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Hybrid1988

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  1. Not being a jerk at all, glad someone provided something to discuss!

     

    Yes, GATS being a heavier song and longer did play into it but keep in mind there's a radio edit of it and proper promotion is the key to ANY release, regardless of the format. Dropping something out of the blue really doesn't work unless you are incredibly popular or just don't care about the performance of it, which I guess in their defense they didn't really care with this album. KROQ wasn't ready for the single just like we were. I'm sure the radio edit wasn't ready because they just wanted it to be dropped, and the label wasn't really excited about promoting either.

     

    Well, Twitter and Facebook are pretty much some of the biggest social networks out there. Doing what they're doing is getting it out to the maximum amount of people, I don't think if they posted it on Google+, for example, that it would have that great of an affect on the performance. Plus, with their knowledge of how influential the fanbases are and the LPAmbassadors promotion, they're really doing everything they can to maximize the audience.

     

    True, it is speculation but as someone who makes music I can vouch for it being a very personal thing when wanting to release a song. Artists say that in general about their music. And with how personal the band has said this album is to them, I'm sure they have some emotional attachment to this record that'll make them want to properly do something with it. Plus, if they want the song to do well, they don't want to mess it up.

    Ahh, good points! I guess in the end (hehe) there's unique upsides and downsides to different forms of promo. At the end of the day, the music will speak for itself. Hopefully it's great. That'll be the best promo in itself

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    a) they did that (essentially) with GATS. Look what happened to album sales and single performance.

    B) Strategically speaking, it's a smart move, especially considering the band's last huge hit was four years ago. Teasing new music over a period of time will allow for many more people to see it and maximize the audience. Not everyone pays close attention to the band.

    c) LP just isn't the kind of band to drop things out of the blue when it comes to things like this, and as I mentioned before, look what happened when they did. They like the drama and excitement of a release - they've said this before. Look what's it's doing for the community, too - it's been more active in the last two days than it has been in nearly the entirety of 2016.

    d) It's been said again and again by the band members that this is a personal album to them. It's like, you wouldn't go out into the world after you have your first child and just through it into a crowded street. You appreciate the intimacy with him or her before you set them free. In many ways, that's what this album is like to the band, I bet. Something they've grown with for a long time that they need to give a proper send-off to.

     

    I'm gonna play devil's advocate here just for the hell of it.

     

    1. This probably had more to do with it being a metal influenced song more than the release strategy itself. I live in LA and I did not hear that song on the radio once, and kroq LOVES lp. They helped start their careers. Most alt-rock radio weren't going to touch that song with a 10 foot pole. The result might have been different if they dropped UIG instead.

     

    2. I would think maximizing the audience would require posting info to channels other than the ones hardcore fans follow. And truth be told, how big is the hardcore fan base now? You usually only see the same familiar people engaging in the community. From my personal experience, most people I talk to at LP shows (again, in LA) are usually just casual fans. The hardcore LPU crowd tend to be small and close knit. To continue with this thought, everyone I know who is a casual fan has no idea they are about to drop new music, let alone that they've been finishing up in the studio working on new material. Not to mention that these same people actually follow the bands social media accounts where the majority of the promo has taken place thus far.

     

    3. Cant argue this point. It's definitely sparked attention in the fans (our posts being a prime example)

     

    4. Aside from what the band members have personally stated, the rest is just speculation.

     

    Hopefully I didn't come off as confrontational here. Not my intention. Just bored and thought i'd offer some counter-points. At the end of the day, I don't work for the band and I didn't go to school for marketing so who cares about my take. I'm just another jerk-off on the internet. :P

  3. Zacky from avenged summed up my thoughts on the tired and Uncreative trend of dragging out releases to build hype.

     

    ""For us, it was about surprising our fans," Zacky told The National Student. "Because, for [the band's previous album] 'Hail To The King', we did the three-month roll-out and we could sense the boredom in our fans: 'Oh, AVENGED is trolling us. They're doing the campaign and doing scavenger hunts, just release the fucking songs already! We just wanna hear the album!' This time, we gave them nothing and then we gave them the album, like, 'Here you go. Make up your mind!'"

