is on YouTube and in some other digital platforms contains the 2012 version.

Confirmed: this version of WFTE was delivered to digital stores in 2012 that became Mastered for iTunes/ 24-bit versions in some digital stores. So it's the same time of when the wrong versions of SOTD, NRL was delivered.

So Waiting For The End on "Papercuts" CD contains no transition to Blackout which is happening for the first time, since the WFTE Promo CD single or the official CD single released in stores had the album version of the song. Besides the lacks transition to Blackout, the song also contains different effects used on vocals. A different delay effect on the Papercuts version can be heard when you compare below two fragments: WFTE-album version WFTE-papercuts/2012 album version Another example with even more noticable difference is at the end when Chester sings the last word "got!": WFTE-album version WFTE-papercuts/2012 album version When you compare those fragments you will be able to hear those differences. Also, there might be something else which I'm not sure about it. I exctracted the acapella from both versions and I want you to compare and let know what you think about it. Here are two fragments of the acapella: WFTE (acapella)-album version WFTE (acapella)-papercuts/2012 album version When Chester sings "Flying at the speed of light" - it's about the last word "light" it sounds a bit different and the question is, is it sounds different because of the different effects on the vocals or it's different vocal take? EDIT: sometimes try to listen to those fragments in the different order, it can help to notice better the differences. EDIT2: the guitar loop at the beginning also has different effects: WFTE-2010-album version WFTE-papercuts/2012-album version

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Thanks for the info! OML has 4:12 not 4:15 is it also because of few seconds of silence removed at the end?

Thank You! So Lost was also edited sinc it has 3:16, not 3:19. The ending of it was probably shortened. I wold like to compare it and the rest of the tracks.

Can you post the length of all tracks from the CD?

The same issues are in some editions of MTM WID is fade in, while SOTD has fade out at the end. That's what i thought. Is there anywhere in the credits an info like "mastered for a vinyl" for example in the credits for LOATR? Also, is Lost, BTH and OML have different lengths? Those are what they should have it: Breaking The Habit (03:16) One More Light (04:15) Lost (03:19)

I recently checked out the main and the bonus editions on spotify and some other platforms and the label already fixed that. Yes on spotify and some other platforms there are 3 different versions of the WID single each one with different tracklist but since 2012 none of them currently have the single version of the song.

No new mix/mastering, just quality upgrade.

It's too late for that and if they will do that to the current already released album it will effect some of the past releases. That's because the single version of WID was included to all Minutes To Midnight pre-orders and later was associated with all already released versions of MTM probably because they didn't have the album version of it ready around the time when the single was out. So the digital single and album had the same single version of the song and had the same identifier (the ISRC code), so later in 2012 when they were fixing all the MTM albums by providing to them the album version of the song it was also affecting all the versions of the digital single. But in general, they can put out the single version without messing the versions in the album all they have to do is use a different ISRC code for the single version and that's all. I would love to have a single version of the song back again in the WID single. It would require them to re-release the single, but that doesn't seem a problem for them. They re-released WFTE as 3 track in 2020. New Divide, Heavy were re-relased in 2023 on spotify with different tracklistings.

Phoenix said it.

No that much new content actually. Like half of the content was taken from the LPTVs which were released years ago.

Small update on Papercuts - the label already delivered the hi-res versions for all tracks and reveal the quality for all those: Numb/Encore - 24-bit/96.0kHz QWERTY - 24-bit/96.0kHz New Divide - 24-bit/96.0kHz Just a reminder that all 3 will be available in hi-res quality for the first time.

Burn It down, New Divide are now 4K. Numb/Encore is now full HD and not censored. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLlF2FMv968

3:22 / 5:27

If they would back under a new name with new singer and brand new material and at concerts occasionally they will play some LP songs, for example if they will play "Faint" it would mean they played a cover of it, right?

On Friday March 29, new edition of Friendly Fire single will be out on all digital platforms. The single contains official acapella and instrumental version of the song. Tracklist: 01.Friendly Fire (A Capella) (2:58) 02.Friendly Fire (Instrumental) (2:56) Source: Apple Music, Qobuz

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