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  1. 4 hours ago, Wilderness said:

    that was played at a private event as a special treat to the attendees - no one was supposed to share it. Just gotta be patient, this is a perfectly normal wait process for many artists.

    I'm pretty sure people were supposed to share it or else they wouldn't allow it to be filmed and we would have received take down requests. Believe me, they don't fuck around when they want stuff taken down.

  2. Does anybody remember this track? Starts the same way. It wasn't done on Twitch, it came out of nowhere. Maybe an early demo from this project? The new song, based on the snippet played by Mike, definitely has punk rock influences (more like pop punk), which explains the imagery we've been seeing for the last few days. If this turns out to be an album, I think we might hear other songs in this style.

     

     

  3. It's VMA season and today marks the 22nd anniversary of Linkin Park's first ever performance at the event. On September 06, 2001, the band took the stage at the Metropolitan Opera House to play an extended version 'One Step Closer' in collaboration with legendary DJ crew X-Ecutioners.

     

    The VMA performance took place just a couple of months after Mike announced to the Linkin Park Street Team that he and Joe had recorded a song with the group. Regarded by Mike as a Fort Minor track before the project even existed, 'It's Goin' Down' came out in early 2002 as the first single from X-Ecutioners' second studio album Built From Scratch, which happened to be the group's most commercially successful output due to the presence of many notorious artists in the songs.

     

    Today we're bringing you the contents of a promotional VCD for the album and its lead single. Issued in the Philippines, the disc contains 3 videos, the first of them being a short documentary introducing the group and featuring snippets of the VMA performance and Linkin Park's post-show interview at MTV TRL. The other two videos are the music video and the making of 'It's Goin' Down', recorded on January 8, 2002 at the Park Plaza Hotel in Los Angeles, where Guns N' Roses also shot their video for 'Welcome To The Jungle'. Many celebrities from the rock, hip-hop and skateboarding scene can be seen throughout the video, including the other 4 Linkin Park members, Wayne Static from Static-X (who, contrary to popular belief, doesn't play in the studio recording of the song), members of Adema, Xzibit, hed (p.e.), Tha Alkaholiks, and the Beat Junkies.

     

    The original files in the VCD are in .DAT format. Since some devices might have trouble opening this file extension, we're also providing the videos in .MP4 format.

     

    Thanks to Rvin Park.

     

     

    Download:

    MEGA: Folder

    WeTransfer: Part 1

    lp-bits: Torrent

    Linkinpedia

  4. 12 hours ago, bloodbath said:

    Why did the Projekt Revolution ended? The tour was immensely popular for the band, and specially the 04 and 07 were among the best yours the band has ever done. Was it because of money? Did the band got tired of having to organize that entire tour...?

    Too much work and too much money spent on it and the traveling festival format was losing popularity. A lot of money to transport a second stage and additional crews. Warner didn’t want to pay for it anymore. They did do Projekt Revolution during the A Thousand Suns era, but as one-off festivals instead of an entire tour. Same thing happened to other big traveling festivals.

  5. On 4/18/2023 at 11:31 AM, JZLP-NaughtyNottingham said:

    Let's throw Cross Off too. If they added It's Going Down to HT20, Cross Off should be there too.

    That's completely different. It's Goin' Down features at least two Linkin Park members and was played live at several Linkin Park shows, one of which is included in the 20th anniversary box set for Hybrid Theory. On the Meteora 20th anniversary release we got new live performances of the song (even if partial). Some early promotional releases of the song even listed it as a collaboration with Linkin Park (instead of "Mike Shinoda and Mr. Hahn" like in the official releases).

     

    I do think, however, that they missed the opportunity of releasing Rock And Roll (Could Never Hip Hop Like This) Part 2 in the Meteora box set and introducing a great song to casual Linkin Park fans. I mean, it does feature both Mike and Chester, the two voices of Linkin Park.

     

    10 hours ago, leftshoe18 said:

    I hope if they do 30th anniversary releases they're something a lot smaller. Maybe a deluxe edition with a couple unreleased bonus tracks at most. I would hate for them to render the 20th anniversary sets pointless.

