jakolp Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 its stupid idea to add this speech into album I wouldn't call it stupid.. It's a funny idea and a cool fun-fact.. And it actually fits good in the song.. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9012-victimized-speech/page/2/#findComment-174479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgr Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 I wouldn't call it stupid.. It's a funny idea and a cool fun-fact.. And it actually fits good in the song.. true - the whole idea of making a dishonest living off others. I think it works Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9012-victimized-speech/page/2/#findComment-174482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeardyWilderness Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 I think that is looking too much into it. I just think they thought it sounded cool and kept it. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9012-victimized-speech/page/2/#findComment-174492 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahinz Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 I wouldn't call it stupid.. It's a funny idea and a cool fun-fact.. And it actually fits good in the song.. it might have been at toward end of song... the speech cut this song suddenly.. at least lp shouldnt play this sh*t at Live Shows and LP can mistake, every lp's step mustn't be %100 true... open to criticism Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9012-victimized-speech/page/2/#findComment-174523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFNL14 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 First i thought its cool, now I think its funny AND cool Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9012-victimized-speech/page/2/#findComment-174524 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakolp Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 and LP can mistake, every lp's step mustn't be %100 true... open to criticism I suspect you are new here... I am always the first here (at least I try to) when it comes to pointing out what LP does wrong.. And when it comes to the Victimized "speech".. I just think it fits good.. The whole thing of it not being cool started with this topic.. At least I never saw anyone complaining before.. P.S. ATS is the worst album I've listened to and probably the worst I'll ever listen to. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9012-victimized-speech/page/2/#findComment-174529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahinz Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 P.S. ATS is the worst album I've listened to and probably the worst I'll ever listen to. so you mean MTM is better than ATS?? mtm based on greedy... just making a lot money Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9012-victimized-speech/page/2/#findComment-174675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFNL14 Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 so you mean MTM is better than ATS?? mtm based on greedy... just making a lot money I wonder what makes you say that..... Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9012-victimized-speech/page/2/#findComment-174693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanekZech Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I wonder what makes you say that..... probably stupidity Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9012-victimized-speech/page/2/#findComment-174708 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueSoul Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 probably stupidity+1 Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9012-victimized-speech/page/2/#findComment-174720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakolp Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 so you mean MTM is better than ATS?? In every imaginable way possible.. MtM might be LP's best album if it wasn't for Valentine's Day and In Between.. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9012-victimized-speech/page/2/#findComment-174725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geki Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 so you mean MTM is better than ATS?? mtm based on greedy... just making a lot money MTM is better than ATS x1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 in every single way possible. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9012-victimized-speech/page/2/#findComment-174752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twiilite Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 P.S. ATS is the worst album I've listened to and probably the worst I'll ever listen to.Don't say that within 10,000 miles of LPA... Those words are blasphemous over there. They'll burn you on a stake. I would never say ATS is LP's worst album, in fact it may very well be my favourite, but it's certainly not "music's gift from God" like everyone over there claims. And on topic, the Victimized speech fits perfectly with the mood and atmosphere of the song. It's not long enough to drag the rest of the song down (coughWretchesAndKingscough) Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9012-victimized-speech/page/2/#findComment-174806 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahinz Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 probably stupidity dont forget that if lp started their carrier with MTM, you wouldnt lp fan... maybe LP really loves most MTM... so it means LP wasnt honest with us while releasing ht & meteora.. i dont believe in LP soul... QWERTY song released and after MTM ??? what a weird.. everything is money for LP... use your brain... to judge.. deal? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9012-victimized-speech/page/2/#findComment-174899 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geki Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 dont forget that if lp started their carrier with MTM, you wouldnt lp fan... maybe LP really loves most MTM... so it means LP wasnt honest with us while releasing ht & meteora.. i dont believe in LP soul... QWERTY song released and after MTM ??? what a weird.. everything is money for LP... use your brain... to judge.. deal? That isn't true at all. LP always makes music from their heart, music that they enjoy. The band has stated that many times. The sound they originally made on HT and Meteora isn't the only kind of music that the band wanted to make. They wanted to evolve and further explore and expand their sound, which they did with MTM and ATS, and also with Living Things. Also, Qwerty was not released after MTM. Qwerty was first played live at the Summer Sonic shows in 2006 and then they later recorded a studio version of the track for the LPU and included a live performance from Summer Sonic for the LPU as well, which was all released in November/December of 2006. MTM was released in May of 2007. The band then played Qwerty at a few shows on PR07, and have not played the song again until this year, playing a portion of it live with Victimized. Your argument is invalid. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9012-victimized-speech/page/2/#findComment-174900 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JanekZech Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 dont forget that if lp started their carrier with MTM, you wouldnt lp fan... maybe LP really loves most MTM... so it means LP wasnt honest with us while releasing ht & meteora.. i dont believe in LP soul... QWERTY song released and after MTM ??? what a weird.. everything is money for LP... use your brain... to judge.. deal? A lot of this doesn't make any sense, as Geki pointed out... The band has said that they love each of their albums equally and felt that each of them was the right thing to do at the time. A Thousand Suns has proved that money isn't LP's only motivation to make music. If they would only be interested in commercial success, they would have released carbon copies of Hybrid Theory until the end of their carrier. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9012-victimized-speech/page/2/#findComment-174933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sahinz Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 A lot of this doesn't make any sense, as Geki pointed out... The band has said that they love each of their albums equally and felt that each of them was the right thing to do at the time. A Thousand Suns has proved that money isn't LP's only motivation to make music. If they would only be interested in commercial success, they would have released carbon copies of Hybrid Theory until the end of their carrier. then, convince me.. why MTM?? why LP suddenly changed?? qwerty in 2006 ... this is a sick song! metero and ht as well.. 1. LP made this album for making money? or 2. lp wasnt honest with us while releasing ht and mtm? it means ht and meteora for money?? or 3. LP is talented.. also puppet of productioners? Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9012-victimized-speech/page/2/#findComment-174938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOHAIL_Lq Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 so you mean MTM is better than ATS?? mtm based on greedy... just making a lot money Did you order the CDs from iTunes or any other source? Or "FREE OF COST"???? If you bought,then you can say anything,I can bet,you downloaded from torrent lol Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9012-victimized-speech/page/2/#findComment-174943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lgr Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 well, this has gotten stupidly off-topic... Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9012-victimized-speech/page/2/#findComment-174955 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFNL14 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Music taste changes. So does human creativity. Things you do now may seem stupid later. Its usually called growing up Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9012-victimized-speech/page/2/#findComment-174956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOHAIL_Lq Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Music taste changes. So does human creativity. Things you do now may seem stupid later. Its usually called growing up lol,so true Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9012-victimized-speech/page/2/#findComment-174960 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinkinMark Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 well, this has gotten stupidly off-topic...Emphasis on the stupid! Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9012-victimized-speech/page/2/#findComment-174964 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RogueSoul Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) i dont believe in LP soul... dont forget that if lp started their carrier with MTM, you wouldnt lp fan... FUCK no. What I've Done got me into LP in the first place lol Edited September 20, 2012 by Soul Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9012-victimized-speech/page/2/#findComment-174966 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakolp Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 well, this has gotten stupidly off-topic... Then close it! YOU POSSESS THE POWER!!! Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9012-victimized-speech/page/2/#findComment-174968 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geki Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 then, convince me.. why MTM?? why LP suddenly changed?? qwerty in 2006 ... this is a sick song! metero and ht as well.. 1. LP made this album for making money? or 2. lp wasnt honest with us while releasing ht and mtm? it means ht and meteora for money?? or 3. LP is talented.. also puppet of productioners? I am probably the wrong person to tell that MTM sucks. But yeah. LP can make whatever they want. LP could make a country album if they wanted to. It's freedom. Nobody HAS to make music that they don't want to make. This whole debate is just plain stupid. LP didn't make MTM to ''make money'' because if they wanted to do that, they would have just released HT part 3. LP was honest for releasing HT and Meteora, because they felt that was right at the time, and it obviously worked pretty well for them. And why are you even a member of a LP fansite and posting if you think that LP doesn't make their own music and they are a label puppet? Doesn't make much sense. Go listen to Hybrid Theory alone in your room. You will feel better. Quote Link to comment https://lplive.net/forums/topic/9012-victimized-speech/page/2/#findComment-174975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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