Soeffingnaive92

Love your provocative new name 😂😂😂😂😂I fucking Love Amends too

A pop song with Mike rapping like Welcome ? Because I consider Welcome straight garbage, hated that song and the similar sounding Prove You Wrong since day one 🤪🤪sorry just my opinion

😂😂😂😂😂yeah it should have been an EP.

Yeah, except for the remixes in which the band is involved and ALTNC, Recharged is terrible, the Powerless remix is nightmarish, like yeah let’s turn a power ballad into a early 2000s house mess !

Even if I’m not a huge fan of PT, I think it’s unfair to compare it to the LP albums because of the circumstances that surround the making of the album, and because it was made by Mike alone in like less than a year. With that said, I think that criticism, if expressed with the right tone and words, is legit even for PT, and I find myself to agree with JZLP on the fact that I don’t feel much connection with some songs on the record and their lirycal content

yeah they sound really bad, LGM Recharged level of bad

LOL hahahah

Someone should remix the song editing out the altered pitched voice that sounds like a bad movie villain

Ok but I always felt they were more comfortable doing OML than THP. As SFNL14 said, THP always sounded forced and heavy for heavyness sake to me, and some songs just feel empty, best example being KTTK that is basically Victimized extended version with a cool guitar solo.

NCSM is awesome in terms of Chester's vocal performance. Also, maybe it's just me and I'm mad but Chester's delivery on OML reminds me of his prime with Grey Daze at times, I mean, listen to OML and listen to Soul Song, they are 20 years away on e from the other one but he shines on both

I was super into THP when it dropped, but to me even tho it was a "fuck the label we do what we want" type of album and I can understand and respect the idea, to me it has aged horribly, it's my least fav in terms of Chester's vocals, he basically yells in some songs and I've got big problems with the first five. KTTK and AFN might be my least fav LP songs to date (alongside with HTF, Nobody's Listening and In Between), GATS has cool instrumentation but the verses are so formuliac and lirycally it comes of as the stereotypycal "anti" song, except for the Rakim part that's cool, The Summoning is ok (quite useless but ok), War is fun but again, Chester basically yells "WAAAAAAAAR DESTROYERRRR", then from Wastelands on I like it (especially Rebellion and FM, amazing songs), ALITS is good but overrated IMO and the rap verse is out of place. OML to me feels the opposite, I always felt they were all on board with the project and, even if it's not super creative in terms of music, it's super enjoyable, I remember liking every song upon the first listen sooo, yeah, it's very personal Plus, the fact that Chester took singing lessons (vocal coach or stuff like that, you know better than me) was something really effective on OML, I love his delivery on the title track, NCSM, BS (that bridge is awesome) and Halfway Right (probably my fav song)

I’m not saying OOA is shit, I really like the album, but just saying that the raw mixing/less polished sound of the Fire and My Suffering demos fit better

Yes we have to consider that we fans dive into their music really often, even the demos. I don't think Mike regularly plays Across the Line or WWDK, maybe he doesn't listen to those songs since 2008 or so. I even remember Chester saying that WFTE was on LT... like LOL

THP is their worst record by far, the first half is Empty and dull, it recovers from Wastelands on.

Thank you 😊 I remember Mike saying it’s nothing special but I can understand the curiosity. So I guess it has vocals on it

Why are you guys so interested in Pictureboard? Just asking, because I know nothing about the song and I'm wondering why it's looked as something "legendary"

Wow Halfway Right is my fav song on the album and a top 20 Lp song for me love how we fans can have sooo different thoughts

As a fan, the thing that I always thought and most music critics and fans didn't admit is that the album is SUPER RISKY for a band like LP. I mean, it's super pop ok, but if you are Linkin Park and for the 1st time in your career you decide to put out a record with no screaming at all (even ATS had Blackout on it), only one rap verse from Mike, no heavy distorted guitars and go full pop, well kudos.

Agree on this, I specifically mentioned My Suffering and Fire because those 2 are better in the demo versions, about the others I agree with you, except for one thing: the demo bridge of WIC is awesome

Totally agree on this, Fire and My Suffering demos are a lot better

Songs like my Suffering and Condemned needed a THP-like production and instead we got a super polished pop-like production... like WTF

Never changed my mind on the album, fully enjoyed it since day 1, definitely my favorite post-ATS Lp album, as a whole I'd put it in 3rd/4th place. Absolute favorites are NCSM, Halfway Right and OML, but there's not a single song I fully dislike.

yeah I think the production really fits the album, it’s not overproduced like, say, Out of Ashes where some songs needed a more raw and in your face approach instead of being super polished

Absolutely agree, like Mike said on Hold it Together about the "awkward joke"

Yeah I think he intended that. Also, I really didn't like the "dead dad jokes" but it was probably his way to take it slightly lighter. I think he's a good guy