    Agreed. An anniversary edition every 10 years could be a good idea, but no need to do a huge box set everytime. Some bands only release 1 show or a few bonus tracks in aniversary editions. Could be a good way to release the material they kept in the vault because they didn't consider it good enough for the 20th anniversary box set. Songs like Ashes, Turn To Grey, etc. would be good choices for bonus tracks in those smaller releases. Fans have been dying to hear them since Jeff Blue's book came out.

  6. In celebration of the 20th anniversary of Linkin Park's sophomore album Meteora, LPLive members Dylan Yadav and Anthony Staten guested on The Nu-Metal Agenda podcast to discuss the album and its legacy. The podcast is hosted by Holiday Kirk, self-proclaimed CEO of nu-metal and admin of the popular numetal_moment Twitter account.

     

    Listen on: AppleSpotify

     

    An extra discussion on the Jay-Z collaboration Collision Course can be found in the Nu-Metal Agenda Patreon. Listen to a preview here.

  7. Now that we know the origins of many of those samples and we have a list of samples present in each demo, I was thinking we could check their dates to figure out an approximate date for the demos. Here's the list I made:

     

    Spoiler

    None But The Lonely Heart by André Kostelanetz And His Orchestra (1958)
    From Russia With Love by John Barry (1963)
    Goldfinger by Shirley Bassey (1965)
    Tuesday Afternoon by The Moody Blues (1967)
    House Of Four Doors (Part 2) by The Moody Blues (1968)
    Parisian Pierrot by Julie Andrews (1968)
    Sex Explained For Children by Nathan S. Leichmann and Stanley Z. Daniels (1971)
    Change The Beat (Female Version) by Beside (1982)
    Running With The Night by Lionel Richie (1983)
    Step In The Arena by Gang Starr (1991)
    China by Tori Amos (1992)
    Shit, Damn, Motherfucker by D'Angelo (1995)
    Lifter by Deftones (1995)
    Eye For An Eye (Your Beef Is Mines) by Mobb Deep featuring Nas and Raekwon (1995)
    Little Horn by Marilyn Manson (1996)
    Unravel by Björk (1997)
    Around The Fur by Deftones (1997)
    Do It Again by EPMD (1997)
    Last Man Standing by EPMD (1997)
    The Perfect Drug (Nine Inch Nails Remix) by Nine Inch Nails (1997)
    Undenied by Portishead (1997)
    Half Day Closing by Portishead (1997)
    The Saga Begins by Rakim (1997)
    Vapor Trail by The Crystal Method (1997)
    Caribbean Connection by Big Pun featuring Wyclef Jean (1998)
    Intro by Big Pun (1998)
    You Never Knew by Hieroglyphics (1998)
    What's It All About by Rasco (1998)
    Me & My Crew by Rasco (1998)
    17 by The Smashing Pumpkins (1998)
    Just Like This by Limp Bizkit (1999)

     

  8. 8 hours ago, unksoldier2000 said:

    PORTIS1 - Undenied by Portishead

    Wow! I swear I went through their entire discography (great band by the way) and didn't hear this before.

     

    8 hours ago, unksoldier2000 said:

    NIN_PDRG/NIN_PDRG1 - The Perfect Drug (Remix Trent Reznor & Keith Hillebrandt) by Nine inch Nails

    Great catch. From The Perfect Drug Versions. Never considered that Mike could be using remixes of those songs.

     

    8 hours ago, unksoldier2000 said:

    3CYMS - Running With The Night by Lionel Richie

    Is this the same as "LIONELCYM"? I don't have the files handy to compare them.

  9. 10 hours ago, Ex97 said:

    This is amazing! Are these 2007 the Uncut versions shared on LPCatalog back in ‘15?

    7 hours ago, yagamilight207 said:

    Just noticed that there's another upload of the same lptv. Is it the final version?

    LPCatalog shared the Rough Cut DVD which had unfinished versions of those episodes. Scenes ordered differently, different editing, scenes not present in the final versions, etc.

     

    Linkin Park uploaded 2 different versions to their YouTube channel:

     

    The videos with 480p resolution are still unfinished versions, but different from the Rough Cut DVD. You'll noticed a lot of them have Figure.09 as the opening song, while the final versions used Qwerty. They all have title screens, which is something used for internal control, not for publicly release. They left Chester's butt uncensored (it's censored in the final version), there's the scene of them singing Baby Got Back (also present in the Rough Cut DVD) which was removed from the final version, you'll also notice there's a black screen in one episode with "Insert From The Inside Sequence" written on it that lasts a few seconds (obviously the scene hadn't been added yet at that point in the edition process).