  4. Hype levels at an all time low. Been growing out of their music since THP. their output since 2012 has been too simplistic for me; no lasting appeal. HT, MTM, and ATS are all that I really care to go back to. I feel like they peaked with ATS. not one song since has matched the greatness of that album.

     

    I'll check out the new music for sure and give it a chance but my expectations are low. Sad. Guess my tastes have changed far too much to stay behind with them.

  5. I might be the only one who doesn't really mind this. The band doesn't change the set around enough in any capacity to warrant uploading every single show. Its obvious only a small minority of fans (in relation to those who attended the shows) took advantage of purchasing shows. Personally, I think the numerous flaws of their live playing tends to show up in the DSPs and they didn't sound too good anyway.

  6. It's somehow beyond me how they managed to shot that video in public without a single person recognizing Mike and finding out what the hell is going on.

    You'd be surprised. Most people in LA are focused on themselves while walking around. I've had people tell me numerous times that a celebrity walked by me and I never even noticed. I've been to movie premieres where I was standing right next to a celebrity and never recognized them. Hell, I was out on the sunset strip while the band was passing out flyers for the SSMF and not one person recognized them. Keep in mind that is a high foot traffic area. From what I've heard from people at UCLA at the time, nobody really recognized them on campus either. Also worth mentioning that there's always some kind of filming going on in that area. Unless you're familiar with anyone, it's hard to differentiate between a high profile shoot or some amateur film maker.

  7. Well... that was... different.

     

    What's up with those cameras there? Did Mike say something about a pro-shot of this concert?

    No mention of a pro shot but there were a ton of go pros on stage, a camera guy, and mark all filming. I'm guessing an lptv episode of sorts. A bunch of fans (including myself) were filmed talking about fort minor while in line so they were definitely getting tons of footage for something or other.

  8. Merch prices are psychotic. $35 for a t-shirt, Mike? Come on, man.

     

    Also, I bought the single through iTunes before I found out the site was live, so that's that. Oh well. (I also accidentally bought The Rising Tied when browsing through, so that'll be fun to refund.)

     

    I agree. I'm not sure who they are trying to market to with these "urban/street/hip/artsy/fashion-centric" merch items. I've never known any LP fans (let alone any music fan) that gave a shit what kind of shirt their design was printed on etc. It all seems kinda trendy and pretentious. Not digging the direction LP has been going with their merch since THP. Raised prices for items that other bands sell for less. I guess they can get away with it though because a ton of fans blindly buy their stuff without a second thought. As cool as the vinyl idea was, i'm gonna pass.

  9. It could very well have some significance, but it's just not an album release. Or maybe it was supposed to be before the music industry decided to change all release dates to Fridays instead of Tuesdays. Though, I do recall Astat saying that's been a concert visual for a few years. No idea about that, though.

     

    I just figured if anyone knew about it, it would be you guys lol. Couldn't find the search function on here so I just posted it. That's pretty impressive if someone can notice that such a small detail has been a visual element for a few years. I don't know how you guys stay on top of such minute details :P

  10. Oh and I see a lot of people taking Ryu's lated tweet seriously

    "I'm not performing on Conan June 22nd. Not sure who "Fort Minor " is?"

     

    I'm 100% sure he's just messing with people too. Ryu and Mike have been together a lot recently, if you see Ryu's Instagram too. I'm definitely sure Ryu will be at Conan too

    Surprised it took me this long to find someone mentioning this. You guys know how it goes every promo cycle, Mike just fucks with everyone because it gets people talking. Highly highly doubt he's getting rid of the Fort Minor brand. Stop over thinking it guys :)

  11. Just wanted to chime in and say that from what i've seen of the webcast, Ben did great. I prefer the way he played ALITS compared to Brad. Even though the volume was lower, the solo seemed much tighter. Bu that's just my musically uneducated opinion. First part of the set is killer too. A few changes down the line would really make it that much better.

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