I can so pull that card. There are a lot of people (not me) who think it was one of their worst albums. I believe ATS is better than Meteora, simply because A) Its more mature and less ANGSTY (One of my major issues with Meteora: Even though there is a strong and powerful message with most of the album, the Angst deteriorates the lyrical power (for me, anyway)), B ) The lyrics are more powerful and the style is better defined and C) The flow of the album is better. Sure it has more interludes, but A) Even without them its longer, B ) Some of the interludes are awesome (Jornada Del Muerto, Fallout, The Requiem) and C) They give the album a bigger feel, and increase the intense atmosphere altogether. Meteora has its moments, but ATS just blows everything else they've done out of the water, IMO.