     

    The latest uploads, the ones in 360p resolution and pretty compressed / pixelated, are the original extended versions that were sold on iTunes in 2007. They are the final versions of the episodes.

     

    Se we now have 3 different versions of those LPTV episodes. The unfinished version still being in their channel is most likely a mistake because YouTube allows Linkin Park to replace videos and keep the same links and view count. They didn't have to upload the finished versions under new links.

  10. I just went through the main post and noticed a few things about Minutes To Midnight:

     

    Road To Revolution is listed as the officially released CD / audio-only version. They removed Wake 2.0, Somewhere I Belong, Papercut and Points Of Authority from the release. On the DVD, they added Somewhere I Belong, Papercut and Points Of Authority as bonus tracks that are unblocked after you finish watching the show, but Wake 2.0 remains unreleased in any form. The best thing to do would be to restore the full show with the missing songs and in its original order just like they did with Live In Texas for the 20th anniversary of Meteora. Would certainly justify having this show there.

     

    Not Alone is listed as a Minutes To Midnight b-side, but in 2010 the band actually scrapped all the previously recorded vocals and wrote entirely new lyrics for the song for inclusion in the Download To Donate For Haiti album. It should be listed as an A Thousand Suns b-side.

     

    Across The Line is listed as "Across The Road" in the b-sides list as somebody else mentioned. Pretend To Be is listed as "Pretended To Be". Another correction on Pretend To Be: the version we have was actually done in 2008. The band worked on the song that year. So the "2008" date is not a mistake.

     

    We Made It had two versions recorded: a dirty and a clean version. Each with different lyrics. The version used in the music video and the single is the clean version. The dirty version is harder to come by because it isn't available in digital platforms and was only used in the US promo CD / vinyl. By the way, I guess you can add We Made It to the music videos list.

     

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    Things I noticed in the A Thousand Suns list:

     

    The b-sides list is missing Issho Ni from the Download To Donate: Tsunami Relief album.

     

    New Divide (Live In Madrid) is listed twice. By the way, all "Live In Madrid" (Puerta De Alcalá EP) tracks were released as well in the A Thousand Suns+ DVD in 2011. The DVD had the entire show in both audio and video format with the exception of Wisdom, Justice And Love which was removed for copyright reasons. Maybe they could work something out with the Martin Luther King Jr. family to release this song.

     

    You listed New Divide as a bonus track for the album in several stores, but the bonus track on those places was actually the NoBraiN remix of The Catalyst. The studio version of New Divide was never a bonus track on the album, but a live version (taken from The Catalyst single) was used as a bonus track for the Japanese edition of the album.

     

    On the LPU list, you included a demo version of Blackout, but no demo of Blackout was ever released to the LPU.

     

    What is "Empty Spaces/When They Come For Me"?

     

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    On The Hunting Party:

     

    You listed "The Hunting Party DVD" and "The Hunting Party: Live From Mexico". They are the same thing. There was only 1 bonus DVD for the album.

     

    I think the LPU tracks from 2015 should be listed under One More Light.

  11. 1 hour ago, AJ93 said:

    Also, since there's only one demo called The Glistening for THP. are there any more demo titles for THP? please let me know.

    Known working titles:

    - Coffee (Keys To The Kingdom)
    - True Chainz (All For Nothing)
    - Blinky (Guilty All The Same)
    - Warrior (War)
    - Artillery (Wastelands)
    - Thanksgiving (Until It's Gone)
    - Plato (Mark The Graves)
    - Drawbar (Final Masquerade)
    - Odyssey (A Line In The Sand)

     

    Known unreleased titles:

    - Apes
    - Control
    - Lifejacket / Spotify
    - The Glistening

     

    LPU Tracks:

    - Can't Hurt Me

     

    Possibly worked during The Hunting Party sessions:

    - White Noise (Mall soundtrack)

    - Horizons (Darker Than Blood) [Started in 2013 with Victorious (A Light That Never Comes)]

     

    10 hours ago, martinez said:

    Oh, ok, so that's the same link I have there which is for US edition, the song on the international edition had the name: Blackbirds (From The 8-Bit Rebellion! App)

     

    I think that the way how the song was called in the US edition was a mistake on the tracklist in the iTunes store, because I have it and the even the file name is 18 Blackbirds (From the 8-Bit Rebellion! App).m4a, also the song has the same name in the iTunes LP menu.

    I actually have Blackbirds with the "Non-Album Track" thing since 2010. I've never had an iTunes account though.

  12. On 2/19/2023 at 9:48 PM, AJ93 said:

    i see. but i take it that there's no b-side later on in a near future like mid-2020s right?

    It has now become common practice for bands to release all the singles before the album and release b-sides afterwards to keep the listeners interest. Most of the time it's alternative versions of songs from the album, but sometimes bands release songs that didn't make the album as well. For instance, Papa Roach recently released re-recordings of two singles from their latest album featuring additional vocals by Hollywood Undead and Beartooth. As an example of the latter, AFI released Caught as a digital single after the release of their latest album Bodies. Another common practice nowadays is to release deluxe editions of the albums only a year after the initial album release (while back in the day both standard and deluxe editions came out on the same day) and those deluxe editions usually include the songs that didn't make the standard edition of the album and might include the previously mentioned alternative versions of songs as well. An example is Skillet who just released the deluxe edition of their 2022 album Dominion. All those extra tracks can be considered b-sides.

     

    On 2/19/2023 at 9:48 PM, AJ93 said:

    but also, there are some finalized songs that didn't make it on time. i mean if you watch ATS documentary, there's like alot of deadline date (months) in each section and damn, that waass kinda like scary to rush and releasse the album before the deadline. thats just my theory.

    Right, they surely had some songs that were pretty far in the process, but didn't make the record or were left unfinished. I'll Be Gone, Castle Of Glass, Lies Greed Misery, Powerless and The Last Line (actually started for Minutes To Midnight) were all leftovers from A Thousand Suns. However, I don't think any of the songs that made the album are there just because they had to rush to meet a deadline. When it comes to A Thousand Suns, we have to keep in mind that it was a concept album, so anything the band thought that wouldn't fit the concept was left out.

  13. 7 hours ago, martinez said:

    So the question is, are they should to include the demo/alternate version of the song on MTM or ATS? Because from what he said it means they change something in the song before they added it to the game.

    Sure. That would be interesting. They could include demos of The Last Line and Not Alone on Minutes To Midnight too. I would be interested in hearing what they sounded like in 2007.

     

    On A Thousand Suns they could release the original long demo of Powerless and a demo of Castle Of Glass.

     

    8 hours ago, martinez said:

    I think it was just "Blackbirds (From The 8-Bit Rebellion! App)", without the "Non-Album Track"

    http://web.archive.org/web/20110320013455/http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/a-thousand-suns-deluxe-version/id389739922

     

    3 hours ago, AJ93 said:

    So, what do they call if they don't use A-Side and B-Side?

    A-Side and B-Side originated when singles were released in vinyl format. The A-Side (Side 1) of a single had the title song which was meant for radio airplay and the B-Side (Side 2) of the disc would have an extra song not deemed as important as the A-Side and not intended for airplay. There were also cases of double singles on which both sides were considered A-Sides, meaning both songs were intended for airplay. The only Linkin Park example I can think of is Pts.Of.Athrty / H! Vltg3.

     

    After the creation of CDs, the term B-Side started being used for any track in a single that's not the title track. In the One Step Closer single for instance, we have One Step Closer as the A-Side and My December and High Voltage as B-Sides. The "B-Side Rarities" disc on the 20th anniversary edition of Hybrid Theory consists of B-Sides from the singles of One Step Closer, Crawling, In The End, Papercut and Pts.Of.Athrty.

     

    In the current digital era, a B-Side is basically any song that wasn't released in the standard edition of an album (songs a band didn't consider important enough to be in the main album). Very often, B-Sides from the singles were also used as bonus tracks for studio albums (not as common now that singles became mainly 1-song digital releases). Back in the day it was common practice for labels to release albums at different dates in different countries with different tracklists (nowadays this still happens in Japan). Sometimes there were editions exclusive to certain stores as well (still happens in the US). The bonus tracks from all those different editions were usually the B-Sides from the singles, but they could also be tracks from compilations, soundtracks, songs previously released somewhere else or sometimes previously unreleased tracks (more common now with the deluxe editions of albums being released a full year after the standard edition). They might be cover songs, live songs, remixes or a song that didn't make any album. Since there were so many different editions of albums being released in different places, sometimes bands reused those B-Sides for multiple albums because a certain track hadn't been released in a certain place before. Linkin Park did this with the live version of One Step Closer (B-Side from the Faint single), releasing it as a bonus track for both Reanimation and Meteora.

     

    On A Thousand Suns we had the B-Side of The Catalyst single as a bonus track for Japan, the NoBraiN remix of The Catalyst (winner of the remix contest) as a bonus track for HMV and Blackbirds (from the 8-bit Rebellion! soundtrack) as a bonus track for iTunes. Because they're bonus tracks for A Thousand Suns and never officially associated with any other album, they're technically A Thousand Suns b-sides.

  14. 10 hours ago, leftshoe18 said:

    I don't know the full story for those songs so I can't say anything about them but Blackbirds was recorded and mixed during the Minutes to Midnight era. It originally released months before The Catalyst kicked off the A Thousand Suns era as a reward for completing the 8-bit Rebellion game. The only reason it ended up later releasing on a version of A Thousand Suns is because that's the album that had the nearest release date to 8-bit Rebellion. Blackbirds is 100 percent a Minutes to Midnight b-side. No part of it was worked on during the A Thousand Suns sessions.

    The reason it was released on A Thousand Suns is irrelevant. The fact remains that it was a bonus track for A Thousand Suns.

     

    "Use of this language has largely declined in the 21st century as the music industry has transitioned away from analog recordings towards digital formats without physical sides, such as CDs, downloads and streaming. Nevertheless, some artists and labels continue to employ the terms A-side and B-side metaphorically to describe the type of content a particular release features, with B-side sometimes representing a 'bonus' track or other material."

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A-side_and_B-side

     

    This MTV article used to have a video of Mike Shinoda talking about Blackbirds. Sadly it's not available anymore, but we have a transcription on Linkinpedia:

     

    "When you finish the game, you get access to 'Blackbirds' which is a brand new Linkin Park song that we basically finished specifically to this game. So it's exclusive to the game. It's not gonna be on an album, it's not gonna be on anything else."

     

    It was even listed as "Blackbirds (Non-Album Track From The 8-Bit Rebellion! App)" on the initial iTunes version of A Thousand Suns. Not "Minutes To Midnight B-Side" or "Minutes To Midnight Demo".

     

    On the upcoming Meteora 20th anniversary release we have two live tracks recorded in 2002 which is technically the Hybrid Theory era, but they are being released with Meteora because they were b-sides to the Somewhere I Belong single, a Meteora song, from 2003.

  15. 1 hour ago, leftshoe18 said:

    But the song was recorded during the Minutes to Midnight era. It's a b-side from MTM, not A Thousand Suns.

    If it was released as a bonus track on A Thousand Suns, it's a b-side from A Thousand Suns.

     

    Many bands reuse old songs, that's nothing new. Slipknot just released a song they wrote during The Gray Chapter era, Flyleaf's 3rd album New Horizons had a song called Broken Wings that dates back to one of their first demos that they recorded under another band name, She Loves Me Not by Papa Roach was written for Infest and released as a single from lovehatetragedy (Walking Through Barbed Wire from this album was another song they left out of Infest), AFI released songs from the Sing The Sorrow and Decemberunderground sessions as bonus tracks for Crash Love, Sheer Heart Attack by Queen was written for the 1974 album with the same name but only released in their 1977 album News Of The World, and there are many more examples. Those songs are always associated with the year / album cycle they were actually released. Why should it be different for Linkin Park?

  16. 1 hour ago, AJ93 said:

    I know What Are You Worth will not be part of OML20, because if you remember that "incident". the collaborator leaked the track, and Mike was kinda angry.

    This was Mike's theory and it has been debunked for some time now. What Are You Worth was burned to a CD and sent to the label in 2016 when they recorded it. The other song they did with Brian Howes (Ricochet) wasn't in the CD, so it never leaked. Someone (from the label, I assume) sold the CD with What Are You Worth online as well as multiple Linkin Park multitracks and instrumentals and the unreleased remix of Blackout by RAC. All those things surfaced at the same time, so it makes sense that it was all leaked by the same person.

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